Hi Colin - I eagerly await your report on the Byron Hadley visit. If there was ever a "man on the scene" I'd pick for this job....it would certainly be you! So I think I speak for all of us in the US. that we'll be interested in your "take" on the whole story. I was sorry to hear of the limited response to the UK in 2K plans. I've just heard from Carole and she and I are still VERY interesting in coming over......and we promise that our enthusiasm will make up for our limited numbers!! If you're still willing to shepherd a small group around the countryside......you can count us in. Who knows, a smaller more intimate group might prove easier to work with logistically.....and will certainly produce just as much fun and enjoyment as a large herd! <grin> A Jacobean Feast? A tea party? WHATEVER it turns out to be - it will be just as merry and fun filled as those held by Sir Piers! Who knows, when he hears of all the fun, maybe he'll join us! We don't want to miss this opportunity to SEE the old Dutton Manor House and their churches and their graves.....and Chester and Sherborne...and to meet you and the other assembled cousins.....and to soak up lots of merrie ole' England!! WOW----I'm getting excited! Four months to go? How will I ever wait that long!! Phyllis --- packing my bags! -----Original Message----- From: Colin Dutton [mailto:colin.dutton@btinternet.com] Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2000 5:39 PM To: DUTTON-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Sherborne Duttons Hi everyone, Just a quick note to advise you all that I will be going down to meet young Byron Hadley next weekend, Friday 18th to Sunday 20th February. I will off course be armed with my camera, several rolls of film and my video camera and hopefully a small tape recorder (if it still works). I will come back on line when I get back to let you all know how I got on. UKin2K has had a very poor respone, I was under the impression that there were more than just a few Duttons out there who were interested in coming over and sharing some time together. Not to worry, it will still go on, maybe not with the Jacobean Banquet, I don't think there is enough for a banquet, maybe just a tea-party!! I will write again real soon. Regards to you all. Colin

Hi John, Yes, there are many people doing work on the Dutton line. We seem to be a huge bunch. There are cousins in New Zealand, New Guinea, Australia, and all over America as well as in England--all in varying stages of working backward. There are many places to visit in Cheshire and other people will likely tell you more about the churches, maps, Dutton Hall, Sherborne Hall, etc. There are several folks going to England this summer, so, you might want to go when others are going. > > What sources would you > > folks recommend for medieval genealogy studies in Britain to verify and > > augment some of the (dubious) information I get off the web? Also, are > > there any good maps of the area which would show me parishes, townships, > > and other geographical regions of a couple hundred years ago? Sir Peter Leycester, 1673, published "Leycester's Historical Antiquities." This is the definitive work on the Dutton line. The accepted scholarly source for Dutton genealogy is by George Ormerod who used Leycester's work in his "History of the County Palatine and City of Chester" (first published in London: 1819). The Helsby's edition (I think, 1972) is the source accepted by scholars today. Ormerod's book is out of print, it is in the Oversized and Rare Book collection at Ohio State and therefore not accessible to a working person. You can order a copy from the LDS on microfilm (I do not have the film #). Ormerod provided sources for Leycester's work; however, scholars today say that the Dutton line really needs to be done by a SCHOLAR using MODERN SOURCES. (It has been over 300 years since Leycester's work!!) Bits and pieces of genealogy, regarding wives and so forth, may be gleaned from the Complete Peerage (THE source for medieval genealogy). I have begun a project to redocument the medieval Dutton line with modern sources from English court records. While I am not a "genealogy scholar," I have received some guidance from Paul C. Reed, FASG, who is a highly respected medieval scholar. I have managed to redocument the Duttons of Dutton and part of the Duttons of Hatton with the Deputy Keepers Record. You can check out my work at http://www.genealogy.dutton.net. Information marked with a DKR is a modern source. Not all the data has been redocumented, so, be aware of where I put the source info. Eventually, I want to re-document all the data, but it is a BIG job. Do you want to help? Carole - ----------------------------- Curt Rowe wrote: > > You should probably receive a few replies on this one. The Dutton's can be > found in Leycester's Historical Antiquities of which I have made an online > copy on my web site: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~amcolan. Go to the > bottom of the First Dutton's page and you'll find a link to the document. > Also try the Dutton-L list as well. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: John L. Dodd [mailto:JohnLDodd@earthlink.net] > > Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2000 3:06 PM > > To: CHESHIRE-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: [CHS] ancient ancestors > > Greetings: > > > > I have just subscribed to this list in an attempt to obtain > > information about my British ancestors and verify other information I > > got off websources (Ancestry.com and FamilySearch.org). I am going to > > try and get over to England this summer on a genealogy themed trip and > > am trying to get as much data as possible beforehand. Any information > > anyone can give me concerning these folks would be greatly appreciated. > > I was wondering if anyone has done any work on these lines, if there are > > any current descendants around, and how far back anyone has traced the > > lines. Also, of there are any churchyards, etc. we should visit, that > > would be good to know. > > > > DUTTON, Maude, b. 1427 > > John b. 1403 > > Piers (Peter) b. 1367 > > > > SAVAGE, Margaret, b. 1403, of Clifton > > , John, b. 1370, who was married to Maude De > > SWYNNERTON, > > who was born 1365, Barrow, and whose line goes on > > back > > > > MASSEY, Joan, b. 1376 > > > > VENABLES, Dulcia, b. 1396, Kenderton > > father, Sir William, b. 1376, and whose line goes on back. -------------snip------------------ > > > > John L. Dodd > > Orange County, California, USA

