Hi to all, Regarding our ancestor, Odard, I have received several sources of information to be checked out--as we have sources listing two different fathers for Odard, it is necessary to check this out and eliminate one. 1) From Robert Helmerichs, Ph.D., who has a professional interest in the Cotentin area, who has written to me, <All the evidence that we have about Saint-Sauveur, thankfully, has been summarized by Florence Delacampagne, "Seigneurs, fiefs et mottes du Cotentin (Xe-Xlle siècles): Étude historique et topographique," _Archéologie médiévale_ 12 (1982): 175-207.> OSU library does not have volume 12--all the others, but not this one. Is there anyone out there who reads French better than I do? Is there anyone who can get a copy of this journal? Is there anyone interested in solving this problem, besides me? Maybe we could help each other out? 2) From the FRENCH-LIST, my posting motivated Jean-François a genealogist in Tournai, Belgium, to post my message to a medieval newsgroup. From that posting, I received three articles to check out regarding Odards as sheriffs in England. In "The Genealogist," New Series. I have checked out two of these articles and he is not our Odard because a) the year and the place was wrong "Odard of Carlisle, living 1130" and adoption of the family surname "de Hodleme". The second article writes about, "Odard the Sheriff and Edulf his father." The year is wrong, "King Athelstan in A.D. 926, 'expelled Aldred the son of Eadulf from the royal town which is called in the English tongue Eebbanbirig. [i.e., Bamborough]'" "It seems therefore not unlikely that there was before the Norman conquest a family of hereditory wardens of Bamborough." William F. Carter also talks breifly about English and Norse naming customs. This is a short article and if anyone else wants it, I can type it to you. Also, this Odard or Aldred would have been 160 years old in 1086. 3) The third reference is still to be checked out. 4) Still waiting (impatiently, I might add) to hear from Mike Ward about the Odard nobles in Normandy and his reference to a collection of documents from Normandy (not England) of the Norman nobility, some before and some after 1066. Finally, I note that someone had sent to Phyllis, Omerod's pages regarding our family and I ask if they would be kind enough to also send them to me? Thank you in advance, Carole