Phyllis and Susie, Is the newsletter the website or...? Since I am new to this happy, inquisitive group, I need to know the scoop. Who is Baron Sherbourne? Eldorado? This young 16-year-old? Exciting news, but is there more? Suzie Smith ----- Original Message ----- From: <DWedgewort@aol.com> To: <ssmith@kyol.net> Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 1999 4:34 PM Subject: Re: DUTTON-JEREMIAH-D Digest V99 #5 > No I am not talking about you, but Sue Rodgers with the Dutton newsletter. > Thanks, Phyllis
Hi cousins, Who can help me with this branch of our tree. Primarily, who are Cecil's parents. Anything would be appreciated. There isn't much in the way of vital statistics. I suspect the data has been through someones privacy filter. Dick Dutton Researching my family tree! Trunk: DUTTON Major branches: ALLEN, BARTLETT, CUTLER, DOGGETT, DUNTEN, DUNTON, JENSON, LAKE, METCALF, PALMER, PARTRIDGE, REYNOLDS, RICHARDS, SAWYER, SMITH, TRACY, TURNER, WARD, WEDG(E)WOOD. Minor branches: ADAMS, ALDEN, BALL, BLACK, BLANCHARD, BREWSTER, BRIMHALL, CARPENTER, CARY, COLBURN, HATCH, HOPKINS, HYDE, KIDDER, PERKINS, WARNER, WILLIAMS. Smaller Limbs: ALGER, ANDERSON, CLARK, DAVIS, FRENCH, FULLER, HALL, HARRIS, JOHNSON, KNAPP, McMILLAN, MERRICK, MILLER, MOORE, NELSON PARKER, TUTTLE - And many more. ======================================================= (1) 1 Cecil DUTTON, 7589, M óóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóó Spouse: Elma OXFORD, 7590, F Birth: Dec 1894 Father: John Riley ìCurleyî OXFORD, 7614, M (1866-1957) Mother: Mary Jane ìMollieî MILLER, 7615, F (1877-) Children: John, 7591, M Eugene Orval, 7602, M Ada, 7611, F (2) 1.1 John DUTTON, 7591, M óóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóó Spouse: Trilla ROSEMOND, 7592, F Children: Richard Allen, 7593, M (3) 1.1.1 Richard Allen DUTTON, 7593, M óóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóó Spouse: Shirley McCALIF, 7594, F Children: Joey, 7595, M Allen, 7600, M Vickie, 7601, F (4) 1.1.1.1 Joey DUTTON, 7595, M óóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóó Spouse: Carolyn LEE, 7596, F Children: Johie, 7597, ? Carolyn, 7598, F Thomas, 7599, M (5) 1.1.1.1.1 Johie DUTTON, 7597, ? óóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóó (5) 1.1.1.1.2 Carolyn DUTTON, 7598, F óóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóó (5) 1.1.1.1.3 Thomas DUTTON, 7599, M óóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóó (4) 1.1.1.2 Allen DUTTON, 7600, M óóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóó (4) 1.1.1.3 Vickie DUTTON, 7601, F óóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóó (2) 1.2 Eugene Orval DUTTON, 7602, M óóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóó Spouse: Louise MARRUZYA, 7603, F Children: Charles Eugene, 7604, M Edward Dean, 7607, M (3) 1.2.1 Charles Eugene DUTTON, 7604, M óóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóó Spouse: Joyce TENNESON, 7605, F Children: Tina Louise, 7606, F (4) 1.2.1.1 Tina Louise DUTTON, 7606, F óóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóó (3) 1.2.2 Edward Dean DUTTON, 7607, M óóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóó Spouse: Carol GREGORY, 7608, F Children: Aaron Lee, 7609, M Greg Allen, 7610, M (4) 1.2.2.1 Aaron Lee DUTTON, 7609, M óóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóó (4) 1.2.2.2 Greg Allen DUTTON, 7610, M óóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóó (2) 1.3 Ada DUTTON, 7611, F óóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóó Spouse: Deli SANTE, 7612, M Children: Gregory, 7613, M (3) 1.3.1 Gregory SANTE, 7613, M óóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóó He had a daughter. óóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóóó Please report corrections or additions to: Richard A. Dutton 325 Beal Parkway Ft. Walton Beach, FL 32548-3956 850-862-3327 FAX 850-864-1444 E-mail rad@emcst.com
-----Original Message----- From: Merv & Jackie Purdy <mjpurdy@cwnet.com> To: DUTTON-I@rootsweb.com <DUTTON-I@rootsweb.com> Date: Thursday, October 21, 1999 2:08 PM Subject: Dutton's in Bullock & Effingham Co's GA & Mass I am trying to locate information on my Dutton family, My Grandfather was: Thomas Absalom Dutton b: April 1, 1875, Egypt, Effingham Co., GA. mar: Mattie Carroll Fryar from Magnolia, Duplin Co., NC Thomas d: October 27, 1927. His parents were: Thomas Absalom Dutton b:June 28, 1846, Bullock Co.,GA. mar: Eugenia N. Foy Thomas d: August 30, 1875 Thomas served in the CSA, 54th GA.Infantry, Co.I The above are all buried in Elam Baptist Cemetery, Egypt, Effingham Co.,GA. Thomas and Eugenia were married in Bullock Co., GA. His parents were: Samuel Dutton & Sarah Hagin. Their names appear on the Bullock Co., Census of 1850. It shows Samuel as age 29 & Sarah as age 31. Thomas, age 3 Sarah, age 2. There is also on the 1850 census Henry Dutton age 61 married to Ann (Cock)? age 49. It states Henry was from Mass. and a carpenter by trade. That age he would have been born in 1789. It also lists the following children: Joseph, 24 Andrew, 21 William, 19 Mary, 15 John Welsey, 13 Overton, 10 Martha, 7 Since Samuel was 29, I am wondering if he was his older son. Interested in knowing Henry Duttons birthplace and any information about him in Mass. and when he came to Bullock Co. Hoping someone can help me with these names and places. Thanks, Jackie in California