You should probably receive a few replies on this one. The Dutton's can be found in Leycester's Historical Antiquities of which I have made an online copy on my web site: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~amcolan. Go to the bottom of the First Dutton's page and you'll find a link to the document. Also try the Dutton-L list as well. > -----Original Message----- > From: John L. Dodd [mailto:JohnLDodd@earthlink.net] > Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2000 3:06 PM > To: CHESHIRE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [CHS] ancient ancestors > > > Greetings: > > I have just subscribed to this list in an attempt to obtain > information about my British ancestors and verify other information I > got off websources (Ancestry.com and FamilySearch.org). I am going to > try and get over to England this summer on a genealogy themed trip and > am trying to get as much data as possible beforehand. Any information > anyone can give me concerning these folks would be greatly appreciated. > I was wondering if anyone has done any work on these lines, if there are > any current descendants around, and how far back anyone has traced the > lines. Also, of there are any churchyards, etc. we should visit, that > would be good to know. > > DUTTON, Maude, b. 1427 > John b. 1403 > Piers (Peter) b. 1367 > > SAVAGE, Margaret, b. 1403, of Clifton > , John, b. 1370, who was married to Maude De > SWYNNERTON, > who was born 1365, Barrow, and whose line goes on > back > > MASSEY, Joan, b. 1376 > > VENABLES, Dulcia, b. 1396, Kenderton > father, Sir William, b. 1376, and whose line goes on back. > > Also, I have two more general questions: What sources would you > folks recommend for medieval genealogy studies in Britain to verify and > augment some of the (dubious) information I get off the web? Also, are > there any good maps of the area which would show me parishes, townships, > and other geographical regions of a couple hundred years ago? > > Thanks in advance. > > John L. Dodd > Orange County, California, USA > > > ==== CHESHIRE Mailing List ==== > Cheshire Lookup Exchange: > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Plains/8555/chs.html >

Hi everyone, Just a quick note to advise you all that I will be going down to meet young Byron Hadley next weekend, Friday 18th to Sunday 20th February. I will off course be armed with my camera, several rolls of film and my video camera and hopefully a small tape recorder (if it still works). I will come back on line when I get back to let you all know how I got on. UKin2K has had a very poor respone, I was under the impression that there were more than just a few Duttons out there who were interested in coming over and sharing some time together. Not to worry, it will still go on, maybe not with the Jacobean Banquet, I don't think there is enough for a banquet, maybe just a tea-party!! I will write again real soon. Regards to you all. Colin

