At 03:33 PM 09/06/1999 -0500, I wrote: >Hi, Duttons, Duntons, and others: > > I have on occasion mentioned the only source I have encountered that might > support a connection between Susannah(ca.1626-1684), wife of Thomas Dutton > (ca.1619-1686/7), with any Palmer. It is in the last line of Barbara > Palmer's will, proved 10 June 1651, below. I have also provided one other > will, that of her husband, for additional family relationships. > > Please note that I do *NOT* claim that this is any kind of proof that "our" > Susannah Dutton was born a Palmer. In fact, her will can, as easily as not, > be read to make the mentioned Susannah a part of Barbara Palmer's birth > family (possibly Combe), and not a Palmer at all. [snip] Hi, everybody: In reviewing my own last message, I failed to make explicit that the "Susanna Dutten" in Barbara Palmer's will: 1. May not even have lived in New England. 2. Is not connected with any specific husband. 3. May conceivably have been *born* a Dutton. Darrell Darrell A. Martin formerly of the Dutton District, Springfield, Vermont currently in exile in Addison, Illinois darrellm@sprynet.com

Hi, Duttons, Duntons, and others: I have on occasion mentioned the only source I have encountered that might support a connection between Susannah(ca.1626-1684), wife of Thomas Dutton (ca.1619-1686/7), with any Palmer. It is in the last line of Barbara Palmer's will, proved 10 June 1651, below. I have also provided one other will, that of her husband, for additional family relationships. Please note that I do *NOT* claim that this is any kind of proof that "our" Susannah Dutton was born a Palmer. In fact, her will can, as easily as not, be read to make the mentioned Susannah a part of Barbara Palmer's birth family (possibly Combe), and not a Palmer at all. This e-mail may serve more to show the paucity of the evidence than anything else, but in any case I offer the documents as published. --------------- Source: "Genealogical Gleanings in England: Abstracts of Wills Relating to Early American Families, with Genealogical Notes and Pedigrees Constructed from the Wills and from Other Records", by Henry F. Waters, A.M. Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., 1981 reprint of the 1907 original. pg. 301 "WILLIAM PALMER of London Esquire, 23 March 1635 (sealed and published 6 April 1636) with a codicil dated 12 September 1636, proved 27 September 1636. My body to be buried in the parish church of St. Mary Aldermanbury, in London, where I now dwell. All my personal estate shall be (in respect I am a citizen and freeman of the City of London) divided into three equal parts, according to the ancient custom of the same city, whereof one part I give unto Barbara Palmer, my wellbeloved wife, as due unto her by the said custom. Another third I give unto my three sons, Archdale, William and John, to be divided equally amongst them, according to the said laudable custom. And the other third part thereof, commonly called the Testator's third part, being devisable by me according to the custom of the same city, I do dispose of as followeth. (Then follow sundry bequests, among which) To my sister Mrs. Mary Palmer the late wife of my brother Mr. Robert Palmer, to my brother John Palmer, to! my cousin Thomas Palmer of Marston and his brother Robert Palmer, to my cousin Mr. George Clarke, to my Kinsman Thomas Cooke of Salte in the co. of Stafford and his sister Katherine Holte and his sister Frances Backhouse, to my cousinn Walter Sedgley, for a divinity lecture or sermon in the Chapel of Marston where I was born, to my son John, at the age of twenty one. My cousin Mr. George Clerke and my son Archdale Palmer to be executors. In the codicil he mentions 'our minister Mr. Doctor Stanton,' cousin Bydolphe and his wife, cousin William Palmer and his wife, cousin Williams and his wife, cousin Mr. Richard Archdale and his wife, cousin Gardner, the company of Haberdashers, the poor in St. Bartholomew's Hospital, 'whereof I am a Governor,' and others. Pile, 100." [There follows a discussion of St. Mary Aldermanbury, and of certain family connections not directly related to the point at hand.] "BARBARA PALMER of Onelepe in the co. of Leicester, widow, 13 September 1650, proved 10 June 1651. It is my earnest desire that the younger children of my sons Archdale Palmer Esq. and Sir William Palmer, Knight, shall have those moneys paid them which I have given them by their said fathers. To my son John Palmer a messuage in or near Page Green in the parish of Tottenham, Middlesex (and other tenements). To my cousin Sarah Willett, wife of James Willett clerk, to John Sare, son of Archdale Sare, at twenty one, to my cousin John Combe's wife, to my cousin Mary Ditchfield, to my cousin Susanna Dutten. Other bequests and legacies. Grey, 126" --------------- Darrell Darrell A. Martin formerly of the Dutton District, Springfield, Vermont currently in exile in Addison, Illinois darrellm@sprynet.com

still a confused mess! Have any of you ever checked the parish records for Gloucestershire? the wills? the Recognizance Rolls? They are probably available at the LDS. That is where I received a copy of the Welsh recognizance rolls for Cheshire and Lancashire which contained a tremendous amount of Dutton data (i.e., The Deputy Keepers of the Public Records). Carole _________________ Darrell A. Martin wrote: > > Hi, everybody: > > I looked up "Massachusetts John Dutton" on the LDS site yesterday. It's at ------------snip---------- > The results were interesting. ------------snip---------- > Husband: > John Dutton, AFN: 9J83-MW > Christened 1596 Apr 19 Frodsham, Cheshire > Born 1598 Oct 5 Sherborne, Gloucestershire > [Baptized before being conceived.] > Married ca1620 Dutton, Cheshire > Died 1693 May 4 Reading, Massachusetts > Buried 1676? Frodsham, Cheshire > [At least they put a question mark by the date. But > I really don't think they shipped bodies back....] ------------snip----------