1850 Illinois Census, Will County (near Cook, Chicago), Crete Township, page 163, dwg 25, 18 Sept 1850. John Dutton age 55 farmer, real estate 500, Sarah 52, Silas 10--all born New York. 1860 Illinois Census, Will County, Town of Monee, post office Monee, page 223/453, dwg 1692, fam. 1605. John Dutton age 67 farmer, real estate 1000, Sarah 61, both born New York. In addition to John Dutton of Will county, see also Abbott S. Dutton age 32, Charles Dutton age 23, and Orson B. Dutton age 26, all with families. While the ages or other data do not quite match, there are a number of Iowa families who could be related. See also in Iowa, 1860 Census Buchanan County, Abbott E. Dutton age 45 born New York; 1870 Dallas Co. Abbott Dutton age 53 Merchant born New York; 1860 Iowa, Deleware Co., O. B. Dutton age 35 Merchant born New York and Josiah age 69 born New York. 1850 Census Illinois, Will County, Crete Township, page 163, dwelling 29, 18 Sept 1850. Abbott S. Dutton age 32 farmer born New York; Jane age 29 born Vermont; Gatnella age 7, Oliver age 2, and John E. age 1/12--all children b. Illinois and in school. 1850 Census Illinois, Will County, Crete Township, page 167, dwelling 77, 18 Sept 1850. Charles Dutton age 23 farmer, Mary 22 both b. NY; Laura A. age 10/12 born Illinois. 1850 Census Illinois, Will County, Carey Township, page 172b, dwelling 25, 20 Sept 1850. Orson B. Dutton age 26 farmer, Lydia A. age 25, Martha L. age 4, all born New York. The latter three seemed to have disappeared from the 1860 Illinois Census, or their names are not easily matched. I am seeking Melvin Duttons for my collection of about 30 Melvin Duttons.
Hello Cousin! We are cousins, sharing a great-great grandfather, Jonathan Dutton (the younger)! Here is my descent from Jonathan: 1. Jonathan DUTTON and Rachel PENNELL 2. Nathan DUTTON and Sidney LARKIN (Nathan being the oldest brother of William Henry) (Nathan was killed by lightning at Village Green, PA in 1858. His mother, our shared great great grandmother, died the next day from the emotional shock of her eldest son's death.) 3. Frank DUTTON and Matha Caroline BEESON (Frank was not yet born when his father died. His mother died when he was 7 years old and then "Uncle Henry", your great-grandfather raised Frank.) 4. Louisa Belle DUTTON and Lloyd Norris HALL 5. Wallace Dutton HALL and Alice Neely ZABEL 6. Douglas Edmund HALL (me) My father and grandparents are buried in the Mt. Hope cemetery. I grew up in Lower Merion Township in Montgomery County but visited Dutton relatives in Chester and Ridley Park area thoughout the 1950s. I have pretty complete descent information for you down to William Henry Dutton (your grandfather). If you would like, I can send you an RTF file of ancestry information that I have in my Family Tree Maker software. Doug Hall ----- Original Message ----- From: Big Bad Maddog <maddog_45@hotmail.com> To: <DUTTON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 14, 1999 10:57 PM Subject: Dutton bug I caught it > Big Bad Maddog wrote: > > > >Hi Carole > >I have read many of your emails..did not have much to add..I went to > the Mt > >Hope church and then to the Haverford college in PA. I can trace my > family > >back to John and Mary of PA. For years I never new my Grandfathers > name. Now > >I know them all. The big problem was I found them through the wives > Maden > >names..Not much was on the male line on the net. Well now I would like > to > >add info and join the search for more..I know I have 1st cousins I > never > >met. I also live one hour away from aston township, delaware county. > If > >anyone needs help let me know. I was born there. > >Joseph Robert Dutton 1945 > >father was Barton Johnson Dutton 1917 - 1978 > >his dad William Henry Dutton Jr 1873 - 1932 > >his dad William Henry Dutton 1831 - 1908 > >his dad Jonathan Dutton 1784 - 1861 > >his dad Jonathan Dutton 1747 - 1820 > >his dad Richard Dutton 1711 - 1795 > >his dad Thomas Dutton I 1679 - 1731 > >his dad John Dutton Jr 1647 - 1693 > > Iam also getting the Gilbert Cope book on the Duttons copied..I found a lot > of info at the Haverford College. this has made my day,, learning all this > info about Duttons > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com >
According to my checklist, I may not have posted this Pennsylvania Dutton to DUTTON-L@rootsweb.com ; so, for your notes: 1850 CENSUS PENNSYLVANIA, Deleware County, Middletown Township, Dwelling 205, Family 206, page 189. Nathan Dutton age 51, Shoemaker born PA. Hannah age 26, Mary E. age 9, Thomas age 6, Seiois 2, George 1. All born Pennsylvania. Deleware (?& Elk) County, Upper Chester Twp., Fam 92, Dwg 93, page 31. Jonathan Dutton age 66 farmer b. PA; Hannah N. age 28, Thelma age 26, David N. age 21, Wm. N. age 18? all born Pennsylvania. Uppper Chester Twp., Fam 96, Dwg 98, page 31 Nathan Dutton age 30 farmmer, married ? year, Sidney age 28, both born Pennsylvania.