I'm afraid that I can't recognize your Harriet Dutton, but I sure would like to talk about her with you. It's possible that she could be connected to this Dutton family: 1850 Census Marion Co., OH. Montgomery Twp page 41B family 134/134 James Dutton/45/M/laborer/DE Eunice/45/F/DE Patience/21/F/DE Mary/20/F/DE Thomas/18/M/laborer/DE Sarah/16/F/OH Matilda/13/F/OH Jesse/8/M/OH 1860 Census Mahaska Co., IA. Cedar Twp page 182 James Dutton 1870 Census Keokuk Co., IA. Benton Twp 7 Sep 1870 page 279B family 176/177 Jas. Dutton/67/M/W/farmer/300/435/DE E./64/F/W/keeping house/DE R./19/M/W/farm laborer/OH 1870 Census Keokuk Co., IA. Benton Twp 7 Sep 1870 page 279B family 176-176 Jesse Dutton/26/M/W/farm laborer/OH Mary/20/F/W/keeping house/IA Geo./2/W/M/IA Emily/6 mos/F/W/IA/Jan 1870 Census Keokuk Co., IA. Benton Twp 5 Sep 1870 page 274B family 104/105 James Roach/37/W/M/farmer/5000/1235/DE Mary/37/F/W/keeping house/DE Sarah/15/F/W/OH Dallas/14/M/W/farm laborer/IA B./12/M/W/farm laborer/IA Wm/10/M/W/IA Cora/5/F/W/IA Arthur/1/M/W/IA Or maybe more hopefully to the Dutton family I'm looking for: David Dutton and Sarah Carey. Tell me more about her. Many of my family lines went to the Keokuk Co., IA., and Mahaska Co., IA., areas. Johnita Tracy League wrote: > > Hi, > > I am looking for the parents of Harriet L. Dutton b. 4/20/1836 OH and d. 12/22/1907 in Keokuk Co. IA. > > Does anyone have any connections to her? > > Tracy McMullen League

Are any cousin researching this line? ===================== 1. Elvira Dutton was born in 1822 in TN She was married to Thomas S Williams who was born in 1813 in TN on 25 Nov 1841 in , Grainger, TN. Thomas S Williams and Elvira Dutton had the following children: 2 i. James C Williams was born in 1841 in , , TN. +3 ii. Samuel Preston Williams. 4 iii. John W Williams was born in 1846 in , , TN. 5 iv. George F Williams was born in 1848 in , , TN. 6 v. Sarah R Williams was born in 1850 in , , TN. 7 vi. William L Williams was born in 1852 in , , TN. 8 vii. Moreland Williams was born in 1859 in , , TN.

Anyone researching Samuel Dutton of Cazenovia, NY, wife Beulah. Think Asa Dutton born 1805 is his son. Have copy of his will but it doesn't name children. Joanne

Hi, I am looking for the parents of Harriet L. Dutton b. 4/20/1836 OH and d. 12/22/1907 in Keokuk Co. IA. Does anyone have any connections to her? Tracy McMullen League

Hi, Cousins, On "What's New on Cyndi's Lists" is a listing for the Marble Cemetery in Manhattan, New York City (http://www.marblecemetery.org/) which includes a Dutton: Deodatus Dutton, Jr., c.1808, interred in Vault No. 140 on December 16, 1832. Also interred in the same vault were Henry J. Wykoff, Henry S.(G?) Wykoff, and Sophia Wykoff. A rather complete history of the cemetery is provided, together with a listing of everyone who is (or was) interred in their vaults. A very interesting site. Jim Dutton

I am interested in the Georgia/Gwinnett Co. line. My g grandfather William Joshua DUTTON (Will) b. 1868 m. Mary Francis (Fanny) b. 1870 They had abt 11 children. 1. Jonah 2. Mamie 3. Dolly 4. Ethy or Ethie 5. Bertie 6. Alma 7. Myrt 8. Quill 9. Claude 10. Charlie We visited an Uncle John when I was small but I'm not sure if it was my grandmother's brother or her uncle. He seemed older than grandmother to me. Will had a brother called Bud. His wife was Dora but I don't know his given name. They had a son Jack and a daughter Dixie, she had a club foot. I think they had an other daughter but I never meet her. Will and Fanny are buried at Mt. Zion Church in Snellville. More Duttons are buried there but I don't have that info. Next time I go I will make a list of all. I only took pictures of the head stones I need when I first started, not knowing I would need them all at some point. I hope this will link some of us. Jo Anne Seay Holt, Riverdale, Ga.

----- Original Message ----- From: Merv & Jackie Purdy To: auparo@hotmail Cc: DUTTON-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, February 04, 2000 2:42 PM Subject: Duttons in Georgia Hi Audrey. I checked back and you and I have been in contact before. Like you said maybe time to resubmit our family information. My Grandfather was Thomas Absalom Dutton b: 4-1-1875 in Egypt, Effingham Co., GA. he married Mattie Carroll Fryar from Magnolia,Duplin Co..NC His father was Thomas Absalom Dutton b: 6-28-1846 in Bullock Co., GA. he married Eugenia Natalia Foy from Effingham Co., GA. He died 8-30-1875, Marlow, Effingham Co.,GA. He was in Co. I, 54th Georgia Infantry.CSA His parents were Samuel Dutton and Sarah Hagins they were married August 24, 1845 in Bullock co., GA. They also had a daughter Sarah who was born abt. 1848. They are listed in the 1850 census of Bullock co. Also in that census is Henry Dutton age 61 from Mass. a carpenter by trade married to Ann Cocks of GA age 49. Joseph 24 Andrew 21 Will 10 Mary 15 John Welsey 13 Oveton 10 Martha 8 I believe that Samuel was also their son, his age was 29. Hopefully there is someone out there that might have some information on this family. Thank you for your time. Jackie Purdy, Shingle Springs, CA.

