Hi John, Yes, there are many people doing work on the Dutton line. We seem to be a huge bunch. There are cousins in New Zealand, New Guinea, Australia, and all over America as well as in England--all in varying stages of working backward. There are many places to visit in Cheshire and other people will likely tell you more about the churches, maps, Dutton Hall, Sherborne Hall, etc. There are several folks going to England this summer, so, you might want to go when others are going. > > What sources would you > > folks recommend for medieval genealogy studies in Britain to verify and > > augment some of the (dubious) information I get off the web? Also, are > > there any good maps of the area which would show me parishes, townships, > > and other geographical regions of a couple hundred years ago? Sir Peter Leycester, 1673, published "Leycester's Historical Antiquities." This is the definitive work on the Dutton line. The accepted scholarly source for Dutton genealogy is by George Ormerod who used Leycester's work in his "History of the County Palatine and City of Chester" (first published in London: 1819). The Helsby's edition (I think, 1972) is the source accepted by scholars today. Ormerod's book is out of print, it is in the Oversized and Rare Book collection at Ohio State and therefore not accessible to a working person. You can order a copy from the LDS on microfilm (I do not have the film #). Ormerod provided sources for Leycester's work; however, scholars today say that the Dutton line really needs to be done by a SCHOLAR using MODERN SOURCES. (It has been over 300 years since Leycester's work!!) Bits and pieces of genealogy, regarding wives and so forth, may be gleaned from the Complete Peerage (THE source for medieval genealogy). I have begun a project to redocument the medieval Dutton line with modern sources from English court records. While I am not a "genealogy scholar," I have received some guidance from Paul C. Reed, FASG, who is a highly respected medieval scholar. I have managed to redocument the Duttons of Dutton and part of the Duttons of Hatton with the Deputy Keepers Record. You can check out my work at http://www.genealogy.dutton.net. Information marked with a DKR is a modern source. Not all the data has been redocumented, so, be aware of where I put the source info. Eventually, I want to re-document all the data, but it is a BIG job. Do you want to help? Carole - ----------------------------- Curt Rowe wrote: > > You should probably receive a few replies on this one. The Dutton's can be > found in Leycester's Historical Antiquities of which I have made an online > copy on my web site: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~amcolan. Go to the > bottom of the First Dutton's page and you'll find a link to the document. > Also try the Dutton-L list as well. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: John L. Dodd [mailto:JohnLDodd@earthlink.net] > > Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2000 3:06 PM > > To: CHESHIRE-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: [CHS] ancient ancestors > > Greetings: > > > > I have just subscribed to this list in an attempt to obtain > > information about my British ancestors and verify other information I > > got off websources (Ancestry.com and FamilySearch.org). I am going to > > try and get over to England this summer on a genealogy themed trip and > > am trying to get as much data as possible beforehand. Any information > > anyone can give me concerning these folks would be greatly appreciated. > > I was wondering if anyone has done any work on these lines, if there are > > any current descendants around, and how far back anyone has traced the > > lines. Also, of there are any churchyards, etc. we should visit, that > > would be good to know. > > > > DUTTON, Maude, b. 1427 > > John b. 1403 > > Piers (Peter) b. 1367 > > > > SAVAGE, Margaret, b. 1403, of Clifton > > , John, b. 1370, who was married to Maude De > > SWYNNERTON, > > who was born 1365, Barrow, and whose line goes on > > back > > > > MASSEY, Joan, b. 1376 > > > > VENABLES, Dulcia, b. 1396, Kenderton > > father, Sir William, b. 1376, and whose line goes on back. -------------snip------------------ > > > > John L. Dodd > > Orange County, California, USA