Hi, everybody: I looked up "Massachusetts John Dutton" on the LDS site yesterday. It's at www.familysearch.org The results were interesting. As I have reported earlier, the ancestry of Thomas Dutton of Reading, Massachusetts (born about 1619) is a bit of a mess in the LDS records, even though Thomas is a direct ancestor of Joseph Smith, founder of the Mormon church. However, even though Thomas is still claimed as the son of "Massachusetts John" (which is the traditional link, but unproved), at least MA John is no longer his own grandfather, which was the case about two years ago when I first looked at Thomas' ancestry in the Personal Ancestral File. In what follows, "AFN" refers to the LDS "Ancestral File Number". My comments are in brackets. I would *love* for anyone to be able to shed some light on this family, or even on any one or more of its members. --------------- Husband: John Dutton, AFN: 9J83-MW Christened 1596 Apr 19 Frodsham, Cheshire Born 1598 Oct 5 Sherborne, Gloucestershire [Baptized before being conceived.] Married ca1620 Dutton, Cheshire Died 1693 May 4 Reading, Massachusetts Buried 1676? Frodsham, Cheshire [At least they put a question mark by the date. But I really don't think they shipped bodies back....] Wife: Mary Nuld, AFN: FVQQ-RH [This is a newer incarnation of Mary "Neeld", whom we know was actually the re-married name of Mary (Darlington) Dutton, widow of "Pennsylvania John".] Born 1599 Sherborne, Gloucestershire Children: Elizabeth, AFN: HQNG-9K Born 1620 May 17 Sherborne, Gloucestershire Thomas, AFN: 1KRW-Z9 ["Our" Thomas] Born 1621/2 of Reading, Massachusetts ["Of" Reading is OK, but Reading was set off from Lynn in 1644. Lynn was renamed from Saugus in 1637. Saugus was first mentioned in 1631.] Josiah, AFN: K7H3-5V Born 1623 Sherborne, Gloucestershire Joseph, AFN: MT5X-38 Born 1623 Billerica, Massachusetts [Billerica was first mentioned in 1655, and was almost certainly devoid of English inhabitants before that date.] [Mother was BUSY in the year 1623!] Robert, AFN: K7H3-77 Born 1625 Billerica, Massachusetts [Still no English in Billerica.] Samuel, AFN: K7H3-62 Born 1627 Billerica, Massachusetts [No, not yet! STILL no English there.] --------------- According to these files, Thomas had two wives: Susannah, AFN: 8VDR-GV Born ca1626 of Reading, Massachusetts [See discussion of "of Reading" under Thomas, above.] Died 1684 Aug 27 Billerica, Massachusetts Susannah Palmer, AFN: 23QR-KP0 (last character is zero) Born 1626 Reading, Massachusetts Died Billerica, Massachusetts [OOPS. But there is a reason this "second wife" exists, in my opinion. The record of AFN: 8VDR-GV was locked by the LDS staff against further tries at changing her maiden name from "unknown" to "Palmer". At least, that was the case two years ago. Some creative submitter appears to have circumvented the limitation by adding the same person as a *second* spouse.... There is no real evidence that I am aware of that identifies Thomas' wife Susannah as being a Palmer.] --------------- Again, I am very interested in any NEW information that could help us all straighten out this family, and make some credible connections back to England. Darrell Darrell A. Martin formerly of the Dutton District, Springfield, Vermont currently in exile in Addison, Illinois darrellm@sprynet.com

CENSUS 1850 PENNSYLVANIA, Philadelphia County, Philadelphia City, Pine Ward, 27 July 1850, page 227, dwelling 93, family 147. Joseph L. Dutton age 63, Carpenter valued at $45,000, born Pennsylvania (wealthy in 1850); Susan Dutton age 45, with William Smith family he age 23. Cope, Gilbert. GENEALOGY OF THE DUTTON FAMILY OF PENNSYLVANIA, 1871. Page 53, # 88. Joseph L., b. July 27, 1787; the only surviving one of the family; and now almost blind. He has been a carpenter and builder in Philadelphia where he resides, and has twice been married, but his family has neglected to furnish their records. Cope tentatively links him to #37, Isaac and on back then to John Dutton and Mary Darlington. There are some 24 Duttons in this area on the census, but none have been linked by this submitter. Looking for Melvin Duttons for my collections.

>From the OHIO CENSUS 1850 AND 1860, plus e-mail sources?, I have eight children for William Raley Dutton: CENSUS 1850 OHIO, Washington County, Aurelius Twp., page 926, dwg 502, age 29, farmer, wife age 22; Philisty age 2, James 5/12. CENSUS 1860 OHIO, Washington County, Aurelius Twp., page 388, dwg. 666, farmer value 2300/325 wife 33; Felicity 11, James 9, Joseph 7, Rosela 5, Frederick 2, Darian 6/12. Children born Ohio. Philisty Felecity b. abt 1849 James b. abt 1851 Joseph b. abt 1853 Rosela b. abt 1855 Frederick b. abt 1858 Darian born abt 1860 Nelson s. born abt 1873 Hanson b. 11 June 1866; d. 12 Nov 1866 buried Lower Salem Oregon.

Hi Dick, What are the connections that you already have? Carole ________________ Dick Dutton wrote: > > Hi Carole & DUTTONs, > > Since you bring the subject up, I have, in my records, one Gilbert de > GAND and two of his descendent Gilbert de GAUNTs - all three are cousins > (if somewhat distant - and somewhat dead) to me and I assume all of you. > > Happy Hunting! > > Dick Dutton > ======================================================= > > Carole Dutton Malisiak wrote: > > > Carole Dutton Malisiak wrote: > > > > > > Hello Duttons: > > > > > > I have more information about connections to Richard de Gand (later > > > written as Gaunt), > > > > This is supposed to be Gilbert de Gand--not Richard. > > Sorry, > > Carole