Big Bad Maddog wrote: > >Hi Carole >I have read many of your emails..did not have much to add..I went to the Mt >Hope church and then to the Haverford college in PA. I can trace my family >back to John and Mary of PA. For years I never new my Grandfathers name. Now >I know them all. The big problem was I found them through the wives Maden >names..Not much was on the male line on the net. Well now I would like to >add info and join the search for more..I know I have 1st cousins I never >met. I also live one hour away from aston township, delaware county. If >anyone needs help let me know. I was born there. >Joseph Robert Dutton 1945 >father was Barton Johnson Dutton 1917 - 1978 >his dad William Henry Dutton Jr 1873 - 1932 >his dad William Henry Dutton 1831 - 1908 >his dad Jonathan Dutton 1784 - 1861 >his dad Jonathan Dutton 1747 - 1820 >his dad Richard Dutton 1711 - 1795 >his dad Thomas Dutton I 1679 - 1731 >his dad John Dutton Jr 1647 - 1693 Iam also getting the Gilbert Cope book on the Duttons copied..I found a lot of info at the Haverford College. this has made my day,, learning all this info about Duttons ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Thanks to Dick and the rest of you cousins close and distant for the information I recieved on Harry A. Dutton my ggrand father. I got caught up in a mail count as I am a rural mail carrier and local union steward. I have not had time to study the list e-mail very much but hope to have time to now and get on with my research on the Dutton line. Thanks very much and I hope I can contribute as time goes. Jack Smith Jr. nvet65@wans.net ICQ # 23705196 Skiatook, Oklahoma
I don't know about the rest of you, but I say anybody willing to share everything this young man says he has access to makes him a 'DUTTON' for sure. Carole and Colin, Thank you so much for sharing your information. I'm hanging on every word. Brenda Bremerton, WA
What an interesting turn of events!! All this from a 16 year old?? I'm wondering how the UK in Y2K plans are progressing. We've gotta get over there to see all this great "stuff!" Hey, I'll help buy the film too!! Phyllis in Atlanta ________________________ colin.dutton@bt.com wrote: > > Hi Carole, > > Well, I made contact last night with the young man who sent you the e-mail, > we spoke for over an hour and I can now give you an update of our > conversation. > > Eldorado!! I think that this may be our Eldorado as young Byron Hadley > (aged 16 years) has been entrusted with a wealth of Dutton information, let > me try to explain. > > As you already know, the main line of the Dutton family came to an abrupt > end in the 18th Century and the title of 'Lord Dutton' passed over to the > Sherborne branch of the family who were cousins and rightfully descended > from Sir Piers Dutton. Young Byron's grandfather worked for and was a close > confidant of the last Baron Sherborne and Byron's mother also worked on the > Sherborne estate. Byron took a close interest in the Dutton family and > although he never met the late Baron, he became quite close with the late > Baron's daughter and it was she who took young Byron under her wing and > talked for hours on end about the history of the family. Byron was smitten > and his interest has grown and grown and this was recognised by his > contemporary and he was rewarded by being entrusted with all of the family > artefacts. > > Artefacts, what artefacts I asked. Well, sit down Carole for here it comes. > > The family home of Sherborne Hall was handed over to the National Trust as > few years ago, but the contents of the Hall, family portraits going back to > Sir Piers Dutton, documentation spanning many years, family trees, yes > trees, Dutton pottery and other interesting items. He has many photographs > of Duttons and Dutton memorabilia, some of which he is sending to me. > > We discussed the whereabout of Dutton Hall, he only knew that it had been > demolished, he didn't know of its actual move to East Grinstead, Surrey and > was quite excited at learning this. He hadn't a copy of the 'Chart', which > I am now going to send him as he may be able to authenticate it from his > collection of family trees. His knowledge of the Sherborne side of the > family is quite extensive, all the way back to Sir Piers, so much so that he > has written a book which he hopes to publish in January that gives a brief > history on each family member, watch this space for an update. I am hoping > that when I have vision of these chronicles that it may help shed light on > the matter which has baffled you all over in the States and that is where > does John Dutton fit into the Dutton line. > > Byron tells me that the collection of portraits and other artefacts are to > go on public view at Sherborne Hall, hopefully next Easter but as he is the > custodian, I could visit him before them for a private viewing, wow!! > > He is adamant that the National Trust doesn't get its hands on everything > and that everything remains accessible to Duttons, what a man. He says that > the local library has copies of earlier versions of the Dutton's of > Sherborne, dated 1891 and previous and is happy that they are held there to > stop the N.T. from obtaining them. > > Well, I will be giving him another call real soon and hope to make > arrangements to visit him in a few weeks time as I will take time off work > during my partners (Liz) school half term holiday so that we can both go > down to Sherborne. Liz shares an interest in history which is a pleasant > change as my wife never really showed any interest at all. > > Regards for now > > Colin
