My Kingsman, born 1759, had a son Samuel, but he wasn't born until 1794. Also, this Kingsman moved to Frederick County in 1787. I suppose the witness Samuel could have been a brother to Kingsman. Naming boys after their uncle's wasn't an unusual practice. Curt > -----Original Message----- > From: Carole Dutton Malisiak [mailto:malisiak@midohio.net] > Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2000 5:36 AM > To: DUTTON-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: My Quaker Ancestors > > > Hi Curt, Bob, and everyone else, > > 3) Kingsman was the fourth child of John and was a member of the > Chichester/Upland Friends (which I think was set off from the > Concord Monthly > Meeting (MM)). > Although trained for the religious profession, he was disowned > for marriage out > of unity (dis mou) 5 mo 4 1737 (Cope:p.43). This means that he > could not take > part in church affairs, but he could still attend meeting and was > not outcast > socially. Anne joined the meeting in 1748. Couples who married > out of unity > often "came to their senses" and requested to be reinstated about > ten years > later (per Jerry Richmond, Quaker authority). > Question: Was Kingsman reinstated as a member? Did they raise > their children > in the Quaker faith? Who are their other children? > > 4) David, son of Kingsman, was born abt 1756 in PA. In 1777 he > married Hannah > Rogers. > Question: Since he was born after his mother became a Friend, is his birth > recorded in the Meeting minutes? Are there other children beside > David and > Francis? Was David a member of the Chichester meeting? What is > David's actual > birthdate? > > New stuff. ------------------- > David and his wife Hannah were received as members of the > Hopewell Friends on 11 Jul 1803. [Note: membership was not > transferred from a > previous MM) His daughters, Susanna (22 yrs old) and Mary (20 > yrs old), were > received as members of the Hopewell Friends on 12 Jul 1807. On > 12 May 1811, > Mary (Dutton) Larry was disowned for marrying contrary to > discipline (dis mcd). > On 9 May 1822, Susanna (Dutton) Cowarden was dis for mcd. On 1 Jun 1831, > David Dutton was granted a certificate from Hopewell MM to Short > Creek MM in > Ohio. David died 13 Oct 1836 and Hannah died 14 Nov 1837 both > were bu as Friends > at Harrisville, OH. (Will further check this out this weekend) > > Also, on 21 Oct 1772, Samuel Dutton was recorded as a witness at > the marriage of > Thomas Ellis and Margaret Rees in Berkeley County, VA. > Questions: WHO IS SAMUEL DUTTON? He is not a son of David as he > is not listed > in his will! Is he a son of Kingsman? > > There is no other Dutton information in the minutes of the Hopewell MM. > > I am indexing the Short Creek MM minutes, births, marriages, and > deaths and > putting them online--address below. I am visiting this Quaker > meeting this > weekend. And am waiting on information regarding Kingsman. > Berkeley co was > part of Frederick co, VA, early on. > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~ohquakers/ caroole. oops--Carike, no Carole