Since Dick Dutton is trying to see if "the gang" is still all here, I thought I'd take the opportunity to re-post some material I posted some time ago. There may be some new people on this list who did not see my prior posting. Background: John and Mary (Darlington) Dutton, had emigrated to Aston, Pennsylvania in 1682. John died and his interest in their property had passed to his wife Mary (Darlington) Dutton. She had then remarried to a neighbor John Neelde. The deed is made August 15, 1712. For the price of 45 pounds John and Mary Neelde transfer to Robert Dutton, the youngest of four sons of John Dutton, 100 acres of land from the 500 acres originally laid out to John and Mary in 1683. (See Gilbert Cope's Genealogy of the Dutton Family of Pennsylvania, page 40-41 for a reference to this deed.) Transcription by Doug Hall, June 5, 1998: THIS INDENTURE made the fifteenth Day of the sixth month Called August in the Eleventh year of the Raigno of our Soveraigno Lady Anne over Great Brittain Queen: annoque Domini 1712 Between: John Neelde of Aston in the County of Chester yeoman & Mary Neelde his now wife of the one party: and Robert Dutton: Son of the said Mary Neelde Begotten by her former Husband John Dutton Deseased: of the Township and County aforesaid yeoman of the other party: Whereas Thomas Rowland of the County Palatine of Chester in the Kingdom of old England purchased of William Penn Esquire Absolute Proprietary & Governour in Chief of the province of Pennsylvania & Counties Annexed one thousand acres of Land in the Said province of Pennsylvania for the Consideration mentioned in The Said William Penn his Indenture of Release & Confirmation thereof made & Sealed & Signed Between the Said William Penn Esquire of the one party & the Said Thomas Rowland of the other party <scratched out> & Bearing Date the third Day of the first month called March anno que Domini 1681 Refference being thereunto had more fully & Largely appeareth AND WHEREAS also the Said Thomas Rowland by his Indenture of Grant & Release Bearing Date the twenty secound Day of May in the [????]th year of the Reign of King Charles the Secound over England &c annoque Domini 1682 Did bargain & Sell unto the abovementioned John Dutton Deceased & to the above named Mary Neelde his then wife Joyntly for Divers Good Causes & valuable Considerations: but more especially for the Consideration of [nine?] pounds of Lawfull Current money of England To him the Said Thomas Rowland then in hand paid by them the Said John Dutton & Mary his wife ffive Hundred acres of Land It being the one moiety or half part of the Said one Thousand acres of Land purchased as abovementioned of the Said proprietary & Chief Governour of pennsylvania, which said ffive Hundred acres of Land was by virtue of a warrant from the Chief proprietary Laid out & surveyed unto the Said John Dutton, & Mary his wife on the south side of Chester Creek in the County of Chester in the year of our Lord one Thousand Six Hundred Eighty & three: & the Said John Dutton Dyeing & his wife Mary that then was became Solo & whole purchaser of the Said five Hundred of Land & afterwards marrying with the abovesd John Neelde: & assuming the Name of her Husband John Neelde NOW THIS INDENTURE WITNESSETH that the Said John Neelde & Mary his now wife for & in Consideration of the Sum of five & forty pounds of Lawfull Current Silver money of Pennsylvania to whom in hand at or before the Ensealing & Delievery of those prsents well and truly paid by the abovesaid Robert Dutton the Receipt whereof They the Said John Neelde & Mary Neelde Doth hereby acknowledge & show[?] of & of Every part & parcell[?] therof Doth [?]oorly acquitt & Discharge him the Said Robert Dutton his heirs Ex[??] admits & assigns for Ever by those presents Doth Give Grant bargain Sell Alyon Release En[?]off & Confirm unto the Said Robert Dutton & his heirs & assigns for Ever a Certain part or parcell of Land it being part of the said five Hundred acres of Land Scituate Sott Lying & being in the Township of Aston & County of Chester aforesaid Beginning at a Chesnutt tree being a Corner tree of John Dutton's Land Thence north Sixty Seven Degrees Easterly in the Lyne of the said John Baldwins Eighty two [?????] to a post thence north west in the Lyne of John Dutton one Hundred Seventy & eight [????] to a White Oak Standing by the western branch of Chester Creek thence up the said branch Eighteen [????] to a beech tree thence south Sixty Seven Degrees westerly in the Lyne of James Widdows Ninety Eight [?????] to a White Oak thence in the Lyne of Edward Dutton South forty Six Degrees Easterly one Hundred fifty four [????] to a black Oak thence North Sixty Six Degrees Easterly in the Lyne of Jeremiah Cloud thirty six [????] to a Spanish Oak thence South twenty four degrees Easterly [to a] Lyne of the Said [Jeremiah] Cloud twenty four [????] to the place of Beginning Conveying one Hundred acres of Land Together woods underwoods tymber trees meadows pastures foodings Swamps Marshes C[??]mples Creeks Runns watters wattersources ways Easments prossitts [??]dittaments [pr]iviledges advantages & appurtnances whatsoever to the Said one Hundred acres of Land Belonging in any wise apportayning And Also all the Estate Right Tytle Info[??] possession Remaynder Inheritance property [?]ayine & Demand whatsoever of them the said John Neelde and Mary Neelde & their & Every of their heirs & assignes of in or to the said one Hundred acres of Land or of in or to any part parcell member priviledge or appurtnance whatsoever to the said one Hundred acres of Land belonging or in any wise apportayning, TO HAVE AND TO HOLD the said one Hundred acres of Land & all & singular other the Premises with the appurtnances before by those presents Granted Bargained & Sold or me[??]ed or Intended to be hereby Granted bargained & Sold & Every part & parcell thereof unto him the Said Robert Dutton his heirs & assignes for Ever To the onely proper use & Behhofe of him the Said Robert Dutton his heirs & assignes for Ever; under the yearly Quitt Rent hereafter accrueing to the [??]se proprietary his heirs & assignes for the Same after the Rate of one English silver Shilling or the value thereof in Coyn Currant yeerly for Ever, And the said John Neelde & Mary Neelde & their & either & every of their heirs; the Said one Hundred acres of Land and Premises with the appurtnances; unto the onely proper use & behoofe of him the Said Robert Dutton his heirs & assignes for Ever; against them the Said John Neelde & Mary Neelde & their & Every of their heirs & against all & Every the heirs of the above mentioned John Dutton & against all & Every other persons & persons whatsoever & their heirs Lawfully Clayming or so Clayme by from or under and or Either of them Shall & will warrant & for Ever Defend by those presents: And the Said John Neelde & Mary Neelde for themsohoof their & Either & every of their heirs: Exe[?] & admit Doth by these presents further Covenant promise Grant & Agree to & with the Said Robert Dutton his heirs & assignes: That they the Said John Neelde & Mary Neelde their & Either of their heirs Exe[?] & Admi[?] & all & Every other person & persons & their heirs Lawfully having or Claymeing or Rightfully pretending to have or which hereafter Shall or may Lawfully have or Clayme or Rightfully pretend to have and Estate Right Tytle Interest or Demand into or out of the before men[???]d premises or any part or [????] Thereof; by from or under the Said John Neelde & Mary his new wife or Either of them; or by from or under and or Either of their heirs Ex[??] admits or assignes Shall & will from Tyme to tyme & at all Tymes here[tofor] and During the space of [???] years from the Day of the Date of these Presents; at [the] At the Reasonable Request & at the Costs & Charges in the Law of him the Said Robert Dutton his heirs or assignes make Do acknowledge L[???] Ex[orate] & Suffer or Cause & procure to be made Done Acknowledged L[???]ed Ex[orat]ed & Suffered all & every such other & ffurther Lawfull and Reasonable act & acts thinge & thinges Desire & Desired assureance & assureances in the Law whatsoever for the other & further better Surety & more perfect assureances: Suremakeing & Conveying of all & [??????] the before Granted [????] with the appurtnances unto the only proper use & Behoofe of him the said R[obert Dutt]on his heirs & assignes for Ever as by him the said Rob[ert] Dutton his heairs & assignes or by his or their Councill Learned in the Law Shall be Lawfully & Reasonably Devised advised or Required In Witness hereof the said John Neelde & Mary Neelde hath to their present Indenture sett their hands & seals the Day & year first within written / Be it Remembered the fifteenth day of October Ano Domd 1712 Before me Nicholas Pyle One of the Justicesof this [????] of the County of Chester Came Thomas Dutton and Aaron Coppock and on their Solemn [????] Did declare & Say [??] they were personally present and saw John Neelde and Mary his wife Sign [???] As their Act & Deed Deliver this Indenture or Conveyance [????] And [?????????????????????] unto Subscribed [???] their own [??] writing In witness hereof I have hereunto Sett my hand & Seal this Day [????????????] Certificate first Above written. Nicholas Pyle (wax seal) Be it Remembered I John Simcock D{??} Recorder of Deeds for the sd County was present when the sd Thomas Dutton & Aaron Coppock Did before the Sd Justice prove the Signing Sealing & Delivery of the Sd Indenture WHEREUPON the Sd Justice having under his hand & seal Certified the Sd proofs made this Day & year in [???] & form aforesd Did deliver the Same to me to be Inrolled or Recorded and the Land is Recorded in the Inrolmt Office of the Sd County in Book ? page 300 &c the sixteenth Day of the Eighth month Ano Domd 1712 In Witness whereof I have hereunto Sett my hand & seal of the sd Office J O Simcock [???] (wax seal) (the three pages are tied together with two seals) On the outside Signed Sealed & Delivered In the Presence of Aaron Coppock (signature) Thomas Dutton (signature) Mary Neeld (her mark "M") John Neelde (signature)

