Hi to all my dear cousins, DUTTONs, DUNTONs & Zachariah DUTTONs (proved and potential). The bad news is that I have been diagnosed with MDS, a rare but fatal disorder of the bone marrow. There is no cure and no real treatment. In the short time since the diagnoses the disease has already progressed to full blown Leukemia. I start on chemo Monday but the outlook is not good. SO BE IT! Other than the obvious, my main problem is that I have no family member or close personal friend interested in genealogy or DUTTON Heritage. To try to assure that all the work that I have put into this project is not lost and wasted I have uploaded my entire master list of 249,430 connected individuals to the RootsWeb's WorldConnect Program. Of those 249,430 individuals, 34,466 are blood relatives. This file can be found at: http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=dickdutton Feel free to use this data in any responsible manner to try to connect all our cousins worldwide. The data is not perfect. The only data I can personally guarantee is my direct line from me to Thomas Sr. (abt 1619/1622-1687). Most of the rest is a compilation of data researched and documented by a large number of very fine genealogists. The areas of known and obvious problems are in the medieval times from data derived from the LDS Ancestral File - so Beware! Carole Dutton Malisiak probably has a better handle on this area of our distant heritage than anyone else I know. Now, for those of you who have been long standing supporters and contributors to my efforts (you know who you are) I have the following offer - a personal gedcom of my master file. Zipped the gedcom is 10,250 K. If you would like a copy, send the request directly to me at: rad@emcst.com Requests posted to the List will be ignored. If you use one of the cheap ISP's (such as Juno) that refuses to accept attachments, don't bother to ask. We'll just have to see what happens the first time I try to send an attachment that size to an AOL address. Also you need to be sure your genealogy program is capable of importing a 249,430 gedcom. I've heard bad things along these lines about Family Tree Maker for Windows. Requests will be filled as health and time permit. Happy Hunting Gang, Dick Dutton

I received this from another list and thought it was worth sharing. I'm sure there are others that could be added, from our own experiences! Murphy's Genealogy Laws a. The will you need is in a safe onboard the Titanic b. You finally find the wedding record for your gggrandfather only to discover he married Mary SMITH whose father was John SMITH and mother was Mary JONES! c. You have finally found the information you needed to solve the family mystery you have been working on for 2 years and your elderly aunt says "I could have told you that!" d. You find an old family photo album and upon close examination, there are no names on the pictures. e. You learn that your great grandmother's family bible (passed down through the family for 3 generations) was sold at an estate sale in New York City. f. You find your family in the census and write to the county where they lived for 40 years, only to receive a letter stating all the county records burned. g. You learn there is a county history on microfilm of the county your ancestors originated. It has 16000 pages and is not indexed. h. The public ceremony in which your distinguished ancestor participated and at which the platform collapsed under him, turned out to be a hanging.

Film 444790, 1850 Pennsylvania, Philadelphia County, (excluding city) part, Southwark Wards 4-6. Page 317, 4th Ward, Southwark, 4 Sep 1850, page 317, Dwg 1089, fam 1268. Isaac Dutton age 38, Carpenter val 34,000 b. Penn. Dutton children: Susan age 12, female; Eliza age 10 female, William L. age 8, George Wash. Dutton age 3, and Amelia Bodette age 56--all born Pennsylvania. Page 362, Dwg 299, fam 362, 4th Ward Southward, 5th Aug 1850, Susan Dutton age 64 born Pennsylvania Henrietta Dutton age 42 born Pennsylvania They could be associated with Isaac Smith age 52 and his spouse Elizabeth, family 361 in dwg 299. Page 424, 6th Ward, Southwark in the county of Philadelphia, 16 Aug 1850, Dwg 134, Family 159: Samuel P. Dutton age 38, House Carpenter val 7000, born Deleware; Margaqreta age 33 born Penn; Isaac age 14, William H. 12, Maryann 8, Henrietta 6, Suauan age 4 female, Margareta age 1, all born Pennsylvania. Henrietta Whitehall age 40, nurse. FILM #444781, Philadelphia County, Philadelphia City, Pine, Spruce, Walnut, and Chestnut Wards. Page 277, Pine Ward, 27 July 1850, Dwg 93, fam 147. Joseph L. Dutton age 63, Carpenter valued at 45000, Joseph born Pennsylvania. Susan Dutton age 45 born NJ. SEE COPE page 53, #88. Page 413, Spruce Ward, 22 August, Dwg 893. Rosanna Dutton age 28 born Pennsylvania. She is with a large family headed by perhaps Charles Willing age 37, valued 200,000, and several other surnames, most born Pennsylvania. Page 481, Chestnut Ward HOTEL Samuel Dutton, Merchant, age 40, born Massachusetts. I have not yet report about 12 families of Dutton on this 1850 census. I believe the Joseph L. Dutton, above, was reported to DUTTON-L earlier by me.

