I appreciate the report from Su Dutton Rodgers regard the town of Dutton, Madison County, Arkansas. Thanks. I think I have most or all of the 1850 census records for Dutton in Arkansas, if somebody does not have them and wants them checked. I also have a microfiche printout of an IGI sheet, not too old. These sometimes give leads to follow up on, or other searchers to contact. So, if you need that checked, ask me. A Lewis E (Ed) Daniel at internet led@arkmola.net has a file on Duttons linking back to John Dutton and Mary Darlington. He had put that on WFT 22 Tree 820, but I do not see anything regarding Arkansas. He may not have Arkansas roots. He lives in Rogers, Arkansas. I have the index for the 1860 Arkansas Census, but did not work out the records: DUTON, JAS P. 739 WS (county) DUTON MOSES 750 WS DUTTON DAVID 148 IN DUTTON JACKSON 109 PU The 1850 index had 14 head-of-family names

Date: Fri, 03 Sep 1999 22:00:59 -0500 To: malisiak@midohio.net From: "Darrell A. Martin" <darrellm@sprynet.com> Subject: Re: Ancient Ancestors, keep 'em coming! At 06:03 PM 09/03/1999 -0400, you wrote: >Hello Duttons: > >I have more information about connections to Richard de Gand (later >written as Gaunt), but I have been timid in sending you guys all the >info I have, as I think that I am only one of two or three people >interested in this era. As Darrell has pointed out, others are trying >to get back to the ocean and many are trying to cross the ocean. Should >I keep sending this info? [snip] >Carole Hi, Carole: Another two cents worth from me. I have no provable connection to England through any Dutton immigrant, so the work on the oldest Dutton lines doesn't apply to me. YET. Someday, dagnabbit, I AM going to find evidence for where Thomas and/or John Dutton of Reading, Mass., came from, and when I do--why should I duplicate all the work you've done!?!?!?!? Even if I'm so stubborn as to insist on looking it all up for myself, why not at least follow the trail you have blazed? I'm not so stubborn as to be stupid, I hope! Keep this stuff coming, as far as I'm concerned, for as long as you want to. And THANKS. Darrell Darrell A. Martin formerly of the Dutton District, Springfield, Vermont currently in exile in Addison, Illinois darrellm@sprynet.com

*******Many, many stars! I've learned so much about my Dutton family thanks to Carole (and ALL of you!) You are ALL stars!******* Lynn in Fayetteville, Ohio --- Phyllis Ryerse <phyllis@webnet.com> wrote: > Reply-to: <phyllis@webnet.com> > From: "Phyllis Ryerse" <phyllis@webnet.com> > Subject: RE: the Dutton family--Long & Short!! > Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 09:22:38 -0400 > To: DUTTON-L@rootsweb.com > > Carole.....you've come a long way baby!! > > Wasn't it about a year or so ago when you stumbled > onto the Dutton list..... > and started looking at all this fascinating family > history?? > And look at you now......you've created a WONderful > Dutton web page.... and > become something of a Medieval expert when it comes > to Duttons. Amazing! > You get the big gold star for the day!! > > I too....REALLY enjoy all your rummaging about in > the ancient records for > bits and pieces of data and proof. It's something I > never would/could > do.....and you do it with such pizzazz! > Thank you....on behalf of all the Duttons....for > your efforts. We're > learning fascinating things we never would have > known without your > persistence!! > > ...and I say again........a POX on those so-called > experts! > Go girl, GO!!! > > ;-) phyllis in atlanta > > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com

Hello Duttons: I have more information about connections to Richard de Gand (later written as Gaunt), but I have been timid in sending you guys all the info I have, as I think that I am only one of two or three people interested in this era. As Darrell has pointed out, others are trying to get back to the ocean and many are trying to cross the ocean. Should I keep sending this info? Btw, I have re-documented the PA John Dutton line (with primary sources) back to the 16th century with Hugh Dutton of Woodhouses--I have only five more generations to go--we might lose our link to the gentry as identified by Lawson, but maybe not. I am still working on it. OSU library's air conditioning doesn't work. I had planned on going there every day in July, but the temperature in the building was well over 100 degrees; thus, I stayed home. When the weather gets cooler, I'll be on my way, again. Here is a deja.com link to a lineage posted to gen-med or soc.genealogy.medieval that links one of our grandmothers back to King Henry II. Interesting and also documented by Ed Mann (although some of his sources are questionable! and missing!). http://x21.deja.com/=dnc/getdoc.xp?AN=507803100.1&CONTEXT=936393000.790298657&hitnum=2 Carole