The "infamous gang of seven!!" Yeah, we're trouble-makers for sure!! It comes from our Dutton "genes." Dissenters and rebels one and all! Phyllis ;-) -----Original Message----- From: Dick Dutton [mailto:rad@emcst.com] Sent: Sunday, September 05, 1999 1:55 PM To: DUTTON-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: OHIO DUTTONS Hello Jack, Welcome to the DUTTON List - and to the rewarding, but often frustrating, world of genealogy. In this case you may have hit the jackpot. You have provided just enough data for me to make a connection. You descend from the Pennsylvania DUTTONs, started by John DUTTON (we call him PA John) & Mary Darlington in about 1682 when they bought 500 acres of land in Delaware Co. from William PENN and immigrated from England. You are a fairly distant cousin of mine since I descend from MA John but you join an "infamous gang" of much closer cousins on this List who also descend from PA John. A few of the "ringleaders" include (but are not limited to): Sheryl Ann Dutton Banks Doug Hall Carole Ann Dutton Malisiak Phyllis Ryerse (from whom I originally got some of the data to make the connection to you) Karen Davis Sowards (some of the data also obtained from Karen) Robert Francis Dutton William Curtis "Curt" Rowe ARE ALL YOU "GUYS" PAYING ATTENTION? Below you will find a 7 generation Ahnentafel Report that will take you all the way back to PA John. Happy Hunting! Dick Dutton

Does anyone have easy access to the Hardin County marriage records? Specifically I'm looking for the parents of Nancy Catherine Rutledge who married Andrew Wade Dutton in May 1862 in Hardin County, Illinois. I think I've found her parents, but I'm not sure. Here's hoping there is something on the marriage records that will help. Nancy was born April 13, 1844 in Hawkins Co. Tenn. Thanks ever so much for any help you might have. Brenda Bremerton, WA