Is the John and Sarah Dutton you speak of this John and Sarah Dutton: Descendants of John Dutton 1 John Dutton b: Bef. 1783 d: Unknown .. +Sarah Morris b: Bef. 1783 m: Unknown d: Unknown Father: Joseph Morris Mother: Comfort 15 Oct 1801. Sussex Co., DE., Deeds Vol X-22, pgs 165-166. John Dutton, and wife, Sally, William Donovan and wife, Polly, and James Reed and wife, Elizabeth, to Comfort Morris, all of Sussex Co., DE. For 24 pounds part of 250 acres of land. Whereas Joseph Morris (little?) (Father of the aforesaid Sally, Polly and Elizabeth) in his lifetime became lawfully of a certain tract parcel of land in the County of Sussex aforesaid and being so thereof seized died intestate leaving issue eleven children to whom the said land by the laws of the Delaware State descended now to the said Sally Dutton, Polly Donovan and Elizabeth Reed being daughters to and heirs and legal representatives of the said Joseph Morris dec'd have have together with their husbands full right, title, power and authority to sell, set over, and convey their and each of their undivided proportionable parts of shears of the afsd intestate lands & premises containing by estimation two hundred and fifty acres. Land is bounded by lands of Joshua Morris, Zadock Lindal, the heirs of land of John Hand dec'd and the heirs of Edmund Reed dec'd, and John Riley's land. Wits., Daniel Rodney and Burton West. Johnita Sally A. Shreeve wrote: > > Seth Britton should be age 50, not 20 as he was born in Massachusetts > in 1800. > > His wife is Mary Dutton, born in 1821 in Milton, Sussex, Delaware, a > daughter of John Dutton and Sariah (Sarah). John and Sariah had four > children - Mary, Jeremiah born in DE in 1828; John Green or John > Creen, and Charlotte who married a Maxwell. I do not know their > births. However, Green could be the John Green which would make him > born about 1839. > > I do not know whose child the Sarah Dutton that is age four belongs to > nor can > substantiate any connection to Evl. Dutton. > > Sally Shreeve

Seth Britton should be age 50, not 20 as he was born in Massachusetts in 1800. His wife is Mary Dutton, born in 1821 in Milton, Sussex, Delaware, a daughter of John Dutton and Sariah (Sarah). John and Sariah had four children - Mary, Jeremiah born in DE in 1828; John Green or John Creen, and Charlotte who married a Maxwell. I do not know their births. However, Green could be the John Green which would make him born about 1839. I do not know whose child the Sarah Dutton that is age four belongs to nor can substantiate any connection to Evl. Dutton. Sally Shreeve

-----Original Message----- From: Sally A. Shreeve <cassas@micron.net> To: DUTTON-L@rootsweb.com <DUTTON-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Monday, November 08, 1999 10:31 PM Subject: 1850 Illinois Duttons on Census of Lee Co. >Seth Britton should be age 50, not 20 as he was born in Massachusetts >in 1800. ALL I HAVE ARE MY NOTES, so it could be a reading error or copy error. I failed to copy the data on the Britton family including Mary's age. I would suspect that Sarah and Green Dutton ages 4 and 11 are related, but have no other data. Some of the 1850 census records are starting to appear on the net. I will patch your data into my notes.

