Carole, I hope that the picture was taken after the fire in Windsor Castle! If not, I would think that the helmet is a lump of slag now, as St. Georges Hall was one of the most severely damaged parts of the castle. I would think that having looked at pages 652 and 653 of Ormerod's History of Cheshire, that Odard or Hudard's sword may possibly be at Gawsworth near Macclesfield. It was probably handed down through the GERARD's, Elinours eldest son was the third Lord Gerard. Their pedigree is on page 653. It comes to a bloody end (or almost the end) with a duel between James, Duke of Hamilton (who was married to Elizabeth GERARD)and Charles, Lord Mohun heir to Gawsworth, by marriage to Charlotte (his 1st wife), daughter and heiress of Elizabeth's elder sister Charlotte. The duel took place on 15 Nov 1712, the result was a draw as they both died! Elizabeth LAWRENCE, Charles Lord Mohun's widow, married Colonel Edward GRIFFITHS, their daughter, Anne married William STANHOPE and he bought Gawsworth from the trustee's of his wifes marriage settlement. That is as far as it goes. I assume that you now have the pages which refer to the DUTTON's from Ormerod (pages 642 to 654) either from Dick or Phyllis? If not, let me know. Regards, Nick > >This is a link to the page with the picture of "The Armourer conserving >the helmet of the Hatton armour of1585 in preparation for its >installation in St George's Hall, Windsor Castle Dickie Arbiter, © Royal >Collection" Nicolas Blackhurst >From the Roman Fortress of 'Deva.' Web Site: http://freespace.virgin.net/nicolas.blackhurst/homepage.htm e-mail: nicolas.blackhurst@virgin.net