Hello Jack, Welcome to the DUTTON List - and to the rewarding, but often frustrating, world of genealogy. In this case you may have hit the jackpot. You have provided just enough data for me to make a connection. You descend from the Pennsylvania DUTTONs, started by John DUTTON (we call him PA John) & Mary Darlington in about 1682 when they bought 500 acres of land in Delaware Co. from William PENN and immigrated from England. You are a fairly distant cousin of mine since I descend from MA John but you join an "infamous gang" of much closer cousins on this List who also descend from PA John. A few of the "ringleaders" include (but are not limited to): Sheryl Ann Dutton Banks Doug Hall Carole Ann Dutton Malisiak Phyllis Ryerse (from whom I originally got some of the data to make the connection to you) Karen Davis Sowards (some of the data also obtained from Karen) Robert Francis Dutton William Curtis "Curt" Rowe ARE ALL YOU "GUYS" PAYING ATTENTION? Below you will find a 7 generation Ahnentafel Report that will take you all the way back to PA John. Happy Hunting! Dick Dutton Researching my family tree! Trunk: DUTTON Major branches: ALLEN, BARTLETT, CUTLER, DOGGETT, DUNTEN, DUNTON, JENSON, LAKE, METCALF, PALMER, PARTRIDGE, REYNOLDS, RICHARDS, SAWYER, SMITH, TRACY, TURNER, WARD, WEDGWOOD. Minor branches: ADAMS, ALDEN, BALL, BLACK, BLANCHARD, BREWSTER, BRIMHALL, CARY, COLBURN, HATCH, HOPKINS, HYDE, KIDDER, PERKINS, WARNER, WILLIAMS. Smaller Limbs: ALGER, ANDERSON, CLARK, DAVIS, FRENCH, FULLER, HALL, HARRIS, JOHNSON, KNAPP, McMILLAN, MERRICK, MILLER, MOORE, NELSON PARKER, TUTTLE - And many more. ============================================================ nvet65 wrote: > My ggrand father was Harry Albert Dutton. He was born in Macksburg Village; Washingto county Ohio on 03 July, 1883. He married Linnie Rhea DeLong who was from there also. > > His father was Joesph Albert Dutton (1853-1917) m. Sarah Anetta Ogle Oct. 12, 1872. One of my uncles told me that Joesph either help or designed a rig to drill oil wells with and that they had a write up about him in the Tulsa paper and something about him at the OIL EXPO here in Tulsa in the 50's. I only recently learned about this and haven't had a chance to check it out. > > Joesph father was William Raley Dutton (1830-1913). > > Only been doing genealogy for about 6 months and would appreciate any help on this line of Duttons I could get. > > Thank you, > > Jack L Smith Jr ICQ # 23705196 nvet65@wans.net =============================================== First Generation óóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóó 1 William Rayley DUTTON, 36131, M. Born on 10 Nov 1830 in Aurelius Twp., Washington Co., OH. William Rayley died in 1913; he was 82. James' oldest son, William Rayley Dutton was born november 10, 1830 and married Mary Anne Gevrez on June 16. 1849. William lived on his father's old farm ..which remained in the family over one hundred years, until his death in 1913. Phyllis Ryerse <phyllis@webnet.com> On 16 or 25 Jun 1849 when William Rayley was 18, he married Mary Anne GEVREZ, 36149, F. They had the following children: i. Rasselas Leroy, 36167, M (1855-1912) ii. Hanson, 214753, M (1866-1936) iii. Joseph Albert, 27626, M (1853-1917) Second Generation óóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóó 2 James DUTTON, 36104, M. Born on 23 Jul 1801 in Loudon, CO., VA. James died on 6 Jun 1886; he was 84. Buried in Mound Cemetery, Marietta, OH. James is the eldest son. It goes on about James being known as a hunter ....studying rock formations and Seneca or rock oil that he found seeping from crevices in the ground. James ended up being called Ohio's Oil King. After the Civil War James moved to Marietta, OH. Phyllis Ryerse <phyllis@webnet.com> SowardsFam@aol.com On 5 Mar 1823 when James was 21, he married Barbara Ann RAYLEY, 36128, F, in Washington Co., OH. They had one child: 1 i. William Rayley, 36131, M (1830-1913) 3 Barbara Ann RAYLEY, 36128, F. Buried in Mound Cemetery. Marietta, OH. Born in NY. Phyllis Ryerse <phyllis@webnet.com> Third Generation óóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóó 4 Joseph DUTTON, 36008, M. Born in 1776 in Birmingham Twp., Chester, PA. Joseph died in Macksburg, Washington Co., OH on 1 Sep 1841; he was 65. His son, Joseph, had five children (not listed). There's a bit of local history given here...about a hewed log house and wolves and panthers being troublesome. Phyllis Ryerse <phyllis@webnet.com> Karen Davis Sowards<SowardsFam@aol.com> In 1795 when Joseph was 19, he married Amy Job CHILDRETH, 36022, F, in Loudon Co., VA. They had the following children: 2 i. James, 36104, M (1801-1886) ii. Sarah\Sallie, 35760, F (<1793-) iii. David, 35833, M (<1797-) iv. Mary ìPollyî, 35837, F (1798-1890) v. Jane, 35857, F (~1800-) vi. Elizabeth, 35869, F (~1805-) vii. Susan, 35895, F (~1810-) 5 Amy Job CHILDRETH, 36022, F. Born in Oct 1769. Amy Job died in Macksburg, Washington Co., OH on 27 Mar 1860; she was 90. Phyllis Ryerse <phyllis@webnet.com> Karen Davis Sowards<SowardsFam@aol.com> Fourth Generation óóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóó 8 James DUTTON, 71382, M. Born in 1743 in Chester Co., PA. James died in Aurelius or Fearing Twp., Washington Co., OH on 1 Mar 1839; he was 96. James joined the Patriots against his families religious faith and fought in the battle of Brandywine. In 1786 the family moved to Loudon Co. VA where the oldest son Joseph was married to Amy Childreth. After his wifes death, James decided to move to the Ohio country. He arrived in Marietta on Christmas Day, 1806. He later moved up the creek to what is now Aurelius Twp. Phyllis Ryerse <phyllis@webnet.com> Mentioned in his fatherís will. "The Duttons of Pennsylvania" by Gilbert Cope, 1871. http://pw1.netcom.com/~curtrowe/dutton.html#DUTTON, Joseph d 14 Jun 1773 SowardsFam@aol.com Mary Ellen Kelchner <maryk@okeechobee.com> On 23 Sep 1775 when James was 32, he married Lydia Martha KIMLER, 35924, F, in Christís