Carole.....you've come a long way baby!! Wasn't it about a year or so ago when you stumbled onto the Dutton list..... and started looking at all this fascinating family history?? And look at you now......you've created a WONderful Dutton web page.... and become something of a Medieval expert when it comes to Duttons. Amazing! You get the big gold star for the day!! I too....REALLY enjoy all your rummaging about in the ancient records for bits and pieces of data and proof. It's something I never would/could do.....and you do it with such pizzazz! Thank you....on behalf of all the Duttons....for your efforts. We're learning fascinating things we never would have known without your persistence!! ...and I say again........a POX on those so-called experts! Go girl, GO!!! ;-) phyllis in atlanta

>At 11:23 PM 09/02/1999 -0400, jcjv ( jcjv@shawneelink.com ) wrote: and Carole Dutton Malisiak ( malisiak@midohio.net ) replied 9/2 at 23:23: Hi, Duttons: And now I put my two cents in. I'm afraid I'm going to be picky, and something of a stick in the mud. But this stuff is FUN as well as FRUSTRATING, even for me when I'm being too picky <grin>. >> Carole, I devour all the information i receive regarding our esteemed >> family. So you know when the Duttons first entered Southern Illinois? [snip] >> Also what is the _earliest_ date recorded by our family? Was it >> first in England or earlier as in Viking Days???My family(Carolyn my >> wife age 30 Jonathan my son age 11 and Victoria my daughter age 4--with >> one more Dutton on the way Feb of 2000) all crowd around the screen to >> read these e-mails. Perhaps some day we can converse. Take care and God >> Bless!! [snip] >Hi jcjv, > >Congrats on your millennial baby! Well, actually, one of the later babies of the millenium <grin>. (I warned you in advance I was a picky stick-in-the-mud.) But congrats anyway! You could always extend the Dutton tree a wee bit more and go for a "real" millenium baby--you'll just barely have time! <just kidding, Carolyn!!!> >These are good questions; however, I do not have the answers. There are >quite a few folks on the Dutton list and maybe one of them would be able >to help you out with Illinois and Arkansas Duttons. [snip] Carole is doing all of us a great service by digging up contemporary or near-contemporary records and publishing them. She is especially to be commended for presenting the evidence to us, allowing us to draw our own conclusions about the connections of Hodard (Odard, Udard), the earliest to bear the name "Dutton" that we know of. That being said, you have a similar problem on your hands to the one I have, only about two hundred years later. You want to know where your Dutton line came from when it arrived in Illinois; I want to know where mine came from when it arrived in Massachusetts with Governor Winthrop in 1630. Until one can get back to the Duttons in England, all the work in the world on the 11th Century won't accomplish much, in the more formal sense, toward extending one's own pedigree. Many of us on the list are descended from the Dutton immigrants of Reading, Massachusetts Bay Colony, in the first half of the 17th Century. My descent from Thomas Dutton of Reading is very well documented; the shakiest part of the line (actually two Dutton lines for me) is the part where it leaves Massachusetts for Vermont in the 1750's and 1760's, and even that is pretty solid. The secondary sources are good, I just haven't seen as many primary records as I would like. But Thomas is reported as being the son of John, maybe or maybe not. And it is not at all certain that John is the Mr. Dutton mentioned by Gov. Winthrop on the flyleaf of his journal, although it is likely enough. Thomas' children are established, I would say, and from him to later it is smooth sailing, "relatively speaking," except for the sticky subject of his wife's maiden name (it is often reported as "Palmer," but there is NO evidence for that which I have seen). But John's paternity? Hoo, BOY! There are only scraps and hints of clues about his line back. Since this Dutton branch is in the direct line of Joseph Smith, the founding father of the Mormon church, you would expect it to have been well researched, but the latest version of their PAF CDs has John, son of Sir Ralph, son of John. The elder of these two Johns has been combined with John Dutton of Pennsylvania (of about the same period as "Massachusetts John," give or take), giving him children born over nearly 100 years, making him his own grandfather, and worse (if that's possible). I would give miscellaneous body parts for credible evidence for two generations back in the ancestry of Thomas Dutton of Reading, Mass., who was born about 1619, probably in England. You, by the way, are faced with about an even chance that when you do find your Dutton family on its way west to Illinois, it will turn out to have been descended from either "Pennsylvania John" Dutton or "Massachusetts John." Pennsylvania John has, as I understand it, a much better link across the Atlantic than the Massachusetts branch. Others on the list would know better than I. For you, the current problem is getting TO the Atlantic, not getting ACROSS it. >Regarding the early Duttons and the earliest recorded date from our >family. There is no easy, short answer. > The professional genealogists would say that the earliest recorded >Dutton is Odard who is listed in the Domesday Book, 1086. You can read >about Odard on my website-- >http://genealogy.dutton.net/gen_perspect/odard.htm [snip] >The earliest Duttons believed that they were from Normandy >and were cousins to the Conqueror, but 1000 years later we cannot find >the paper trail to prove it (and the paper trail may no longer even >exist). You'll just have to condense that somehow for your >grandfather. Sorry, this is so long. > >Carole Carole's summary is about the most accurate statement you can get today about the ancestry of Odard/Hodard/Udard "of Dutton". However: even with the emphatically UN- solved problem of Thomas ?son of John ????son of Sir Ralph on my hands; I *still* "claim" all those Vikings, and Irish kings, and the Scottish king who was murdered by Macbeth, and Anglo-Saxon invaders of Roman Britain, as my ancestors. Without apology! (But WITH a disclaimer, if I put it in print.) And I suggest you do the same, and tell your kids all the good stories, and keep looking for the links that take you back "PROVABLY". Which is what this grand, frustrating, hobby is all about anyway. We all come from Adam by way of Noah, the only thing left is to show by convincing evidence just how that happened to go in our own cases. <big grin> Darrell Darrell A. Martin formerly of the Dutton District, Springfield, Vermont currently in exile in Addison, Illinois darrellm@sprynet.com