Hi Colin, Sounds like we may have hit the jackpot!!! Please, please take your camera with tons of film with you. I can help cover film costs. See if he has Odard's sword!! Are you still on the List? If not, resubscribe and post your findings to all of us at the same time. I sent parts of your message from yesterday and am sending your message today. I'm getting excited NOW! Also, I have been redocumenting the PA John line and have primary sources from Hugh Dutton IX down to Hugh Dutton of Hatton. And from PA John back to Hugh Dutton of Woodhouses. There is a big undocumented emptiness of 5 generations between these two lines (see Lawson's chart). I hope that he can help for these 5 generations (but probably not--but maybe!!) I just wonder what all he has!! Thanks, Colin, for all your help, Carole ________________________ colin.dutton@bt.com wrote: > > Hi Carole, > > Well, I made contact last night with the young man who sent you the e-mail, > we spoke for over an hour and I can now give you an update of our > conversation. > > Eldorado!! I think that this may be our Eldorado as young Byron Hadley > (aged 16 years) has been entrusted with a wealth of Dutton information, let > me try to explain. > > As you already know, the main line of the Dutton family came to an abrupt > end in the 18th Century and the title of 'Lord Dutton' passed over to the > Sherborne branch of the family who were cousins and rightfully descended > from Sir Piers Dutton. Young Byron's grandfather worked for and was a close > confidant of the last Baron Sherborne and Byron's mother also worked on the > Sherborne estate. Byron took a close interest in the Dutton family and > although he never met the late Baron, he became quite close with the late > Baron's daughter and it was she who took young Byron under her wing and > talked for hours on end about the history of the family. Byron was smitten > and his interest has grown and grown and this was recognised by his > contemporary and he was rewarded by being entrusted with all of the family > artefacts. > > Artefacts, what artefacts I asked. Well, sit down Carole for here it comes. > > The family home of Sherborne Hall was handed over to the National Trust as > few years ago, but the contents of the Hall, family portraits going back to > Sir Piers Dutton, documentation spanning many years, family trees, yes > trees, Dutton pottery and other interesting items. He has many photographs > of Duttons and Dutton memorabilia, some of which he is sending to me. > > We discussed the whereabout of Dutton Hall, he only knew that it had been > demolished, he didn't know of its actual move to East Grinstead, Surrey and > was quite excited at learning this. He hadn't a copy of the 'Chart', which > I am now going to send him as he may be able to authenticate it from his > collection of family trees. His knowledge of the Sherborne side of the > family is quite extensive, all the way back to Sir Piers, so much so that he > has written a book which he hopes to publish in January that gives a brief > history on each family member, watch this space for an update. I am hoping > that when I have vision of these chronicles that it may help shed light on > the matter which has baffled you all over in the States and that is where > does John Dutton fit into the Dutton line. > > Byron tells me that the collection of portraits and other artefacts are to > go on public view at Sherborne Hall, hopefully next Easter but as he is the > custodian, I could visit him before them for a private viewing, wow!! > > He is adamant that the National Trust doesn't get its hands on everything > and that everything remains accessible to Duttons, what a man. He says that > the local library has copies of earlier versions of the Dutton's of > Sherborne, dated 1891 and previous and is happy that they are held there to > stop the N.T. from obtaining them. > > Well, I will be giving him another call real soon and hope to make > arrangements to visit him in a few weeks time as I will take time off work > during my partners (Liz) school half term holiday so that we can both go > down to Sherborne. Liz shares an interest in history which is a pleasant > change as my wife never really showed any interest at all. > > Regards for now > > Colin
Hello all: Well, here all the Dutton descendants are waiting with bated breath for the next installment of this exciting adventure. Many thanks to everyone for sharing their histories and being willing to help. A Dutton descendant way back there, in fact, running back through Piers Dutton. Now, someone fill me in on a little of the National Trust. I caught a little off-flavor there. Thanks all, Etta (McMillan) Cooper EttaCoop@hotmail.com Tulsa, Oklahoma, USA ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Hi Phyllis, I trust that you have now received Tony's email saying that there is no Baron Sherborne--that the line is extinct. Short-lived excitement! Oh Well! However, it is still a curious situation with young Byron claiming to be a Dutton heir! Only five more wills to go and I can claim to be a Dutton heir, too! [that is, if Lawson is correct] :-)) Carole ---------------------- Phyllis Ryerse wrote: > > COLIN's back! Yeaaaaaaaaa! > And now we have a BARON!! > Think I've died and gone to heaven! ;-)))))))) > > I remember last year about this time.....we had all those gorgeous pictures > from Colin and "the CHART!" What wonderful excitement! > > What terrific new "stuff" might this Baron come up with! > Guess he's not on the internet or he would have