Background. Cope (p. 12) cites Burke's Landed Gentry, p 1508 (another discredited source) as saying, "These six brothers accompanied their unlce, Hugh Lupus, into England, in the train of William the Conqueror, their great uncle; and on the establishment of the Norman power had various estates and honors conferred upon them. Nigel was created Baron of Halton and constable of Cheshire; Geffry was Lord of Stopfort; Odard, Lord of Dutton; Edard, Lord of Haselwell [i.e. Heswall] Horswin, Lord of Shrigley; and Wlofaith [sic], Lord of Halton [sic]." Cope (p.13) reports that Lyson's Magna Britannia, v.II, "Odard, son of Yvron, viscount of Constantine,...." The "experts" discredit our ancient ancestors because (among other reasons) they have found no external evidence of them and say that they are not even in the Domesday Book! However, I have found some evidence and I am not EVEN close to being an expert. Raines, F. R. Rev, "Historical Notices of the Diocese of Chester," vol. 1 in "Remains Historical & Literary Connected with the Palatine Counties of Lancaster and Chester." Cheshire, Printed for the Chetham Society, 1865. "Although unnoticed in the Domesday Survey, Stockport had been a Military Station of importance from the time of the Romans to the Norman Conquest. The Parish was very considerable and the Church had, doubtless, been destroyed by the Invaders at that epoch. In 1173 the Castle of Stockport was held by Geoffry de Costentyn against Henry II, but it does not appear whether the Earl or Geoffry was then the possessor. It was afterwards the property of the Despensers, Earls of Winchester, and under them it was held by the Stockports, Sir Robert de Stockport occurring in a deed of the time of Richard the First, witnessed by John as Earl of Moreton." (p 299-300). Constantine or Costentyn or Contentin or Cotentin? Does anybody know who the fitzAlured family is? Our family frequently witnesses charters by them. Lastly, fitzHodard had a brother named Gilbert (de Leme?)!!! (Keats-Rohan, "Domesday People", p307 and "Memorials of the Duttons", p160). Surprise! Carole