JcJv:� The little town of Dutton, Madison County, Arkansas was named for the Dutton Merchantile Co which started up around 1896 when the Railroad first made its way thru NW Arkansas. The proprietor of that merchantile was George Melvin Dutton, b. 4 mar 1864 in Goshen, Washington Co., Ark, s/o John Wesley Dutton, s/o the Rev. Moses P. Dutton, b. 1816 in Scott Co., Va.� George M. and John Wesley were both Methodist ministers, although it appears George M. did not go into the ministrey full time until after his son, Emmett Melvin, b. 1886 took over the merchantile company.� Emmett and his wife are the only "real" Duttons buried in the little Dutton Cemetery, in Dutton, Arkansas. The Rev. Moses was a brother to my 3ggrandfather, James Cass, Sr. b. abt 1808 in Scott Co., Va.� They were the sons of John and Susannah Dutton, grandsons of Jeremiah Dutton, b. abt 1845, found after 1773 in Greenville Co., S.C.� Jeremiah and wife Sarah had two known sons, Samuel, b. abt 1773� and my 4ggrandfather, John, b. abt 1775, both in Greenville Co. S.C. There are some reasons that point to Jeremiah being the son of William Dutton, b. Pa. in 1710, s/o of Edward and Gwin Williams Dutton.� We have not found sufficient proof to date, however, to make that claim. This line of Duttons were not connected with any of the Duttons of Illinois except thru the possible connection with William....however, there is no reason to believe that William went to Illinois either. Hopes this enlightens...:)� Sue

jcjv wrote mailto:jcjv@shawneelink.com: > > Carole, I devour all the information i receive regarding our esteemed > family. So you know when the Duttons first entered Southern Illinois? > All I know is that in the mid to late 1800's a circuit riding preacher > by the name of John or James Dutton came to southeastern Illinois and > helped charter two of the areas oldest General Baptist churches(one > named Duttons Chapel). I am hoping to eventually put all this info onto > a great family tree and present it to my grandfather for his 80th > birhtday.Also what is the _earliest_ date recorded by our family? Was it > first in England or earlier as in Viking Days???My family(Carolyn my > wife age 30 Jonathan my son age 11 and Victoria my daughter age 4--with > one more Dutton on the way Feb of 2000) all crowd around the screen to > read these e-mails. Perhaps some day we can converse. Take care and God > Bless!! ------snip---------- .ps have any ideas about the town of Dutton Arkansas??? _______________________ Hi jcjv, Congrats on your millennial baby! These are good questions; however, I do not have the answers. There are quite a few folks on the Dutton list and maybe one of them would be able to help you out with Illinois and Arkansas Duttons. I would suggest posting a note to the list to see if anybody knows of your Duttons and the Illinois circuit preacher. mailto:DUTTON-L@rootsweb.com Regarding the early Duttons and the earliest recorded date from our family. There is no easy, short answer. The professional genealogists would say that the earliest recorded Dutton is Odard who is listed in the Domesday Book, 1086. You can read about Odard on my website-- http://genealogy.dutton.net/gen_perspect/odard.htm >From Paul C. Reed, highly regarded professional genealogist whom I also respect, I have learned that J. Horace Round, published a work (I think in 1909) which reported that the Dutton historical data regarding Odard's lineage in Normandy was fantasy. This was based upon the lack of evidence corroborating Dugdale's Domesticon Anglicanum (i.e., lack of additional external evidence beside Dugdale) and based upon internal evidence (Round decided that the names of Odard and his brothers were Old English and; thus, were not Norman at all). He also pointed out that there was no person "Ivo, Viscount of the Cotentin," and that these brothers were not even in the Domesday Book. To make a long story short, the early "experts" have cut our lineage off, all the newer "expert" genealogists accept that cut without question, and no one looks into whether Round's arguments are solid or not. To me, this is very poor scholarship on the part of all the genealogists--both old and new--with the exception of Dr. Katherine S. B. Keats-Rohan, Director for the Unit for Prosopographical Research, Linacre College, Oxford, and Dr. Elisabeth van Houts. On the other hand, I accept what Dugdale has written and I search for evidence. I go to the library and photocopy every piece of early, pirmary evidence that I can find about the Duttons. AND I find stuff (like, the email I posted yesterday about Geoffrey de Costentyn). Keats-Rohan in her newest book, "Domesday People," 1999, has listed Odard as a Norman and has given us a brother for his son, Hugh, named Gilbert (*I think* it is Gilbert de Lyme). I talked to an expert in etymology who told me the names of Odard and brothers are cognate with Continential German names. I have also read some old charters from Normandy which have an Odard in it, but no genealogical links were written (he might, in fact, be Odard of Vernon, but that's just a guess!). I might never find Odard's father after all the French burned the manuscripts in the Cotentin during the Revolution and we bombed the heck out of the region during WWII. I have a source for what is left of this early information, but I can't get the journal--very frustrating. I'm sure that this is more than what you expected, but there IS no easy answer. There is data going back to Normandy as some of the early Duttons claim it, but the experts deny it and I am still learning how to find it!! Some of it is in British Museum Records--fat chance I'll ever see that!! The earliest Duttons believed that they were from Normandy and were cousins to the Conqueror, but 1000 years later we cannot find the paper trail to prove it (and the paper trail may no longer even exist). You'll just have to condense that somehow for your grandfather. Sorry, this is so long. Carole

