Dear Darrel i am sorry but i just forwarded this to the Dutton list from Gen-medieval. my Duttons are from Accomac Co VA and i do not have the first clue about this family Sincerely RAY On Tue, 05 Jan 1999 19:16:19 -0600 "Darrell A. Martin" <darrellm@sprynet.com> writes: >At 10:49 AM 01/04/1999 EST, Ray Montgomery (scruffynerfherdr@juno.com) >forwarded: > >>Robert J. O'Hara wrote: >> >>> The Massachusetts immigrant Thomas DUTTON was apparently born abt >1621 >>> in Cheshire, England, and died 22 Jan 1697 in Billerica, >Massachusetts. >>> He m Susannah PALMER in 1647 in Billerica. In starting to >investigate >>> this ancestor I have found a number websites (for example >>> http://www.web-ster.com/miked/html/d0002/g0000166.htm#I1933) that >trace >>> Thomas Dutton's ancestry back into the Medieval period through the >>> "Duttons of Dutton" in Cheshire. Does anyone here happen to be >familiar >>> with this line, and can anyone tell me if this is solid or just >some >>> family historian's fancy from the 19th century? (For all I know >the >>> Mass immigrant may in fact not be linked to the Dutton family of >>> Cheshire at all; that may be where the imagination came in). >Pointers >>> to recent sources (confirming or debunking) will be welcome. Many >>> thanks. > >[snip] > >Dear Ray: > >The line of the Massachusetts Duttons is often traced back to the >Duttons >of Cheshire, through a line that (depending on where you get it) >starts >with Thomas Dutton who m. Susannah Palmer, and goes back through his >father >John whose father was Sir Ralph. None of these connections is proved. >PLEASE PROVE ME WRONG! <grin> > >I would dearly love any solid evidence that Thomas' wife's maiden name >was >Palmer. I do have a Palmer will, reported in NEHGR, in which a Palmer >refers to a relative named Susanna Dutten. (I don't have my sources at >hand, and I may be misreporting the will's spelling "Dutten," but the >substance is correct.) Since the Duttons of Reading, Massachusetts, >are in >the ancestry of Joseph Smith the Mormon Prophet, one would think that >if >the evidence were available it would have been reported. In fact, the >latest version of the Personal Ancestral File for the Prophet >specifically >*removes* the surname Palmer from Thomas Dutton's spouse, as >undocumented. >This was only after a lively battle between a member of the PAF >staff(?) >and a persistent, but mistaken, submitter, according to the notes that >accompany Susannah's PAF record. The record is now "locked" against >further >correction without a review. By the way, I too have seen Susannah >reported >to have married Thomas in Billerica in 1647. That is not possible. The >town >was not charted by the Massachusetts General Court until almost a >decade >later, in 1655. Thomas removed from Reading to Woburn in circa 1658, >and >from Woburn to Billerica in 1669. It is possible that he married >Susannah >in Lynn, but that is conjecture on my part--nothing more. > >Thomas' father John is supposed by some to have had a wife, Mary >Neeld/Nield, but not only was this Mary most likely married to the >John >Dutton who settled in Pennsylvania, but I recently read evidence that >she >married a Neeld/Nield *after* the death of her husband John Dutton. >Again, >my sources are not readily at hand, but the burden of proof is on >making >the connection. > >I have Thomas' birth circa 1619, based on Edward F. Johnson, compiler, >"Woburn Records of Births, Deaths, and Marriages 1640-1873," (Woburn: >Andrews, Cutler, & Co., 1890), Part III Marriages, pg. 284 in a >footnote >under surname Tottingham, "In the suit of Capt. Johnson vs. Ensign >John >Carter, Dec. 1658 ... witnesses were ... Thomas Dutton [aged] about 39 >..." >citing "County Court Records, Vol. I., page 161. Dec. 1658." I have >his >death at 22 January 1686/1687, after Cutter. > >I would give miscellaneous body parts to be shown primary evidence of >the >ancestry of Thomas Dutton of Reading, Woburn, and Billerica, >Massachusetts >in the late 17th Century. I have been looking for a quarter century, >and >have UNlearned more than I have proved. Hopefully this mournful trend >can >be reversed. > >Darrell > >Darrell A. Martin >formerly of the Dutton District in Springfield, Vermont >currently in exile in Addison, Illinois > > darrellm@sprynet.com > ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]