--------- Begin forwarded message ---------- From: reedpcgen@aol.com (Reedpcgen) To: GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Fwd: My Family Tree] Re: Odard Dutton Date: 8 Dec 1998 10:57:16 GMT Message-ID: <19981208055716.04693.00004533@ng26.aol.com> References: <366CBDCB.1555@midohio.net> Dear Carole, You received my opinion that the identities of the fathers of Odard/Hudad of Dutton are fictitious. This was also the opinion of James Tait, one of the best Cheshire historians, who had Omrerod and other sources at his fingertips. To recap, the problem is that the story given in Ormerod's History of Cheshire and Dugdale's Monasticon Anglicanum, which is the source for the attribution of this Odard's siblings and parentage, is fabulous (this is clear from internal and external evidence). And there were many other Odards. So, I would point out that if you have accurately tied into the Medieval Dutton family of Cheshire, which traces back, somewhat tenuously, to this Odard, who appears in Domesday, you have done far better at tracing a direct male descent thnt over 90% of other people can (mine goes back five generations). So please don't be disappointed if records do not survive to trace Odard's origins on the Continent. He may well be from the Avranchine, but it is not likely he is the immediate child of a count. Dr. Katharine Keats-Rohan agrees that William FitzNigel, who had far more extensive properties in Cheshire, was not a member of the St. Savieur family. That connection would have been far more likely than the ones proposed for Odard. Please feel free to post dissenting views. pcr --------- End forwarded message ---------- ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]