Background. Cope (p. 12) cites Burke's Landed Gentry, p 1508 (another discredited source) as saying, "These six brothers accompanied their unlce, Hugh Lupus, into England, in the train of William the Conqueror, their great uncle; and on the establishment of the Norman power had various estates and honors conferred upon them. Nigel was created Baron of Halton and constable of Cheshire; Geffry was Lord of Stopfort; Odard, Lord of Dutton; Edard, Lord of Haselwell [i.e. Heswall] Horswin, Lord of Shrigley; and Wlofaith [sic], Lord of Halton [sic]." Cope (p.13) reports that Lyson's Magna Britannia, v.II, "Odard, son of Yvron, viscount of Constantine,...." The "experts" discredit our ancient ancestors because (among other reasons) they have found no external evidence of them and say that they are not even in the Domesday Book! However, I have found some evidence and I am not EVEN close to being an expert. Raines, F. R. Rev, "Historical Notices of the Diocese of Chester," vol. 1 in "Remains Historical & Literary Connected with the Palatine Counties of Lancaster and Chester." Cheshire, Printed for the Chetham Society, 1865. "Although unnoticed in the Domesday Survey, Stockport had been a Military Station of importance from the time of the Romans to the Norman Conquest. The Parish was very considerable and the Church had, doubtless, been destroyed by the Invaders at that epoch. In 1173 the Castle of Stockport was held by Geoffry de Costentyn against Henry II, but it does not appear whether the Earl or Geoffry was then the possessor. It was afterwards the property of the Despensers, Earls of Winchester, and under them it was held by the Stockports, Sir Robert de Stockport occurring in a deed of the time of Richard the First, witnessed by John as Earl of Moreton." (p 299-300). Constantine or Costentyn or Contentin or Cotentin? Does anybody know who the fitzAlured family is? Our family frequently witnesses charters by them. Lastly, fitzHodard had a brother named Gilbert (de Leme?)!!! (Keats-Rohan, "Domesday People", p307 and "Memorials of the Duttons", p160). Surprise! Carole

FILM 444785, 1850 PENNSYLVANIA, Philadelphia City (part), North, New Market & Dock Wards, page 245 North Ward, Dwelling 478: Lydia Dutton age 47 born Pennsylvania as was all her family Hannah age 24, Henry 18 Machinist, Sidney 16, Rachel 14, Emma 12, Martha 9. Page 505, Dock Ward, 25th Sept 1850, Dwelling 569, (possibly rooming house under William Whelan and family), Sarah Dutton age 35 born IRELAND, Thomas Brady age 37 Physician b. PA, and others. FILM 44478, 1850 PENNSYLVANIA, city of Philadelphia (part); Upper Deleware Ward, page 151, 5th Sept 1850, Dwelling 814; John Dutton age 23, bookkeeper born Ireland. Sorry, I have no other connections for these.

