Hello out there in DUTTON cyberland! I have great news. Naw, not about Odard! I have just squashed Col. Hansen's last argument for inventing a first wife for John Dutton of Overton (bp 1625) by finding the record of the marriage certificate of Thomas Dutton and Mary Renny of Manchester. Their marriage license is dated 16 Sept 1624 and was granted within the Archdeaconry of Chester in the Diocese of Chester, printed for "The Record Society (for the Publication of Original Documents) relating to Lancashire and Cheshire,Vol. III, 1624-1632," 1909, pg. 12. Thomas' son, John, was born 9 months, 10 days after his marriage. Is this a shotgun wedding, a premature birth, or a successful wedding night?!!??? Also, the records that I keep digging up support Lawson's chart pretty good. Do you think so, too? I will write latter asking for help regarding primary records for US born folks. I just got back from the library and have to get my email to read the latest slander that D. Spencer Hines slings my way!!! Don't worry, I'm in good company, DSH slanders everybody, even people like dcr. Later, Carole