Church, Philadelphia, PA. They had the following children: 4 i. Joseph, 36008, M (1776-1841) ii. Polly, 35498, F iii. John, 214754, M 9 Lydia Martha KIMLER, 35924, F. Lydia Martha died on 19 Jul 1800 in Loudon Co., VA. SowardsFam@aol.com Mary Ellen Kelchner <maryk@okeechobee.com> Fifth Generation óóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóó 16 Joseph DUTTON, 26688, M. Born abt 1715. Joseph died on 14 Jun 1773; he was 58. Joseph & Elizabeth lived in Birmingham Township. Phyllis Ryerse <phyllis@webnet.com> Research: "The Duttons of Pennsylvania" by Gilbert Cope, 1871. http://pw1.netcom.com/~curtrowe/dutton.html#DUTTON, Joseph d 14 Jun 1773 On 21 Oct 1742 when Joseph was 27, he married Elizabeth SMITH, 99938, F.1 They had the following children: i. Mary, 71380, F ii. Jacob, 71381, M (-1791) 8 iii. James, 71382, M (1743-1839) iv. Susanna, 71383, F v. Hannah, 71384, F vi. Elizabeth, 71385, F vii. Joseph, 71386, M (1763-1827) 17 Elizabeth SMITH, 99938, F. Elizabeth died bef 14 Jun 1773.1 "The Duttons of Pennsylvania" by Gilbert Cope, 1871. http://pw1.netcom.com/~curtrowe/dutton.html#DUTTON, Joseph d 14 Jun 1773 Sixth Generation óóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóó 32 John DUTTON III, 10124, M. Born on 29 Oct 1675 in Overton Twp., Cheshire, England. John died in Delaware Co., PA on 21 Mar 1735; he was 59. Research: "The Duttons of Pennsylvania" by Gilbert Cope, 1871. http://pw1.netcom.com/~curtrowe/dutton.html#DUTTON, Kingsman b ca. 1711 On 11 Oct 1704 when John was 28, he married Elizabth Simcock KINGSMAN, 10110, F, in Concord meeting, Chester, PA. They had the following children: i. John1, 9875, M (~1705-) ii. Hannah1, 9876, F (~1702-1782) iii. Mary1, 24510, F (~1709-) iv. Kingsman1, 26148, M (~1711-1765) v. Jacob, 26206, M (~1713-<1749) 16 vi. Joseph, 26688, M (~1715-1773) vii. Robert, 27009, M (<1719-) viii. James1, 27252, M (~1724-1769) ix. Isaac, 27253, M (~1721-1760) x. Amy1, 27254, F (~1723-<1748) 33 Elizabth Simcock KINGSMAN, 10110, F. Born on 6 Sep 1685 in of Chester, PA. Elizabth Simcock died in Living 1745; she was 59. Research: "The Duttons of Pennsylvania" by Gilbert Cope, 1871. http://pw1.netcom.com/~curtrowe/dutton.html#DUTTON, Kingsman b ca. 1711 34 Thomas SMITH, 71379, M. Born in of Birmingham township. "The Duttons of Pennsylvania" by Gilbert Cope, 1871. http://pw1.netcom.com/~curtrowe/dutton.html#DUTTON, Joseph d 14 Jun 1773 Thomas married Elinor?1, 215493, F. They had one child: 17 i. Elizabeth, 99938, F (-<1773) 35 Elinor?1, 215493, F. Seventh Generation óóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóó 64 John DUTTON Jr.1, 10120, M. Born on 30 Nov 1648 in Overton Twp., Cheshire, England. John died in Ashton Twp, Delaware Co., PA. on 4 May 1693; he was 44. John Dutton, a Quaker, suffering religious persecutions, came from Cheshire County, England to Pensylvania. He was evidently in good circumstances, for before leaving England, he purchased about 500 acres of land which William Penn was then offering for sale. He brought with him his wife, Mary, and five children and in the same year they settled in Delaware County, where his block of land was situated. The children were: John, Edward, Thomas, Robert , and Elizabeth - the last named dying soon after the family arrived. In 1682, John Dutton with his wife (Mary Darlington) and four(five) children came to America and settled on a 500 acre tract in Ashton Township, Delaware County, Pennsylvania which was adjacent to Philadelphia County. This line, which became known as the Duttons of Pennsylvania, is the one that is documented here. John came to America in1682. The Surveyor General directed the following order to his deputy in Chester County: "By order and Directions from the Governor for setting out Lands to the Purchasers in Pensilvania, &c; I hereby Authorize thee to survey or lay out to Tho: Rowlands' assign four handred and eighty acres on the western side of Upland Creek, next to Nathanield Evans; and next lay out to John Warel two hundred and forty acres; and next lay out to John Neild two hundred and forty acres; and next John Edge, one hundred and twenty; and return to me true Duplicate of the ffield work and Protrracted ffigures which are to remain in my office." (Dated the 10th of ye 7 mo.,1682) The following return was made: "October the 8th 1682. Laid out for John Dutton 500 of Land on the west side of Upland creek, beginning at Nathaniel Evans' corner tree," &c. Research: "The Duttons of Pennsylvania" by Gilbert Cope, 1871. http://pw1.netcom.com/~curtrowe/dutton.html#DUTTON, Kingsman b ca. 1711 abt 1674 when John was 25, he married Mary DARLINGTON2,1, 10121, F, in Marbury, England. They had the following children: 32 i. John, 10124, M (1675-1735) ii. Edward1, 10123, M (1677->1731) iii. Thomas1, 10122, M (1679-1731) iv. Elizabeth, 10126, F (1681-1682) v. Robert1, 10127, M (1683-<1736) 65 Mary DARLINGTON2,1, 10121, F. Born in 1650/1653 in Cheshire, England. Mary died in Aston, Chester, PA. in 1717; she was 67. Mary had a brother Job who died 1731 Whitegate, Cheshire, England. Job married Mary___ and had at least 2 sons, both of whom emmigrated to PA by 1711 Bill Blackburn <shastabill@snowcrest.net> Research: "The Duttons of Pennsylvania" by Gilbert Cope, 1871. http://pw1.netcom.com/~curtrowe/dutton.html#DUTTON, Kingsman b ca. 1711 66 John KINGSMAN1, 215464, M. John died abt 1721. John married Hannah SIMCOCK1, 215465, F. They had one child: 33 i. Elizabth Simcock, 10110, F (1685-1745) 67 Hannah SIMCOCK1, 215465, F. Sources 1. Gilbert Cope, ìGenealogy of the DUTTON Family of Pennsylvania,î F.S. Hiickman, Printer, West Chester, PA, 1871, Higginson Genealogical Books, Salem, MA, 1997. 2. William John Blackburn III 1612 North Old Stage Rd. Mt Shasta, CA 96067 shastabill@snowcrest.net óóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóó Please send any corrections or additions to: Richard A. Dutton - 325 Beal Parkway, Fort Walton Beach, FL 32548-3956 Phone: 850-862-3327 FAX: 850-864-1444 E-mail: rad@emcst.com