tripped over us a long time > ago. > > Tantalizing, indeed. > > Phyllis > > -----Original Message----- > From: Carole Dutton Malisiak [mailto:malisiak@midohio.net] > Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 1999 6:16 PM > To: DUTTON-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Baron Sherborne > > Hello all, > > Yesterday, someone left this tantalizing message in my guestbook on my > home page. So, I asked Doug what he thought about it as he has been to > England before and perhaps would know if this were legitimate. Sometime > later, I thought, ask Colin, too--he lives there. He ought to know! > > After a long absence from our LIST (for personal reasons), I was > surprised that Colin responded. His investigative work is reported > below. > > ------------------------- > Forwarded to Colin > > <<<Dear Doug, > What do you make of this message left in my guestbook on my home page? > Does this seem like a legitimate address to you? Is this a hoax? Or is > this for real? Is there a Baron Sherborne? > > Name: BARON SHERBORNE > E-mail address: NONE > Homepage URL http://NONE? > Comments: I now head the Duttons of Sherborne not by blood but by title > and devotion. I am interested to hear from other Duttons as my family > are all but extinct. add: 45 Sherborne Cheltenham GLOS GL54 3DH ENGLAND > I have the largest collection of books and photographs in England. > tel/fax 01451 810860(england) Monday October 11th 1999 07:02:42 > > http://books.dreambook.com/dutton/second.html > > Carole>>> > ------------------ > <<<Hi Carole, > > As you have probably noticed I have been missing from any communications > for > quite some time, there have been several reasons, the two foremost being > that > > a) (snip) > b) I ...could not get my e-mail to work, after a few months of > messing around > I finally conceded and had to buy a new and faster modem and am now up > and > running, the trouble is that I now have 1400 e-mails to wade through!! > > Anyway, that's not what you wanted to hear. Thanks for the interesting > e-mail, I followed it up by looking on various internet search sites but > could find no reference to the address or telephone number under the > surname > of Dutton. The Sherborne branch of the family are refered to in the > 'Duttons of Dutton', this you already knew. So, I telephoned the number > and > chatted to a lady for some five or ten minutes and she confirmed that > the > message was quite correct and that her son (who was at work) has been > trying > to contact any Duttons. He is in fact a Dutton heir albeit but is > called > Byron Hadleigh and he has got a wealth of information, books, > photographs > etc, which he gained from his Grandmother (who is in her 90's). I will > call > him later and e-mail you with the results. > > Regards to you > > Colin > > p.s. you can flash this out on the rootsweb if you like.>>> > > Hmmmm. Now, I wonder what we might learn from Byron Hadleigh!!?? > > Carole
COLIN's back! Yeaaaaaaaaa! And now we have a BARON!! Think I've died and gone to heaven! ;-)))))))) I remember last year about this time.....we had all those gorgeous pictures from Colin and "the CHART!" What wonderful excitement! What terrific new "stuff" might this Baron come up with! Guess he's not on the internet or he would have tripped over us a long time ago. Tantalizing, indeed. Phyllis -----Original Message----- From: Carole Dutton Malisiak [mailto:malisiak@midohio.net] Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 1999 6:16 PM To: DUTTON-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Baron Sherborne Hello all, Yesterday, someone left this tantalizing message in my guestbook on my home page. So, I asked Doug what he thought about it as he has been to England before and perhaps would know if this were legitimate. Sometime later, I thought, ask Colin, too--he lives there. He ought to know! After a long absence from our LIST (for personal reasons), I was surprised that Colin responded. His investigative work is reported below. ------------------------- Forwarded to Colin <<<Dear Doug, What do you make of this message left in my guestbook on my home page? Does this seem like a legitimate address to you? Is this a hoax? Or is this for real? Is there a Baron Sherborne? Name: BARON SHERBORNE E-mail address: NONE Homepage URL http://NONE? Comments: I now head the Duttons of Sherborne not by blood but by title and devotion. I am interested to hear from other Duttons as my family are all but extinct. add: 45 Sherborne Cheltenham GLOS GL54 3DH ENGLAND I have the largest collection of books and photographs in England. tel/fax 01451 810860(england) Monday October 11th 1999 07:02:42 http://books.dreambook.com/dutton/second.html Carole>>> ------------------ <<<Hi Carole, As you have probably noticed I have been missing from any communications for quite some time, there have been several reasons, the two foremost being that a) (snip) b) I ...could not get my e-mail to work, after a few months of messing around I finally conceded and had to buy a new and faster modem and am now up and running, the trouble is that I now have 1400 e-mails to wade through!! Anyway, that's not what you wanted to hear. Thanks for the interesting e-mail, I followed it up by looking on various internet search sites but could find no reference to the address or telephone number under the surname of Dutton. The Sherborne branch of the family are refered to in the 'Duttons of Dutton', this you already knew. So, I telephoned the number and chatted to a lady for some five or ten minutes and she confirmed that the message was quite correct and that her son (who was at work) has been trying to contact any Duttons. He is in fact a Dutton heir albeit but is called Byron Hadleigh and he has got a wealth of information, books, photographs etc, which he gained from his Grandmother (who is in her 90's). I will call him later and e-mail you with the results. Regards to you Colin p.s. you can flash this out on the rootsweb if you like.>>> Hmmmm. Now, I wonder what we might learn from Byron Hadleigh!!?? Carole