Hello Dick, Also, there is a Milton Wagy who is also a very close cousin of mine, but he has not yet made his connections known to us as he is a very busy librarian, (Hi Milt!) but he did report to me, >>> "The last Dutton was Francis R. Dutton b. 1801. I am descended through his daughter Hannah Isabel Dutton." >>> This b. 1801 would make Francis R #125 in Cope. Hanna would be #268. She married Francis Peverly and removed to Iowa in 1863. There must be a generation between Milt and Hanna because the last names are not the same? Finally, to catch you all up to speed, I am in communication with Ernest Hatton. We are both very excited about our connections and trying to get the lines straight. He has recently returned from a visit to England and has promised to send me (and others in his family), around Christmas, a collection of info and photos from his trip. He was allowed to take photos of Christopher Hatton's tomb and took pictures of a statue of Lord Christopher in full armor on his steed at Windsor Castle. I would like to put the pictures on my home page so that all can see. I can hardly wait, but I do feel like I am scattered in too many directions. You can see the "impaled" Dutton/Hatton armour at: http://genealogy.dutton.net/genphoto/dutton%20manor6.htm . It is on the right side of page. Carole

I have a document dictated by Samuel Dutton that says his grandfather Kingsman Dutton married Ruth Watson and had three children: Jacob, Kingsman, and Joseph. The marriage is documented: 27 Dec 1756, Old Swedes Church, Wilmington, Delaware. This would be a second marriage for Kingsman. Some of the dates I have conflict with Cope, however. Just my two cents Curt Rowe > -----Original Message----- > From: Dick Dutton [mailto:rad@emcst.com] > Sent: Saturday, August 28, 1999 12:19 PM > To: DUTTON-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: Relationships???? > > > Hi Carole, > As I understand your data below, Kingsman has 2 sons, David & > Francis R. If > that is correct: > 1. Susan Ann NEWBERRY is not a blood relative at all. > 2. Her spouse, George Franklin DUTTON, is your 2nd cousin, three times > removed (2C3R). > 3. Their child, Robert H. DUTTON is your 3C2R. > 4. His daughter, Bernice, is your 4C1R. > 5. Should Bernice have a child it would be your 5th cousin. > > Now for the important part! Have you been holding out on me (us)? My data > shows Kingsman with two sons also - David & Francis (no middle > initial). My > data also agrees with yours below for the descendants of David. > However, my > Francis is married to two wives, Hannah TALBOT & Lydia BOOTH and > neither has > a child Franklin A. DUTTON. I've never heard of a Mary Elizabeth FLORENCE. > How about filling me in? > > 13C Dick > ======================================================= > > Carole Dutton Malisiak wrote: > > > Hi Dick, > > > > Since you know more about this than I do, can you answer these > > questions? > > > > In the list below you will notice that George Dutton #4 married a Susan > > Newberry. My number is 7. Am I related to the Newberrys? Susan would > > be my great aunt? Six times removed? > > > > 1. Kingsman Dutton > > 2. David Dutton + Hanna Rogers > > 3. Robert Dutton = Abigail Matson > > 4. Nehemiah Dutton + Phoebe Huntsman > > 5. Murden Dutton + Minnie DeVault > > 6. Jesse Dutton + Anna Hasman > > 7. Me-Carole Dutton > > > > 2, Francis R. Dutton + Catherine Davis > > 3. Franklin A. Dutton + Mary Elizabeth Florence > > 4.George Franklin Dutton + Susan Ann < > Newberry > > > 5. Robert H. Dutton + Ruth Majors > > 6. Bernice Dutton > > > > Carole >

Hi Dick, Cousin Jim Dutton found me through my web page. I encouraged him to join and post to the list and to make himself known to all and especially to you, with your huge data base. He said that he would, but he has had computer problems. Are you here, Jim??? Anyway, he is a further expansion of the PA Dutton line. Jim is a direct descendent of the Newberry family with proven connections to Normandy. I knew I was not a blood relative, but I wanted to know how I related to the Newberrys. (I am not too good at nonlinear connections and still confused about being <removed>). More below. ___________________ Dick Dutton wrote: > > Hi Carole, ---------snip----------- > Now for the important part! Have you been holding out on me (us)? My data > shows Kingsman with two sons also - David & Francis (no middle initial). My > data also agrees with yours below for the descendants of David. However, my > Francis is married to two wives, Hannah TALBOT & Lydia BOOTH and neither has > a child Franklin A. DUTTON. I've never heard of a Mary Elizabeth FLORENCE. > How about filling me in? This is corrected listing for Jim below from the information that he mailed to me (Numbers are from Cope). Is this accurate now, Jim? I hope so. I didn't know you were younger than me! ---------------snip------------- > > 1. Kingsman Dutton (10) > > 2. David Dutton (49) + Hanna Rogers (Will) > > 3. Robert Dutton (119) = Abigail Matson (Will) > > 4. Nehemiah Dutton (238) + Phoebe Huntsman (Will) > > 5. Murden Dutton + Minnie DeVault (Will) > > 6. Jesse Dutton + Anna Hasman > > 7. Me-Carole Dutton > > > > 3. Francis R. Dutton (125) + Catherine Davis > > 4. Franklin A. Dutton (263)+ Mary Elizabeth Florence > > 5.George Franklin Dutton (564) + Susan Ann < Newberry > > > 6. Robert H. Dutton + Ruth Majors > > 7. Bernice Dutton + James Delancy Koontz 8. James Delancy Koontz (aka Jim Dutton) Carole

