Hi Everyone, On 16 Jun, just before I went on vacation to Europe I posted a message to this List entitled “Is MA John on the chart???” It was an intellectual question based on some uncany similarities with one of the branches found on the chart and the data that some of us have in our data bases on the ancestors of our MA John. At that time I had never heard of "Supplement to Collin's Peerage of England" While I was away, on the 3rd of Jul, Doug Hall posted a well thought out and documented message that, in his words, “… eliminates this possibility.” (I have both of these messages on file if anyone wants copies). The research that I was able to do at the Genealogists Society in London confirms Doug’s conclusion and reasoning 100%. And, unfortunately, in the limited amount of time I had for research, I was not able to find anything that might throw any light on the real lineage or birth of MA John - leaving him, still, a complete mystery. Noone is more disappointed than I. My worst fear is the possibility that the “uncany similarities” found between the chart and my data base is the result of some dunderhead, or worse, unscrupulous individual and the lineage as we believe we know it from MA John to the ancient DUTTONs-of-Dutton and of all of us that descend from him is just a pipe dream. On the plus side, we know for sure there was a John DUTTON in MA “before the court” in the 1630’s - and he had to come from somewhere and had to have parents! All we have to do is find them! Comments and suggestions are solicited and welcome. Dick Dutton Researching my family tree! Trunk: DUTTON Major branches: ALLEN, BARTLETT, CUTLER, DOGGETT, DUNTEN, DUNTON, JENSON, LAKE, METCALF, PARTRIDGE, REYNOLDS, RICHARDS, SAWYER, SMITH, TRACY, TURNER. Minor branches: ADAMS, ALDEN, BALL, BLACK, BLANCHARD, BREWSTER, BRIMHALL, CARY, COLBURN, HATCH, HOPKINS, HYDE, KIDDER, PERKINS, WARNER, WILLIAMS. Smaller Limbs: ALGER, ANDERSON, CLARK, DAVIS, FRENCH, FULLER, HALL, HARRIS, JOHNSON, KNAPP, McMILLAN, MERRICK, MILLER, MOORE, NELSON PARKER, TUTTLE - And many more.