Having been at Sherborne House in Sherborne as recently as two weeks ago, I can confirm that there still is no Baron Sherborne and that the line is officially extinct. However, Lodge Park in Sherborne, the former hunting lodge of the last Earl Sherborne, has just been opened by the National Trust as a memorial to the family and as an example of 18th century architecture. It is still being furnished, and the Trust is holding many family artifacts until HVAC is completed and it is safe to put them in the lodge. The Deacon of the church that is attached to Sherborne House told me that a young man showed up several months ago claiming to be a Dutton heir and sporting some sort of ring that he said proved it, but the Deacon said that he was skeptical. When the last Earl Sherborne died in the mid-80s an extensive search was made to find a close heir (he had no children, and his only sibling, Juliet, never married.). regards, Tony Dutton Boca Raton, FL >>> Carole Dutton Malisiak <malisiak@midohio.net> 10/12/99 06:07PM >>> Hello all, Yesterday, someone left this tantalizing message in my guestbook on my home page. So, I asked Doug what he thought about it as he has been to England before and perhaps would know if this were legitimate. Sometime later, I thought, ask Colin, too--he lives there. He ought to know! After a long absence from our LIST (for personal reasons), I was surprised that Colin responded. His investigative work is reported below. ------------------------- Forwarded to Colin <<<Dear Doug, What do you make of this message left in my guestbook on my home page? Does this seem like a legitimate address to you? Is this a hoax? Or is this for real? Is there a Baron Sherborne? Name: BARON SHERBORNE E-mail address: NONE Homepage URL http://NONE? Comments: I now head the Duttons of Sherborne not by blood but by title and devotion. I am interested to hear from other Duttons as my family are all but extinct. add: 45 Sherborne Cheltenham GLOS GL54 3DH ENGLAND I have the largest collection of books and photographs in England. tel/fax 01451 810860(england) Monday October 11th 1999 07:02:42 http://books.dreambook.com/dutton/second.html Carole>>> ------------------ <<<Hi Carole, As you have probably noticed I have been missing from any communications for quite some time, there have been several reasons, the two foremost being that a) (snip) b) I ...could not get my e-mail to work, after a few months of messing around I finally conceded and had to buy a new and faster modem and am now up and running, the trouble is that I now have 1400 e-mails to wade through!! Anyway, that's not what you wanted to hear. Thanks for the interesting e-mail, I followed it up by looking on various internet search sites but could find no reference to the address or telephone number under the surname of Dutton. The Sherborne branch of the family are refered to in the 'Duttons of Dutton', this you already knew. So, I telephoned the number and chatted to a lady for some five or ten minutes and she confirmed that the message was quite correct and that her son (who was at work) has been trying to contact any Duttons. He is in fact a Dutton heir albeit but is called Byron Hadleigh and he has got a wealth of information, books, photographs etc, which he gained from his Grandmother (who is in her 90's). I will call him later and e-mail you with the results. Regards to you Colin p.s. you can flash this out on the rootsweb if you like.>>> Hmmmm. Now, I wonder what we might learn from Byron Hadleigh!!?? Carole
Hello all, Yesterday, someone left this tantalizing message in my guestbook on my home page. So, I asked Doug what he thought about it as he has been to England before and perhaps would know if this were legitimate. Sometime later, I thought, ask Colin, too--he lives there. He ought to know! After a long absence from our LIST (for personal reasons), I was surprised that Colin responded. His investigative work is reported below. ------------------------- Forwarded to Colin <<<Dear Doug, What do you make of this message left in my guestbook on my home page? Does this seem like a legitimate address to you? Is this a hoax? Or is this for real? Is there a Baron Sherborne? Name: BARON SHERBORNE E-mail address: NONE Homepage URL http://NONE? Comments: I now head the Duttons of Sherborne not by blood but by title and devotion. I am interested to hear from other Duttons as my family are all but extinct. add: 45 Sherborne Cheltenham GLOS GL54 3DH ENGLAND I have the largest collection of books and photographs in England. tel/fax 01451 810860(england) Monday October 11th 1999 07:02:42 http://books.dreambook.com/dutton/second.html Carole>>> ------------------ <<<Hi Carole, As you have probably noticed I have been missing from any communications for quite some time, there have been several reasons, the two foremost being that a) (snip) b) I ...could not get my e-mail to work, after a few months of messing around I finally conceded and had to buy a new and faster modem and am now up and running, the trouble is that I now have 1400 e-mails to