Lee County is in center, northern Illinois about third county south of Wisconsin. 1850 Census, Illinois, Lee County, Wyoming Town (ship), 1 October 1850, page 141(b). Index has 142. Dwelling 89: Sarah Dutton is age 4 born Illinois, with Seth Britton age 20, Mary and their family. Seth was born in Massachusetts. Dwelling 91: Evl. S. Dutton age 44 farmer born NY; Celina age 37 born NY; Mary age 11, Star a male age 9, Martha age 7, and Harriet age 4 all born New York; child Nancy age 1 born Illinois. Dwelling 97: Green Dutton age 11 born Illinois; with Isaac Robinson family. =-=-=-= 1860 Census, Illinois, Lee County, town of Hamilton, post office Amboy, page 376, dwelling 1053. Henry Dutton age 45 farmer born Pennsylvania; real estate 1000, personal property 1000. Mary age 40 born Pennsylvania. Leonard age 15 born Illinois (but CNL family 1850) Mary age 8, and John age 4, born Illinois.

Good afternoon to the DUTTON list members, I have the subject THOMAS DUTTON with the dubious honor of having two wives at the same time. I show that THOMAS was born September 11, 1646, in Reading, MA, a son of THOMAS and SUSANNA (PALMER) DUTTON. He married REBECCA DRAPER January 1, 1678/79, daughter of THOMAS and REBECCA (BRABROOK) DRAPER. He also managed to marry, on the same date, REBECCA BRABROOK, a daughter of JOHN and ELIZABETH (Surname Unknown) BRABROOK. Obviously, one of the marriages is incorrect. If anyone on the list has any information that they are willing to share on which REBECCA was THOMAS' wife, it would be appreciated. Thanks in advance. Rick in Thailand

Dutton list, I was just nosing around today on http://genforum.fammilytreemaker.com and thought I would try a global search for some names. Odard was one I tried. I found Odard I de Logis (born about 1099). This was from a lineage for a Kirkbride family name. Odard's son was Adam I of Wigton. I have no clue where that or Logis might or be. I didn't realize it was such a popular name. They're everywhere. Ron

I forgot to mention another tidbit. We believe King W. Dutton was so named because we believe his mothers maiden name was King, but we have not been able to verify this at 100%. Thx, Andy

Hello Duttons, I am the brother of Ron Dutton who started this last round of questions regarding a King Dutton. There is a quandry regarding Kingsman Dutton and his wives but I would like to throw back out the original question Ron had when this all started. This is regarding the 19th Century and not the 18th Century. We have a possible King Dutton in our direct lineage. King W. Dutton is listed on the 1850 Athens County, Canaan Twshp. census. He was 7yrs old. We believe he may be a brother of or 3Great Grandfather Enos Dutton and son of out 4Great Grandfather William, who had died prior to this census. They moved from Athens Ohio sometime in the 1850's since they are listed in Iowa in the 1860's. If I find anything in my research regarding a Kingsman Dutton I will post but any information anyone can provide regarding King W. Dutton and his father would be appreciated, especially if it is William Dutton. Thanks, Andy Dutton