My ggrand father was Harry Albert Dutton. He was bornin Macksburg Village; Washingto county Ohio on 03 July, 1883. He married Linnie Rhea DeLong who was from there also. His father was Joesph Albert Dutton (1853-1917) m. Sarah Anetta Ogle Oct. 12, 1872. One of my uncles told me that Joesph either help or designed a rig to drill oil wells with and that they had a write up about him in the Tulsa paper and something about him at the OIL EXPO here in Tulsa in the 50's. I only recently learned about this and haven't had a chance to check it out. Joesph father was William Raley Dutton (1830-1913). Only been doing genealogy for about 6 months and would appreciate any help on this line of Duttons I could get. Thank you, Jack L Smith Jr ICQ # 23705196 nvet65@wans.net

1860 CENSUS Ohio, Belmont County, Pease Twp., post office Bridgeport, 31 July 1860, page 260, dwelling 1086. Francis R. Dutton age 59, farmer; his wife Catherine a. 56 born Pennsylvania, daugh Mxxillegible (probably Cope's Maria H) age 19, David 18, William 11. See Cope #125 and page 55 #125. I never found Francis R. on the 1850 census, although he was supposed to have arrived in Harrisville, Ohio 1834. There were three James W. Dutton's on my Ohio file, but none match. 1860 CENSUS, Illinois, Tazewell County, township of Delevan, City of Pekin. Page 485/486, dwelling 1711, family of Harry Pratt age 33, Merchant. James Dutton age 21, a Merchant born Ohio. IGI North America has James W. Dutton married Alice H. Parker 30 Nov 1862, in Tazewell, County. Cope, Gilbert. GEN OF THE DUTTON FAMILY OF PENN., 1871. Page 66, #271. James W. Dutton, born Nov 29, 1838 in Jefferson County, Ohio; went to Delavan, Illinois in 1858, and was married there to Alice, daughter of Uriah PARKE of Zanesville, Ohio; moved to Jerseyville, Ill., 1864, but now (1871) living in Kane, Greene County, Illinois. It would appear the data from the census matches that of Cope. In addition, Cope writes that Francis R. Dutton was in Jerseyville, Illinois in 1871. Jerseyville is in Jersey County, just north of Greene County, which is just above St. Louis. Tazewell was northwest of both.

Hi Carole & DUTTONs, Since you bring the subject up, I have, in my records, one Gilbert de GAND and two of his descendent Gilbert de GAUNTs - all three are cousins (if somewhat distant - and somewhat dead) to me and I assume all of you. Happy Hunting! Dick Dutton Researching my family tree! Trunk: DUTTON Major branches: ALLEN, BARTLETT, CUTLER, DOGGETT, DUNTEN, DUNTON, JENSON, LAKE, METCALF, PALMER, PARTRIDGE, REYNOLDS, RICHARDS, SAWYER, SMITH, TRACY, TURNER, WARD, WEDGWOOD. Minor branches: ADAMS, ALDEN, BALL, BLACK, BLANCHARD, BREWSTER, BRIMHALL, CARY, COLBURN, HATCH, HOPKINS, HYDE, KIDDER, PERKINS, WARNER, WILLIAMS. Smaller Limbs: ALGER, ANDERSON, CLARK, DAVIS, FRENCH, FULLER, HALL, HARRIS, JOHNSON, KNAPP, McMILLAN, MERRICK, MILLER, MOORE, NELSON PARKER, TUTTLE - And many more. ======================================================= Carole Dutton Malisiak wrote: > Carole Dutton Malisiak wrote: > > > > Hello Duttons: > > > > I have more information about connections to Richard de Gand (later > > written as Gaunt), > > This is supposed to be Gilbert de Gand--not Richard. > Sorry, > Carole

Darrell A. Martin wrote: <<<<Hi, Carole and list: I'm puzzled. I thought I was AGREEING with you, and applauding your efforts. If you believe that in cutting some of the original message (strictly to avoid pointless repetition, which I find mildly irritating when I am on the receiving end) I have misstated your position, I apologize. What I thought I was agreeing with was this: First, that in the period more or less soon after the Conquest, the Dutton family claimed certain connections with one or more families the Continent. Second, that earlier professional genealogists had dismissed these traditional connections. Third, that since this was done, few have bothered to reexamine the question with an open mind. Fourth, that whether or not a specific paper trail exists, you believe that the search is worthwhile, and that there very well may be sufficient credible evidence to support those earliest, traditional claims. You have been seeking out such evidence, and have shared your findings with us. Darrell Darrell A. Martin formerly of the Dutton District, Springfield, Vermont currently in exile in Addison, Illinois darrellm@sprynet.com>>>> ____________________________ Hi Darrell, I thought you were agreeing with me, too, but when the message was cut, it took on a different meaning and I just wanted to make sure that my original meaning was retained. The snip made it look, to me, like I was agreeing with the experts. That is why I wanted to reclarify my message. Maybe no one else read it that way, but I couldn't be sure. Your summary above is perfect and stated more clearly than my original post (at least, I think so!). Carole