Hi Audrey. I checked back and you and I have been in contact before. Like you said maybe time to resubmit our family information. My Grandfather was Thomas Absalom Dutton b: 4-1-1875 in Egypt, Effingham Co., GA. he married Mattie Carroll Fryar from Magnolia,Duplin Co..NC His father was Thomas Absalom Dutton b: 6-28-1846 in Bullock Co., GA. he married Eugenia Natalia Foy from Effingham Co., GA. He died 8-30-1875, Marlow, Effingham Co.,GA. He was in Co. I, 54th Georgia Infantry.CSA His parents were Samuel Dutton and Sarah Hagins they were married August 24, 1845 in Bullock co., GA. They also had a daughter Sarah who was born abt. 1848. They are listed in the 1850 census of Bullock co. Also in that census is Henry Dutton age 61 from Mass. a carpenter by trade married to Ann Cocks of GA age 49. Joseph 24 Andrew 21 Will 10 Mary 15 John Welsey 13 Oveton 10 Martha 8 I believe that Samuel was also their son, his age was 29. Hopefully there is someone out there that might have some information on this family. Thank you for your time. Jackie Purdy, Shingle Springs, CA.

The following are names I found on men who served in the Confederacy from Georgia. All of their ranks were given as Private. The dates are when they enlisted. William J. Dutton 12 Feb. 1862 George W. Dutton 4 Mar. 1862 G.R.Dutton 22 Mar.1862 Thomas Absalom Dutton 6 May 1862 my ancestor William H. Dutton 6 May 1862 I believe this was his brother Z.E.Dutton 6 May 1862 These three were from Bullock & Effingham Co., GA. Chandler Dutton 30 Jan 1864 J.E.Dutton 23 Aug. 1861 Richard S. Dutton 31 May 1861 D.D.Dutton 22 May 1864 Joseph Dutton 19 Dec. 1862 Henry Dutton 24 June 1861 James G.L.Dutton 23 Sept. 1861 John C. Dutton 21 Oct. 1861 Marion 21 Oct. 1861 Maybe this will help someone on the list. Jackie Purdy, Shingle Springs, CA. Searching for Henry Dutton (Mass) Samuel Dutton (Bullock Co. GA) Thomas Absalom Dutton (1) (Bullock Co. & Effingham Co., GA) Thomas Abalom Dutton (2) )Effingham co., GA)

Hello Everyone, I just saw Jackie's post on DUTTON's in Georgia in the Civil War. It is amazing because I have been thinking about re-posting my DUTTON line on the list all day today just in case anyone might have any new information. The Chandler Dutton that Jackie listed in her post is my great-great-grandfather. Chandler served in Co. K, 5th Inf. C.S.A., Upson Guards, during the Civil War. I'm not sure who Chandler's parents were yet, or any other relatives, but I do believe he has a strong connection to the other Dutton's in Georgia at this time. We would appreciate hearing from anyone who might have any other information on these Dutton Families in Georgia. We have previously been in contact with Sue Dutton Rodgers, who thinks that Chandler may be descended from the Jeremiah Dutton line in some way. Here is some information on Chandler's line. Chandler's son, William D. Dutton, is my great-grandfather. Thanks for any help anyone can give. Chandler DUTTON: - b. 1828 in SC. - died Bef. June 1900 in GA. - Parents listed on Census as born in SC. - Married (1) Sarah (?), b. 1829. Children Of Chandler DUTTON and Sarah: 1. Parthenia DUTTON - b. 1852 in GA. 2. Frances C. DUTTON - b. 1853 in GA. -Married (2) Margaret V. Dilda, dau. of Dennis Dilda. - born Jan. 1845 - died After June 1900 in GA. - Census lists Father born in SC, Mother born GA. Children of Chandler DUTTON and Margaret: 1. William D. DUTTON, b. 1860-d. 1931 - m. WYATT. 2. Elizabeth J. DUTTON, b. 1863. 3. George Washington DUTTON, b.1866 - d.1950.- m.ERWIN. 4. Nancy E. DUTTON, b. 1868. 5. James B. DUTTON, b. 1869 - d. 1933. 6. Alice B. A. DUTTON, b. 1872 - married ERWIN. 7. Leah (?) C. DUTTON, b. 1874. 8. John C. DUTTON, b. abt. 1877. 9. Mary DUTTON, b 1879. 10. Marion Bartow DUTTON, b. 1883 - d. 1959. 11. Luther G. DUTTON, b. 1886 - d. 1940. Chandler is found on the 1850 and 1860 Gwinnett Co., GA. census. After that we find Chandler and family on the 1870 Gordon County, GA. census, where he, and his family are also found in subsequent years. Audrey Rogers ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