Hello All!! By the kindness of Leo van de Pas who provided this information on Gen-Med, we have learned more connections for the Dutton family; however, we will have to look up dates ourselves. I think that the citation would look something like this: Pas, Leo van de. "The Ancestors of Prince Charles, the Prince of Wales." in Gen-Medieval-L@rootsweb.com, Subject line: "Randall Brereton." 2 Nov 1999. In a private post, Leo provided some dates and informed that he obtained this info from: "The Lineage and Ancestry of H.R.H. Prince Charles, Prince of Wales, Edinburgh, 1977. by Gerald Paget. and Burke's Landed Gentry. Carole ---------------------- These are ancestors of Prince Charles, the Prince of Wales. Best wishes Leo van de Pas Randle Beresford, of Ipsontes married Catherine Bulkeley \ Randle Brereton, of Ipstones married Emma Carrington \ Sir Randle Brereton, of Ipstones (d aft 1505) married Eleanor Dutton dtr of Peter Dutton, of Hatton and Elizabeth Foulshurst, of Crewe \ Sir Randle Brereton, of Malpas married Isabel Butler \ Elizabeth Brereton married James Starky \ Alice Starky married Thomas Skrimshire \ Sir Thomas Skrimshire, of Aquilate married Anne Sneyd \ Anne Skrimshire, of Aquilate married George Browne \ Thomas Browne, of Shredicote married Mary Carr (or Coe) \ Anne Browne married Samuel Peploe, Bishop of Chester \ Anne Peploe married James Bayley \ Elizabeth Bayley married Sir John Parker Mosley, 1st Baronet \ Frances Mary Mosley 1770-1844 \ Oswald Smith, of Blendon Hall 1794-1863 \ Frances Dora Smith 1830-1922 \ Claude George Bowes-Lyon, 14th Earl of Strathmore & Kinghorne 1855-1944 \ Lady Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon, HM the Queen Mother 1900- \ Elizabeth II, Queen of Great Britain 1926- \ Charles, Prince of Wales 1948 Source Gerald Paget, Ancestors etc. of Prince Charles

Hi Bob, Curt, Karen, and all, I have been out-of-town all week and arrived home yesterday, so, I am just catching up on my mail. It looks like the data shows that the 1759 Kingsman Dutton is not the same Kingsman as the one who married Anne Routh, 1736-7. He could be a son of the 1736-7 Kingsman, who amazingly has only two children that Cope felt comfortable enough to report. I think it is more likely that there were other children. The birthdate of Kingsman, 1759, goes along with that of David, b. abt 1756 (Cope:p.49). Even though Kingsman (1736-7) was found to be "no member of our religious society," Anne became a member in 1748; thus, Kingsman may have been reaccepted into the society. I have a Belmont County friend who has offered to look up my Kingsman Dutton's on the Hinshaw CD. I hope she finds something helpful! I will let you know when she writes back. This is quite a mystery! We just have too many wives for Kingsman Dutton! Carole ----------------------- Curt Rowe wrote: > > As far as I know, the Athens County Duttons were all descendants of Kingsman > Dutton (1759-1837) and Mary Craig. My mother's family lived there until the > 1970's. > > In addition to Samuel's recollections I have a documented marriage for > Kingsman Dutton and Ruth Watson on 27 Dec 1756 at Old Swedes Church, > Wilmington, Delaware. Other than the marriage I have no other primary > documents. I do, however, put a lot of faith in Samuel's ability to > remember his grandfather, although with all those Kingsman/Kinsmans he may > have confused the recorder. I suppose it's possible that there may be a > missing generation such that Kingsman (married 1756) is an unknown son of > Kingsman (ca. 1711-1765) born right after their marriage. OK 9 months after. > That would have been 1737 so he would have been 20 in 1756. I'm sure there > is some sort of connection given the uniqueness of the name Kingsman. > > Curt Rowe > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: RFDBOB@aol.com [mailto:RFDBOB@aol.com] > > Sent: Monday, November 01, 1999 9:37 AM > > To: Curt Rowe > > Cc: DUTTON-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Kingsman DUTTON'S Wives (descendant of John and Mary > > (DARLINGTON)DUTTON > > > > > > Curt, in your e-mail of 8/28/88, was the Samuel DUTTON you mentioned that > > dictated a document stating that Kingsman DUTTON married a Ruth > > (not Mary as > > in my previous e-mail 11/1/99) WATSON a descendant of PA John and Mary > > (DARLINGTON) DUTTON, or could he have been a descendant of the > > Athens County, > > Ohio DUTTONS? > > > > > > Bob Dutton > >