At 03:36 PM 09/04/1999 -0400, you (Carole) wrote: [snip "millenium"] >> >Regarding the early Duttons and the earliest recorded date from our >> >family. There is no easy, short answer. >> > The professional genealogists would say that the earliest recorded >> >Dutton is Odard who is listed in the Domesday Book, 1086. >> >> [snip] >> >> >The earliest Duttons believed that they were from Normandy >> >and were cousins to the Conqueror, but 1000 years later we cannot find >> >the paper trail to prove it (and the paper trail may no longer even >> >exist). >> >Carole >> >> Carole's summary is about the most accurate statement you >> can get today about the ancestry of Odard/Hodard/Udard >> "of Dutton". >---------------snip---------------- >> Darrell > >Hi Darrell, > >In all fairness, this statement that you call MY summary is NOT a >summary at all of what I have written--it has been taken out of context >and, thus, distorted. I disagree with the experts who claim that Odard >and his brothers are English and chop off the line at Odard. [snip remainder of message - see the original] Hi, Carole and list: I'm puzzled. I thought I was AGREEING with you, and applauding your efforts. If you believe that in cutting some of the original message (strictly to avoid pointless repetition, which I find mildly irritating when I am on the receiving end) I have misstated your position, I apologize. What I thought I was agreeing with was this: First, that in the period more or less soon after the Conquest, the Dutton family claimed certain connections with one or more families the Continent. Second, that earlier professional genealogists had dismissed these traditional connections. Third, that since this was done, few have bothered to reexamine the question with an open mind. Fourth, that whether or not a specific paper trail exists, you believe that the search is worthwhile, and that there very well may be sufficient credible evidence to support those earliest, traditional claims. You have been seeking out such evidence, and have shared your findings with us. Darrell Darrell A. Martin formerly of the Dutton District, Springfield, Vermont currently in exile in Addison, Illinois darrellm@sprynet.com

Carole Dutton Malisiak wrote: > > Hello Duttons: > > I have more information about connections to Richard de Gand (later > written as Gaunt), This is supposed to be Gilbert de Gand--not Richard. Sorry, Carole

Darrell A. Martin wrote: ------------snip------------- > > Well, actually, one of the later babies of the millenium <grin>. > (I warned you in advance I was a picky stick-in-the-mud.) But > congrats anyway! You could always extend the Dutton tree a wee > bit more and go for a "real" millenium baby--you'll just > barely have time! <just kidding, Carolyn!!!> Darrell, my dictionary reports the meaning of millennium as:"3. a thousandth anniversary esp. the year 1000 or 1001 or 2000 or 2001, etc." ------------------big snip------------- see below > > >Regarding the early Duttons and the earliest recorded date from our > >family. There is no easy, short answer. > > The professional genealogists would say that the earliest recorded > >Dutton is Odard who is listed in the Domesday Book, 1086. > > [snip] > > >The earliest Duttons believed that they were from Normandy > >and were cousins to the Conqueror, but 1000 years later we cannot find > >the paper trail to prove it (and the paper trail may no longer even > >exist). > >Carole > > Carole's summary is about the most accurate statement you > can get today about the ancestry of Odard/Hodard/Udard > "of Dutton". ---------------snip---------------- > Darrell Hi Darrell, In all fairness, this statement that you call MY summary is NOT a summary at all of what I have written--it has been taken out of context and, thus, distorted. I disagree with the experts who claim that Odard and his brothers are English and chop off the line at Odard. I have uncovered internal evidence that raises legitimate questions regarding the early professional genealogists and their accuracy. I have uncovered external evidence which they did not find which supports our ancestor's (and Dugdale) claims and charts of descent from Normandy. I just wanted to set the record straight as you have distorted what I have said and turned it into something else. I provided the DUTTONS with the historical background regarding the argument. People can form their own opinion based upon the facts. To summarize my post: Although the earlier professional genealogists have discarded the Dutton's continental connections (based on the name game), the evidence available today suggests that they are probably mistaken. Although it is difficult to find these old records, I have found primary external evidence which lends support to the "Costentyn" [sic] connections claimed and charted by our ancestors and lends support to Dugdale. The internal evidence also shows that these names developed on the continent with English spellings applied to them. Furthermore, Keats-Rohan also provides supporting evidence that Odard is a Norman. The Domesticon Anglicanum is cited profusely by Keats-Rohan and other genealogists and I am not willing, nor justified, in throwing out this ancient record. Thus, my search for proof of Odard's ancestors continues. Carole

>From History of California Vol 2 1801-1824, Hubert Howe Bancroft, 1890 Dutton (David Dewey), 1840 [the year he came to California], nat. of Mass. who crossed the plains to Or. in '39, and in '40 was a passenger on the Lausanme, touching at Bodega... HIs wife was Marrtha J. Pearson, married in '56 ; and they had 7 children in ;79 Dutton (Daniel), 1847, owner of lat at S. F.

I am a descendent of: James DUTTON, born 1743 in Chester Co PA and Lydia KILMER/KIMLER. Their son: Joseph DUTTON born 1776 in Birmingham Twp, Chester Co, PA married Anna May/ Amy JOB/CHILDRETH. Their daughter: Mary "Polly" DUTTON born 5 Feb 1798 in Lowell, Washington Co, OH (then the NWT) married Daniel "Squire" DAVIS. Their son: George Buell DAVIS born 22 Mar 1845 in Adams Twp, Washington Co OH married Elizabeth RHINEHARDT. Their son: Clark Sylvester DAVIS born 18 Nov 1871 married Margaret Rachel MENDENHALL (descendant of Joseph MENDENHALL and Ruth GILPIN also of Chester Co PA) Does any of this sound familiar? Karen Davis Sowards