Dutton list, I was just nosing around today on http://genforum.fammilytreemaker.com and thought I would try a global search for some names. Odard was one I tried. I found Odard I de Logis (born about 1099). This was from a lineage for a Kirkbride family name. Odard's son was Adam I of Wigton. I have no clue where that or Logis might or be. I didn't realize it was such a popular name. They're everywhere. Ron