Hi Doug et all, I'll answer your questions below in detail. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Doug Hall wrote: ------------------------------Snip--------------------------------------- > Now Dick Dutton reports having obtained a good professional photocopy of the > same chart while in London. That's also great news for us all. Dick found > his version at the Genealogists Society while in London. I suspect that > Dick's copy is basically the same as the one that Gail has, though his may > be a cleaner photocopy given the advances in that kind of equipment in > recent years. I don't have a copy of Gail's but from all indications it sounds as if it is either identical or her's was a photocopy of mine (the supposed original) before a few more additions were made to the bottom right hand side. --------------------------------Snip--------------------------------------- > I don't yet have Dick's copy but I do have a couple of comments after having > made a comparison between the one I have and the one Gail has. Does this mean you want a copy of mine? ---------------------------------Snip------------------------------------- > 1. Gail's copy has some additional names added at the bottom of the chart in > a different hand. They were evidently added later than the time when my > transcribed copy was made. My guess is that these were added not on the > original but on a copy that later became origin of Gail's copy. Thus, I > would guess that these names may not appear on the version that Dick Dutton > now has. (Dick - at the very bottom on the left hand side, do the the names > Catherine Annie and Victoria Margaret along with other information in an > obviously different handwriting? Yes, mine has all of the above. -------------------------------Snip---------------------------------------- > > 2. Gail's copy has some information that does not appear on my chart but > which does appear to be in the hand-writing of the > genealogist/author/artist. For example, on the bottom righthand side the > name Thomas Murthwaight Murray Dutton is listed on both versions. On my > version it simply says about his death "d. 1964". On Gail's copy it says "d. > 1964, Dec. 30, bur. at Thornton-le-Moor". > This additional information appears to be in the same handwriting as the > rest of the chart, but it is squeezed in using smaller characters. My > conclusion is that the author of this chart, probably P.H. Lawson himself, > had completed it sometime around 1964. Then the three transcribers made a > copy that was later photographed and became the origin of my copy. > Meanwhile Lawson continued to add a few things in 1965 and maybe a few years > after that. Then, a photocopy was made which became the origin of Gail's > version. Maybe Lawson continued to work on it after that. If so, Dick > Dutton's copy would reveal some additional information about the individuals > still living in the 1960s. Mine has all of the above plus two more generations of descendents of Thomas Murthwaight Murry Dutton done in the original hand-writing. ---------------------------------Snip------------------------------------ > 4. Because Dick's copy was found at the Genealogists Society in London we > may be able to track down information about the compiler, P. H. Lawson. If > he was a practicing professional genealogist, his files might also be > avialable at the Genealogists Society or they might have some record of > where they are. This is important. We have only this chart to connect John > Dutton the PA immigrant back into the family in Cheshire. We have no > original source for this particularly critical piece of information. > Lawson's material might provide an answer as to where/how he made this link. > While some sources are listed at the bottom of the chart, from my knowledge, > I can't identify one that covers this time period, so it may come from > "wills, marriage licenses,....private information" that ought to be tracked > down. Maybe Lawson is even alive and could provide the sources for at least > this one individual in the tree - or maybe he wrote a Dutton genealogy to go > along with the chart that is hiding in someone's library somewhere. Dick, > did you check on who Lawson might be at the Genealogists Society? No, I just ran out of time (I had a social engagement that last evening in London) getting the copy of the original chart which had to be taken by a volunteer and me to a commercial printer (which almost made me late for the engagement). There were a bunch of things which I either did not have time to finish or follow-up on - it was frustrating but I was happy that I got what I did. More info in later messages on some of the other things I found. If anyone plans to go there you need to dedicate about a week. They are, by the way, most knowledgeable (particularly the elderly lady in the basement who turned out to be a distant [very] cousin) and helpful. They also have a wealth of resource data. There is an hourly fee for doing research there - not much and they do accept credit cards. If anyone wishes to contact them or even better visit them their address is: Genealogists Society #14 Charterhouse Building Goswell Road City of London Phone 0171-251-8799 It is at the very end of a short alley. Possibly of interest to some, my wife & I met and had "traditional tea" with my 22nd cousin - John D. Wedgewood Pound whose DUTTON web page can be found at: http://www.Geocities.com/Heartland/3203/Dutton.html Let me tell you - traditional tea consists of a lot of food. The three of us made pigs of ourselves and left food on the table. That wiped out dinner for Jean and me. I will get John Pound to join our List. That's it for now. If anyone has questions feel free to ask. If you want a copy of the chart ask now while you can get the $10 copy. Individual copies later will cost $15 and cause me extra trips to the printer and mail center. Dick Dutton =========================================================================== Richard A. Dutton 325 Beal Parkway Ft. Walton Beach, FL 32548-3956 rad@emcst.com Phone: 850-862-3327 FAX: 850-864-1444 Researching my family tree! Trunk: DUTTON Major branches: ALLEN, BARTLETT, CUTLER, DOGGETT, DUNTEN, DUNTON, JENSON, LAKE, METCALF, PARTRIDGE, REYNOLDS, RICHARDS, SAWYER, SMITH, TRACY, TURNER. Minor branches: ADAMS, ALDEN, BALL, BLACK, BLANCHARD, BREWSTER, BRIMHALL, CARY, COLBURN, HATCH, HOPKINS, HYDE, KIDDER, PERKINS, WARNER, WILLIAMS. Smaller Limbs: ALGER, ANDERSON, CLARK, DAVIS, FRENCH, FULLER, HALL, HARRIS, JOHNSON, KNAPP, McMILLAN, MERRICK, MILLER, MOORE, NELSON PARKER, TUTTLE - And many more.