Hello All, I recently received an email from a woman asking me about our Coat of Arms. She is from Australia and has the same Arms and has traced her family back to Sir Ralph of Sherborne who has > statue in Sherborne Chapel from what I'm currently reading...and he died in 1742/3. > This has much raised my curiosity about armor and I have been reading about it on the website below and in the MEMORIALS book. It also makes me wonder if she has any information which might relate to the MA Duttons. Now, I am beginning to think that Dick Dutton is descended from the Sherborne branch of the family. This is based on the fact that he says that the shield he made available to us was handed down through generations and that the motto is Latin. In the pictures that Collin sent to us of the stained glass windows in Dutton Hall, there is a shield which used "impaling" with the Dutton Arms on the right and the Hatton arms on the left as Sir Piers was a Dutton of Hatton and was descended from Hugh Dutton who married Petronel d/h of Ralph Vernon of Hatton. Also, the Sherborne Duttons used Latin Mottos and the other Duttons used French mottoes. Thus, if Dick inherited this shield from long ago, the evidence suggests that he is descended from the Sherborne branch. Is this "old information" to everyone else and just "new" to me? In a book "Memorials of the Duttons," pg viii, "The Cloughton Duttons [co York], who were descended from the younger brother of William Dutton of Chester, father of Thomas Dutton of Sherborne,used the present family motto of the Sherborne branch of "Servabo fidem;" while the Duttons of Dutton and of Warburton appear to have used French mottoes." http://www.digiserve.com/heraldry/lecture1.htm Carole

Hi Carole, As I understand your data below, Kingsman has 2 sons, David & Francis R. If that is correct: 1. Susan Ann NEWBERRY is not a blood relative at all. 2. Her spouse, George Franklin DUTTON, is your 2nd cousin, three times removed (2C3R). 3. Their child, Robert H. DUTTON is your 3C2R. 4. His daughter, Bernice, is your 4C1R. 5. Should Bernice have a child it would be your 5th cousin. Now for the important part! Have you been holding out on me (us)? My data shows Kingsman with two sons also - David & Francis (no middle initial). My data also agrees with yours below for the descendants of David. However, my Francis is married to two wives, Hannah TALBOT & Lydia BOOTH and neither has a child Franklin A. DUTTON. I've never heard of a Mary Elizabeth FLORENCE. How about filling me in? 13C Dick ======================================================= Carole Dutton Malisiak wrote: > Hi Dick, > > Since you know more about this than I do, can you answer these > questions? > > In the list below you will notice that George Dutton #4 married a Susan > Newberry. My number is 7. Am I related to the Newberrys? Susan would > be my great aunt? Six times removed? > > 1. Kingsman Dutton > 2. David Dutton + Hanna Rogers > 3. Robert Dutton = Abigail Matson > 4. Nehemiah Dutton + Phoebe Huntsman > 5. Murden Dutton + Minnie DeVault > 6. Jesse Dutton + Anna Hasman > 7. Me-Carole Dutton > > 2, Francis R. Dutton + Catherine Davis > 3. Franklin A. Dutton + Mary Elizabeth Florence > 4.George Franklin Dutton + Susan Ann < Newberry > > 5. Robert H. Dutton + Ruth Majors > 6. Bernice Dutton > > Carole

Hi Lynn, My research records show that Asa's birth was, and still is, recorded in the Vital Statistics and Records-Middlesex,Vt. I do not have a copy of that recording but a check of those statistics might show parentage. Dick Dutton ======================================================== Lynn Murray wrote: > Moses Dutton (b.16 Oct 1810) was the younger brother > to my ggggrandfather, Solomon Dutton. They were born > in Belgrade, Kennebec Co., Maine and came to Brown > Co., Ohio by covered wagon with their family around > 1815. Moses' household is listed in the 1840 Brown > Co., Ohio census: Males 20& under 30 yrs-1, males > under 5yrs-2, females 20 & under 30 yrs-1, females 5 & > under 10 yrs-1, females under 5 yrs-1. His wife was > Rebecca Corliss (b. Brown Co., Ohio). They were > married 8 Dec 1831 in Brown Co., both at the age of > 21. > Moses' father was Asa Dutton of Cavendish, VT and > later Belgrade, Maine. We are trying to prove Asa's > relationship as son to Ephraim Dutton and Susanna > Bixby of Cavendish, Vermont. Anybody have anything? Thanks!