Bob Dutton, You may obtain an excellent copy of Gilbert Cope's book, Genealogy of the Dutton Family of Pennsylvania, from Higginson Genealogical Books, 14 Derby Square, Salem, MA 01970, 978-745-7170. I don't remember the exact price, but it wasn't too expensive, if I remember correctly. Jim Dutton

Illinois Public Domain Land Tract Sales Database http://www2.sos.state.il.us/cgi-bin/land Carole

Hi DUTTON Cousins, The Kingsman DUTTON who was married to Anne ROUTH until he died according to Chester County, PA. probate records, had the following brothers: 1. John DUTTON, b 1705, in 1733 married Prudence REYNOLDS, b 1713. Cope No. 7 lists children but none named Kingsman. 2. Jacob DUTTON, b 1713, in 1741 married Hannah ?, b abt 1717. Cope No.11 lists children but none named Kingsman. 3. Joseph DUTTON, b 1715, in 1742 married Elizabeth SMITH, b abt 1719. Cope No.12 lists children but none named Kingsman. 4. Robert DUTTON, b 1718, married CROSBY ?, b abt 1722. Cope No.13 lists children but none named Kingsman. 5. James DUTTON, b 1724, in 1751 married Hannah PRICE, b abt 1728. Cope No. 14 lists children but none named Kingsman. 6. Issac DUTTON, b1726, in 1750 married Mary COATS, b abt 1730. Cope No. 15 lists childen but none named Kingsman. The above information is from the LDS files and Gilbert Cope's book, "Genealogy of the Dutton Family of Pennsylvania". I have no additional proof. There are no children listed for any of these brothers of Kingsman's. Does anyone ha

Hi Dutton Cousins, Does anyone know of a source that will duplicate a copy of Gilbert Cope's book, "Genealogy of the Dutton Family of Pennsylvania?" By this I mean a copy that is better than borrowing a book and going to the local duplicating store. Does the Library of Congress have a service that will duplicate its books? If so what is the quality? I was able to have a nice, hard bound copy made many years ago by a company that no longer provides this service. Since this book is frequently referred to in e-mail messages, I am sure many would like a copy. Bob Dutton

As far as I know, the Athens County Duttons were all descendants of Kingsman Dutton (1759-1837) and Mary Craig. My mother's family lived there until the 1970's. In addition to Samuel's recollections I have a documented marriage for Kingsman Dutton and Ruth Watson on 27 Dec 1756 at Old Swedes Church, Wilmington, Delaware. Other than the marriage I have no other primary documents. I do, however, put a lot of faith in Samuel's ability to remember his grandfather, although with all those Kingsman/Kinsmans he may have confused the recorder. I suppose it's possible that there may be a missing generation such that Kingsman (married 1756) is an unknown son of Kingsman (ca. 1711-1765) born right after their marriage. OK 9 months after. That would have been 1737 so he would have been 20 in 1756. I'm sure there is some sort of connection given the uniqueness of the name Kingsman. Curt Rowe > -----Original Message----- > From: RFDBOB@aol.com [mailto:RFDBOB@aol.com] > Sent: Monday, November 01, 1999 9:37 AM > To: Curt Rowe > Cc: DUTTON-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Kingsman DUTTON'S Wives (descendant of John and Mary > (DARLINGTON)DUTTON > > > Curt, in your e-mail of 8/28/88, was the Samuel DUTTON you mentioned that > dictated a document stating that Kingsman DUTTON married a Ruth > (not Mary as > in my previous e-mail 11/1/99) WATSON a descendant of PA John and Mary > (DARLINGTON) DUTTON, or could he have been a descendant of the > Athens County, > Ohio DUTTONS? > > > Bob Dutton >

