Hello again Sam, Let me address several of your comments below. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ShooseyQ@aol.com wrote: > Hello Dutton Listers; > It seems I've stirred up some controversy. I hope that's a good sign... Yes, you did stir up the List a bit and Yes, that's a good sign. There are a bunch of very good genealogists dedicated to the research of the DUTTON surname on our List. We have known all along that there are some questions on our heritage and have been working hard to try to answer them - many times resulting only in frustration - and you just jumped right in the middle of our most important question, which is: Who was really the original DUTTON immigrant who came to Mass. in 1630 as part of the Winthrup Fleet, who were his parents, and where did he come from. We have some supposed answers to these questions but we don't really trust (believe?) them. -------------------------------------Snip---------------------------------------- > For the first 8 generations of my ancestors (to 1746), leading toward John > DUTTON of 1596 fame, I have done most of the research myself, because I am > currently writing a book on my maternal grandfather's ancestors. I have > visited the New England, USA, several times and have researched public and > library records in little towns all along the way. You sound like a perfect candidate to be a subscriber to the DUTTON List - Welcome aboard! ------------------------------Snip------------------------------------- > Before 1746. the remaining > 26 generations I have on my Dutton ancestors I have downloaded from Ancestral > File at the LDS Family History Center in Salt Lake City, Utah, USA. Ancestral > File, simply put, is a massive database of all the genealogical records of > persons who have submitted them to same). I believe everyone on our List is quite familiar with the LDS Ancestral File. If you would like to see some of the work done by some of our members take a look at the following two web sites: The first is the proud possession of Carole Dutton Malisiak, my 13th cousin: http://www.genealogy.dutton.net/gen3_anglonorm.htm and the second is a monumental work be Curt Rowe, my 13th cousin once removed: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~amcolan/Dutton/duttons_first.html -------------------------------------Snip---------------------------------------------- > Since 1987 I have been trying to > track down proof that each individual record is accurate or inaccurate, > whichever the case may be. As you're probably aware, the LDS Ancestral File > does have many errors. Yes indeed, we are painfully aware of the errors in the Ancestral File and that is the crux of many of our problems - trying to either prove or definitively disprove (which is just as hard) some of the critical data to our specific heritage that is running all over the internet and ending up in the Ancestral File where it is becoming "Gospel." -------------------------------------Snip------------------------------------- > If you are interested in receiving a gedcom of all the > Duttons I have in my database, which will show you how I trace my lineage to > John DUTTON 1596- I would be happy to E-mail it to you I would LOVE to receive a copy of your gedcom - my favorite form of exchanging data. And I would be happy to send you one in exchange. ------------------------------------Snip---------------------------------------- > (it also includes 22 > generations of the ancestry of John DUTTON who married Mary DARLINGTON, all > the way back to a Niel II De St. SAUVEUR, born about 1000 AD of Normandy, > France), but I don't think it is appropriate for submission to the list. It's > too big (1,641 names), and not everyone will be interested in it. I agree that 1641 names of data would be far too many for submission to the list as text within a message and the rules of the List prohibit submissions of ANY attachments. I disagree that anyone on the list would not be interested in any of it. Most, if not all of us, have data going back further than 1000 AD but we are having troubles proving much of that too. ------------------------------------Snip------------------------------------------------- > The gedcom > I can E-mail to you takes a genealogical computer program capable of handling > gedcom files generated from PAF 3.0 If you would like one, please let me > know and I will send it to you. I use the genealogy program REUNION for the Macintosh which can handle any gedcom in either version 4.x or 5.x. If your program allows you to choose the "Character Set" it should be set to "Macintosh" and it is definitely best to ZIP the file before attachment. I assume you use an IBM compatible PC? Since you use AOL for your ISP we need to keep the files less than about 1.5 MB. AOL con be awfully snotty about the size of files you can send & receive and if the attachment is not zipperd AOL usually corrupts it, at leest to Mac users. -------------------------------Snip----------------------------------------------- > Oh, I hope I'm not opening Pandora's Box... > I cannot vouch for any of the information I have in my data base except the > first six to eight generations before me. Sorry... 26 generations back in > time (before 1746) have not yet been proven by my research. 1746 is just my > page marker... I still have a LOT of research to do on the Dutton names. You're not opening Pandora's box. We're all in the same situation. I always make the same qualifications. I have primary documentation to prove my direct lineage back only as far as my 7G grandfather Thomas b.abt 1619 m. 1647 Susannah (PALMER?) b.abt 1626. We ALL still have a LOT of research to do on this surname. Welcome to the greatest "Treasure Hunt in History" Dick Dutton Researching my family tree! Trunk: DUTTON Major branches: ALLEN, BARTLETT, CUTLER, DOGGETT, DUNTEN, DUNTON, JENSON, LAKE, METCALF, PALMER, PARTRIDGE, REYNOLDS, RICHARDS, SAWYER, SMITH, TRACY, TURNER, WARD, WEDGWOOD. Minor branches: ADAMS, ALDEN, BALL, BLACK, BLANCHARD, BREWSTER, BRIMHALL, CARY, COLBURN, HATCH, HOPKINS, HYDE, KIDDER, PERKINS, WARNER, WILLIAMS. Smaller Limbs: ALGER, ANDERSON, CLARK, DAVIS, FRENCH, FULLER, HALL, HARRIS, JOHNSON, KNAPP, McMILLAN, MERRICK, MILLER, MOORE, NELSON PARKER, TUTTLE - And many more.