Hi Sandi, While there is bound to be some kind of family relationship between Josiah (b.abt 1791, NY) and Jedediah (b.1773, MA, d. Bliss, Wyoming Co., NY) I have no idea what it is. These are the notes I have for Jedediah: Lived for awhile in Shoreham, Addison Co., VT. Beer's History of Wyoming County, 1880 (relating to history of Town of Eagle) P.183. Jedediah Dutton, another Vermonter, in 1831 settled on lot 15." (This would be also northeast of "Bliss village, just to the east of lot 24). Jedediah & Parmilla were living in the household of their son Ebenezer in Eagle, Wyoming Co., NY in 1850 census. These are the notes I have for Josiah: !CENSUS 1860 Iowa, Delaware County, Delhi Twp., 25 July 1860 page 155/395 dwg 1168 family 1077; Josiah DUTTON age 69 farmer born New York; John age 33, Horace age 30, Mary Jane age 25, Phil (Philetus) male age 23, and female Francenia age 20--all born New York. FHL 803318. These are the notes I have for Jed's son Ebenezer: Beer's History of Wyoming County, 1880 (relating to history of Town of Eagle) P.183 "Ebenezer Dutton also came in 1821 from Vermont with a horse team, and settled on lot 24. The Bakers, Grovers, Duttons and Hamiltons were all connected by marriage." (Lot 24, Range 2 is northwest of present Bliss Village, in what may be known as the "Hillside" district. In 1866, one G. Dutton was resident there). Page 188 - "Ebenezer Dutton was also a soldier of 1812." Josiah is about the right age to be the son of Jed but if the data I do have is correct then that would be impossible since Josiah was supposedly born abt 1791 in NY and Jed did not enter the state until 1831. Plus, I have 9 children for Jed & Parmilla, the eldest, Orrin, b. abt 1797 and his brother Ebenezer b. 1798, VT. All of the children, for which I have vital statistics, were b. VT. That is about the best I can do for them. They both are still in my "Not yet connected DUTTONs" file. I would dearly love to be able to connect Jed to our main family tree. Dick Dutton Researching my family tree! Trunk: DUTTON Major branches: ALLEN, BARTLETT, CUTLER, DOGGETT, DUNTEN, DUNTON, JENSON, LAKE, METCALF, PALMER, PARTRIDGE,REYNOLDS, RICHARDS, SAWYER, SMITH, TRACY,TURNER, WEDGWOOD. Minor branches: ADAMS, ALDEN, BALL, BLACK, BLANCHARD, BREWSTER, BRIMHALL, CARY, COLBURN, HATCH, HOPKINS, HYDE, KIDDER, PERKINS, WARNER, WILLIAMS. Smaller Limbs: ALGER, ANDERSON, CLARK, DAVIS, FRENCH, FULLER, HALL, HARRIS, JOHNSON, KNAPP, McMILLAN, MERRICK, MILLER, MOORE, NELSON PARKER, TUTTLE - And many more. ================================== Sandi Pope wrote: is Josiah any relation to Jedidiah..born 1773 d. in Bliss, Wy co., NY Jeds son David had son George Henry who moved to Gravity, Taylor Co., IA....Fort Walton Beach is a really neat place was there last Dec., son stationed at Hurlbert AFB...SAn