See my web site for more on Kinsman (Kingsman) Dutton: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~amcolan. Let me know if you have any questions, I haven't time to look now. > -----Original Message----- > From: SowardsFam@aol.com [mailto:SowardsFam@aol.com] > Sent: Monday, November 01, 1999 5:40 AM > To: DUTTON-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: Kinsman Dutton > > > In my database I have records of a Kinsman DUTTON in WFT vol 4, > #0264. No > location is mentioned in their data. > > However, it lists Kinsman DUTTON, sr.(born abt 1730) as the son of John > DUTTON, jr. (born abt 1700) and Elizabeth Kinsman (born abt 1700). This > Kinsman DUTTON, sr. married Mary WATSON. Kinsman jr was their > son, born Feb > 5, 1759, died Feb 24, 1837, he married Mary CRAIG. > > Karen Davis Sowards >

The following is an extension and correction of my earlier e-mail on the same subject. I feel more information is in order. Comments concerning information indicating that Kingsman DUTTON'S first married Anne ROUTH (1736) and then married Ruth WATSON (1756), who according to some information was 45 years old at the time and later bore five childdren, the last when she was 53 years old. According to the probate records of Chester County, PA., Kingsman DUTTON, who died in 1765, died without a will, but the County provided me with the following probate records of Kingsman's estate: 1. A Common Bond, dated 29th July 1765 (this is a correction from the 20th), signed by Anne DUTTON, Francis ROUTH, and Humphrey JOHNSON. A Francis ROUTH was Anne's father, but this may be another relative. This was a bond of 200 Pounds for the administration by Anne DUTTON for a true and perfect inventory of the property and credits of Kingsman DUTTON, due one year later (29th July 1966). 2. A True Inventory, dated 16th August 1765, signed by Richard DUTTON and Jonathan RICHARDS. This listed a total value of 77.17.10 Pounds for 31 items of Kingsman DUTTON"ss estate property, including a book of debts. 3. An Accompl (the exact spelling), dated 22 March 1768, signed by Anne DUTTON and one other. This is an accounting of Anne's payments on behalf of Kingsman DUTTON'S estate. The total value was 77.17.10 Pounds, including 24 payments to others, a retention of 14.5.5 Pounds for a "Widows thirds" (presumably by the wife and widow, Anne DUTTON), and a balance of 3.10.10 Pounds. There was an unusual payment of 24 Pounds "By Maintain of School of 2? Younger Children". Kingsman and Anne DUTTON'S two children were 10 and 11 when Kingsman died. Cope states that Kingsman DUTTON'S estate was sold by the Sheriff in 1768. There was no mention of Ruth WATSON or her five children by Kingsman DUTTON anywhere in these probate records These records indicate Kingsman's wife, Anne DUTTON, was the bonded administrator of Kingsman's estate. This seems to indicated that Kingsman was still married to his first wife, Anne (ROUTH) DUTTON, when he died in 1765. The LDS records indicate Kingsman died in 1765 and his wife, Anne, died in 1774. Cope indicates Kingsman died in 1765, and his wife, Anne, was still living in 1774. These records seem to completely discount a second wife for this Kingsman DUTTON, whose first wife was Anne Routh. Curt Rowe (curtrowe@ix.netcom.com) indicated in his e-mail of 10/29/99 that there were other KINGSMANS and KINSMANS in Athens County, Ohio. Maybe the second wife, Ruth WATSON and children, attributed to this Kingsman (whose first wife was Anne ROUTH), was the wife of another Kingsman DUTTON from Athens County, Ohio. Curt, in your e-mail of 8/28/88, was the Samuel DUTTON you mentioned that dictated a document stating that Kingsman DUTTON married a Ruth (not Mary as in my previous e-mail 11/1/99) WATSON a descendant of PA John and Mary (DARLINGTON) DUTTON, or could he have been a descendant of the Athens County, Ohio DUTTONS? Curt, my previous e-mail did not reach you directly because I had a typo in the address. But you received a copy through DUTTON-L@rootsweb.com. Any comments, anyone? Bob Dutton Bob Dutton