wade through!! Anyway, that's not what you wanted to hear. Thanks for the interesting e-mail, I followed it up by looking on various internet search sites but could find no reference to the address or telephone number under the surname of Dutton. The Sherborne branch of the family are refered to in the 'Duttons of Dutton', this you already knew. So, I telephoned the number and chatted to a lady for some five or ten minutes and she confirmed that the message was quite correct and that her son (who was at work) has been trying to contact any Duttons. He is in fact a Dutton heir albeit but is called Byron Hadleigh and he has got a wealth of information, books, photographs etc, which he gained from his Grandmother (who is in her 90's). I will call him later and e-mail you with the results. Regards to you Colin p.s. you can flash this out on the rootsweb if you like.>>> Hmmmm. Now, I wonder what we might learn from Byron Hadleigh!!?? Carole
Hi to all the cousins and potential cousins and even the wannabe cousins. Since the subject of MA John is coming up again, I thought I should toss in the ring what little I do know. It might help save a bit of useless work on someone's part. I am as eager as anyone to find out ANYTHING factual on MA John but there sure are a bunch of (false?) rumors being passed around, some of them, apparently, for a couple of hundred years, or so. We do know that a MR. DUTTON was listed in the margin of Gov. Winthrup's 1630 log book. And we do know that a John DUTTON was listed a couple of times in the 1630s court records of MA. And that's about all we can prove - at least that I'm aware of. Below you will notice that John supposedly came in 1630 aboard the ship "Comet" with Gov. Winthrup. We can also prove that Gov. Winthrup did bring a fleet to MA in 1630. However, you all may be interested in knowing I have published, printed "evidence?" that John came to this country aboard each of the following ships: "LION", and/or "COMET", and/or "ANNE" - take your choice. If you will go to: http://members.aol.com/dcurtin1/gene/winthrop.htm you will notice that Gov. Winthrup's 1630 fleet consisted of 11 vessels - none of which were the LION or COMET or ANNE. So much for that "evidence?" Dick Dutton ====================================================== Edward Dutton wrote: > -----Original Message----- > Subject: Duttons in MA & GA > > > Thank you so very much for your response. I plan next week to visit the LDS history center here in Placerville. > Also now that I have some counties in MA to check into it is a good lead. > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > From areduton@coffey.com > > I have another reference regard WILLIAM H. DUTTON FAMILY, > written by William H. Dutton, Jr., completed by Ralph E. Davison. > Book for and microfilm copy. A Ralph Davison of Des Moines, Iowa > donated the book and scribbled his address on a first page. The > microfilm copy was made 10-26-77. > > The author states that Thomas, page about 21 (after an attempt to give > a history of English ancestors), he relates that John Dutton came to this > country in 1630 on the ship "Comet" with Governor Winthrop. Mrs. John > Dutton followed a year later . . . Thomas Dutton, son . . . among the > early residents of Reading Massachusetts, Woburn, and Billerica. > His wife was Mary Neeld; they had sons Thomas, Josiah, Robert, and > Samuel. > > Since this appears to contract some Cope history, I think it might be > interesting to toss it on to Dutton-L to see what will erupt. > > He apparently brings in the connection to William H. Dutton on page 25, > or after some documents following page 25, and I do not have the those > pages. The microfilm rental will probably be less than $5 and will take > two or three weeks to get. The fiche are usually very cheap, but some > times take forever to get, unless they have them in stock.
Good Morning Beth, Yes, all of your data agrees with mine with the possible exception of Joseph's birth place - we can quibble over that. The CT connection is definitely correct (see Misc. notes below for Joseph). The maiden name of Joseph's first wife (and my 6G Grandmother) was Rebecca MERRIAM daughter of William & Elizabeth (BREED) MERRIAM. When he married her, she was the widow of Samuel FITCH. Probably the most frequently used method by genealogists to denote this situation is to give her name at that time as Rebecca (MERRIAM) FITCH. Note the use of upper case letters which is reserved for surnames. Given names (First & middle & 3rd & 4th & nick [pet] names etc.) should never be in all caps, and I would suggest that when indicating genealogy data that surnames should always be in all caps. It eliminates a lot of confusion. Dick ============================================== Genpia@aol.com wrote: > Hi Dick, do you have the following information about Joseph? I have > documentation of Joseph's marriage to Rebecca Fitch found in the Genealogical > History of the Town of Reading, Mass. from 1639 to 1874, Page 63. Joseph and > Rebecca Fitch married in 1685 in Reading, Massachusetts. They had a daughter > Rebecca (Rebekah) DUTTON b. August 13, 1686 in Billerica. Documented in > Vital Records of Billerica, Massachusetts to the year 1850, NEHGS. I am > not sure where I got the Connecticut information. Is the Conn. information > correct? Beth > > Joseph DUTTON 1660/61 - 1732/33 b: January 25, 1660/61 in Reading, > Middlesex County, Massachusetts, USA d: January 24, 1732/33 in East > Haddam, Connecticut, USA > +Rebecca FITCH ======================================================= Name: