Hello all, The following info is probably not new to you, but I thought that I'd pass it on anyway. Houts, Elisabeth M. C. van. The "Gesta Normannorum Ducum of Wm. of Jumièges, Ord. Vitalis, and Robert of Torigni," Vol.2, Oxford University Press, 1995. First Lineage: 1) Duke Richard I 2) Robert, Count of Avranches, illegetimate (p 126) 3) Richard, Count of Avranches, planned a rebellion against the Duke and was exiled bef 1026 (p. 126). Second Lineage 1) Ansfred, the Dane 2) Thurston Goz, Count of Hiémois, abt 1017 to 1025 and again from 1031 to 1035. and Lord of Toutainville and Creully. He led a rebellion at Falaise against Duke William abt 1043 and left the country as an exile (p 103). 3) Richard Goz, vicompte of Avranches about 1055 or 1056. He died abt 1081 to 1087. He loyally served Duke William and was able to reconcile the duke and his father and he acquired many more possessions than his father had lost (p 102-3). 4) Hugh, Count of Avranches, Earl of Chester (p 208) died 27 Jul 1101. 5) Richard Earl of Chester = Matilda d/o Adela (d/o King Wm.) & Stephen of Blois died in the White Ship disaster (p 276). This second lineage if also reported by David C. Douglas. Carole