aredutton@juno.com wrote: > > 1860 CENSUS Iowa, Deleware County, Union Twp., post office Union, > 13 Aug 1860, page 222/468: FHL film 803318: > George Dutton age 26, elizabeth 24, both born Ohio. Harrison, > age 1 born Ohio. > > 1850 Census OHIO, Hanson Dutton has a son George age 16. This is > the closest match of some 18 George Duttons. This one is George Henry, > born Ohio. CONTACT: e-MAIL from Mary ellen Kelchner. > I have large file on Hanson Dutton and his descendants. > > 1860 CENSUS IOWA, Deleware County, Delhi Twp., 25 July 1860, > page 155, dwg 1168. > Josiah Dutton age 69 farmer born New York, John age 33, > Horace age 30, Mary Jane 25, Phil (Philetus) male age 23, and > female Francenia age 20--all born New York. FHL film 803318. Thanks so very much for the info. Here is the Josiah S. Dutton I was hoping it was: [Brøderbund Family Archive #314, Ed. 1, Census Index: U.S. Selected Counties, 1820, Date of Import: 17 Sep 1996, Internal Ref. #1.314.1.1730.43] Individual: Dutton, Josiah S. County/State: Sussex Co., DE Location: Broadkill Hundred Year: 1828 [Brøderbund Family Archive #315, Ed. 1, Census Index: U.S. Selected Counties, 1830, Date of Import: 15 Sep 1996, Internal Ref. #1.315.1.2734.38] Individual: Dutton, Josiah S. County/State: Sussex Co., DE Location: Broadkill Hundred Page #: 033 Year: 1830 Josiah S. Dutton 1 M 10-15 1 M 20-30 1 F 30-40 [Brøderbund Family Archive #318, Ed. 1, Census Index: U.S. Selected States/Counties, 1860, Date of Import: Jun 22, 1996, Internal Ref. #1.318.1.10602.162] Individual: Dutton, Josiah County/State: Delaware Co., IA Location: Delhi Twp Page #: 395 Year: 1860 (have not reviewed) Here is the George B. Dutton, I was hoping it was: [Brøderbund Family Archive #318, Ed. 1, Census Index: U.S. Selected States/Counties, 1860, Date of Import: Jun 22, 1996, Internal Ref. #1.318.1.10601.88] Individual: Dutton, George County/State: Delaware Co., IA Location: Union Twp Page #: 468 Year: 1860 The Josiah S. and George B. Dutton I am looking for should have been the sons of Jesse Dutton who died in Marion Co., OH., but came from Delaware. 29 Jun 1835. Marion Memories Newsletter, Vol 15, May 1992, No. 2, pg 14. Will Record Book 1, 2, and Part 3, copied from Microfilm Roll 496, Marion Public Library, by Maxine Marshall. Date filed: 29 Jun 1835. Jesse Dutton. (NOTE: Executor of Jesse Dutton's estate was Washington Armstrong. As per an abstract of this will as accomplished by Maxine Marshall, 1067 Richmond Ave., Marion Ohio 43302, this will contains the following: Marion Co., OH., Wills (books 1, 2, and part 3), page 33, filed on 29 Jun 1835, written on or about 20 Dec 1834 per witnesses. Heirs: wife, Unice. Sons, Manlon(?) (probably Manlove), Jesse, Verdine, Josiah S., George B. Dau., Amelia Wilson. Child of dau, Polly Messick, deceased. Sarah Ann Penelope Petit, my present wife's granddaughter - the bed & bedding which are now called hers in this house. Wits., James H. Godman & George Hathaway.) Looks like these are probably not the right ones. Now I wonder where they went? Johnita

Hi Johnita, I find the data below in my "Not yet connected DUTTONs" file. It is all I have on Josiah. I can't find anything on George B. Dick Dutton ================================================== "Johnita P. Malone" wrote: > Would anyone have info concerning a Josiah S. and George B. Dutton, > living in 1860 in Delaware Co., IA.? > > -- > Johnita P. Malone > jmalone@ix.netcom.com > AOL Instant Messenger: jpmalone55 ================================================= Name: Josiah DUTTON1 ————————————————————————————————————————————— Birth: abt 1791 NY Unmarried: ————————————————————————————————————————————— Children ————————————————————————————————————————————— 1 M: John DUTTON1 Birth: abt 1827 NY ————————————————————————————————————————————— 2 M: Horace DUTTON1 Birth: abt 1830 NY ————————————————————————————————————————————— 3 F: Mary Jane DUTTON1 Birth: abt 1835 NY ————————————————————————————————————————————— 4 M: Phil DUTTON1 Birth: abt 1837 NY ————————————————————————————————————————————— 5 F: Francenia DUTTON1 Birth: abt 1840 NY Notes for Josiah DUTTON !CENSUS 1860 Iowa, Deleware County, Delhi Twp., 25 July 1860 page 155/395 dwg 1168 family 1077; Josiah DUTTON age 69 farmer born New York; John age 33, Horace age 30, Mary Jane age 25, Phil (Philetus) male age 23, and female Francenia age 20--all born New York. FHL 803318. Sources 1. This data received as part of a gedcom received from Edward Dutton "Edward and Arlene Dutton" <areduton@coffey.com> 1/13/99. ————————————————————————————————————————————— ————————————————————————————————————————————— Please report corrections or additions to: Richard A. Dutton 325 Beal Parkway Ft. Walton Beach, FL 32548-3956 850-862-3327 FAX 850-864-1444 E-mail rad@emcst.com

1860 CENSUS Iowa, Deleware County, Union Twp., post office Union, 13 Aug 1860, page 222/468: FHL film 803318: George Dutton age 26, elizabeth 24, both born Ohio. Harrison, age 1 born Ohio. 1850 Census OHIO, Hanson Dutton has a son George age 16. This is the closest match of some 18 George Duttons. This one is George Henry, born Ohio. CONTACT: e-MAIL from Mary ellen Kelchner. I have large file on Hanson Dutton and his descendants. 1860 CENSUS IOWA, Deleware County, Delhi Twp., 25 July 1860, page 155, dwg 1168. Josiah Dutton age 69 farmer born New York, John age 33, Horace age 30, Mary Jane 25, Phil (Philetus) male age 23, and female Francenia age 20--all born New York. FHL film 803318.