Joseph DUTTON Sr.1, 805, M Birth: 25 Jan 1661 Woburn, Middlesex, MA2 Death: 24 Jan 1734 East Haddam, Middlesex, CT Occupation: Builder Father: Thomas DUTTON Sr., 287, M (~1619/1622-1687) Mother: Susannah (PALMER?), 288, F (~1626-1684) Other spouses: Mary (CUTLER) SMITH (widow), 807, F Misc. Notes Moved to Lyme CT bet Jan 1694 and Oct 1696 Moved from Lyme, CT to E. Haddam, CT in 1696. Purchased land in Wallingford in 1718 & 1719 which he gave to his sons. --Other Fields WILL: Date: 1 SEP 1733 Place: Haddam, CT. Will proved 14 Feb 1734 mentions his daughter Rebecca GATES and a son-in -law, Mathew Smith, probably husband of a daughter not here given. Mary Smith signed as a witness. Research History of Wallingford CT p.125 Harftford Times answer The American Genealogist, Vol. 18 p. 207 Early CT Probates, Vol 3 pp. 44, 45 The American Genealogist, Vol. 19 pp. 206, 207 "Hinman's First Settlers of Connecticut", p.210. D.A.R. #192065 "The Genealogies and Estates of Charlestown, MA 1629-1818" by Thomas Bellows Wyman (New England History Press, Somersworth, reprinted 1982.): DUTTON, Joseph. 1. Son of Thomas of Reading; m. Mary Smith 12/7/1693. Marriage: 19 Aug 1685 Reading, MA1 Spouse: Rebecca MERRIAM widow FITCH1, 806, F Birth: 21 Oct 1662 Lynn, MA1 Death: 17 Sep 1693 Reading, MA1 Father: William MERRIAM, 2031, M (1628-1689) Mother: Elizabeth BREED, 2032, F (1626-<1676) Other spouses: Samuel FITCH, 1372, M Research History of Wallingford CT p.125 Harftford Times answer The American Genealogist, Vol. 18 p. 207 Early CT Probates, Vol 3 pp. 44, 45 The American Genealogist, Vol. 19 pp. 206, 207 Children 1 F: Rebecca DUTTON1, 808, F Birth: 13 Aug 1686 Billerica, Middlesex, MA1 Death: 1749 East Haddam, Middlesex, Ct Spouse: Deacon Daniel GATES, 809, M Marriage: 15 Apr 1705 East Haddam, Middlesex, Ct 2 M: David DUTTON, 101292, M Birth: abt 1687 3 M: Thomas DUTTON, 101293, M Birth: abt 1688 4 M: Joseph DUTTON Jr.1, 823, M Birth: 31 Jul 1690 Reading, Middlesex, MA Sources 1. Archibald F. Bennett, The Ancestory of Joseph Smith the Prophet, The Utah Genealogical and Historical Magazine, April, 1929. 2. Gilbert Cope, Genealogy of the DUTTON Family of Pennsylvania, F.S. Hiickman, Printer, West Chester, PA, 1871, Higginson Genealogical Books, Salem, MA, 1997. Created: 11 Oct 1999 Please send any corrections or additions to: Richard A. Dutton - 325 Beal Parkway, Fort Walton Beach, FL 32548-3956 Phone: 850-862-3327 FAX: 850-864-1444 E-mail: rad@emcst.com
-----Original Message----- Subject: Duttons in MA & GA Thank you so very much for your response. I plan next week to visit the LDS history center here in Placerville. Also now that I have some counties in MA to check into it is a good lead. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From areduton@coffey.com I have another reference regard WILLIAM H. DUTTON FAMILY, written by William H. Dutton, Jr., completed by Ralph E. Davison. Book for and microfilm copy. A Ralph Davison of Des Moines, Iowa donated the book and scribbled his address on a first page. The microfilm copy was made 10-26-77. The author states that Thomas, page about 21 (after an attempt to give a history of English ancestors), he relates that John Dutton came to this country in 1630 on the ship "Comet" with Governor Winthrop. Mrs. John Dutton followed a year later . . . Thomas Dutton, son . . . among the early residents of Reading Massachusetts, Woburn, and Billerica. His wife was Mary Neeld; they had sons Thomas, Josiah, Robert, and Samuel. Since this appears to contract some Cope history, I think it might be interesting to toss it on to Dutton-L to see what will erupt. He apparently brings in the connection to William H. Dutton on page 25, or after some documents following page 25, and I do not have the those pages. The microfilm rental will probably be less than $5 and will take two or three weeks to get. The fiche are usually very cheap, but some times take forever to get, unless they have them in stock.
I am interested in the Thomas Dutton who died about 1797 and seemed to have considerable relations with a James Reed. His children, or at least Jesse, had some relationship with a Carey family from whom I am descended also. The Reeds, Careys and Duttons all lived in Sussex Co., DE., somewhere between Milton and Georgetown somewhere in the vicinity of what is now the Redden State Forest. Is this your family? Johnita dave wrote: > > Hi, Dutton Cousins! > > I know very little about my lineage on the Dutton side of the family. > Most documentation has been on my mother's family ... Black, Mason, > Manlove, Lank, Lingo, Davis, Johnson, Martin(Marten) and Parker. My > father's family is less extensive. My grandfather was Capt. David > Thomas Dutton (4/4/1867 - 5/20/1938) who was married to Eliza Jane > Wilson (9/15/1883 - 5/29/1970. My grandfather had one brother that I > know of ... Zedic C. Dutton (8/31/1861 - 4/12/1930). I believe their > father (my great grandfather) was Robert Dutton (1822 - 1/31/1884) who > was married to Sarah H. Dickerson (5/1/1834 - 2/8/1910). I also believe > my great grandfather had a brother, James H. Dutton (8/2/1817 - > 4/11/1884). Their father (my great,great grandfather)was Truitt Dutton > (no dates) who was married to Elizabeth (2/6/1792 - 12/31/1890). I know > the dates are accurate, but I can't vouch for the actual line of > descent. These people lived in Sussex County in and near Georgetown and > Milton, Delaware. If anyone has any information on these or any > Delaware Duttons, I would greatly appreciate hearing from them. > > Truly, > David W. Dutton, Jr.