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I have another FTM CD/ROM, #170, "Immigrants to the New World, 1600s-1800s" that has an article discussing the factual evidence to support who was actually on the Welcome. John Dutton isn't even mentioned as someone who was thought to be on it, but, in fact, was not. One point made was that Quakers living in the north would likely have boarded a ship out of Liverpool which was much closer to, if not in, Chershire where John Dutton most likely lived. John did come to America in 1882, which is documented in Cope. > -----Original Message----- > From: Edward Dutton [mailto:areduton@coffey.com] > Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2000 9:46 AM > To: DUTTON-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: PASSENGER LISTS > > > Not to take anything away from Gilbert Cope and his work(s); GENEAOLOGY OF > THE DUTTON FAMILY OF PENNSYLVANIA > and THE DUTTONS OF CONNECTICUT. > The immigration lists have more than 42 Duttons who > immigrated before 1800, and many after that in varying > locations. I was making a list of those before 1800. > > SOURCE: > Family Tree Maker (World Family Tree) from Broderbund: > FAMILY ARCHIVE #354, PASSENGER & IMMIGRATION LISTS INDEX > 1538-1840 @, 1998. > Data Supplied by Gale Research, Detroit, Michigan. > > example: > John Dutton, Deleware Bay or River 1682. > References-- > Cowgill, E. B. "The Passengers on the Welcome." > In Transactions of the Kansas State Historical Society, > vol. 6 (1897-1900) pp. 56-59. > Source annotation: Contains 99 of the estimated 100 > passengers who accompanied William Penn. > Also in No. 0132, Armstrong; No. 9143, Tepper, > New World Immigrants Vol. 1 pp 246-249; No. 4752 > "List of Pilgrims on the Welcome." > > So, there are several sources for some, which may or > may not lead to much if you can find them. > > Dutton, ??? Winthrop Fleet 1630 > Dutton, ??? Salem, MA > DUTTON, > ,Abraham Maryland 1633 > ,Andrew to America 1752 (3 sets, varying sources). > ,Ann Maryland 1719 (twice) > ,Ann Virginia 1667 > ,David Virginia 1624-1625 (twice) > ,Deborah Virginia 1652 (twice) > ,Dorothy Virginia 1654 (twice) > ,Eliza Potomac 1742 > ,Elizabeth to America 1742 > ,Francis Virginia 1734 (twice) > ,George to America 1765 (twice) > ,Henry Virginia 1665 > ,James Virginia 1665 > ,Jane to America 1759 (twice) > ,John to America 1764 > ,John Deleware Bay or River 1682 > ,John Massachusetts 1630 > ,John Philadelphia 1682 > ,John age 15 Grenada 1774 (three lists) > ,John South Carolina 1684 > ,John Grenada 1773-74 (twice) > ,Martha Potomac 1742 > ,Martha to America 1742 > ,Laurane Boston 1765 > ,Joseph Maryland 1734 (twice) > ,Joseph to America 1734 > ,Richard to America 1692 > ,Richard Barbados 1678 > ,Richard Virginia 1620 (twice) > ,Saml Virginia 1667-1720 (three times) > ,Susanna Virginia 1667-79 (thrice) > ,Tho Virginia 1663-67 (EIGHT lists) > ,Thomas to America 1743 > ,Thomas Maryland 1775 > ,Thomas Maryland 1680 > ,Thomas Maryland 1775 (three) > ,Thomas New England 1630 > ,Thomas Reading, Mass. 1648 > ,Thomas to America 1742 > ,William Roanoke, Virginia 1587 > ,William Virginia 1587 > > Obviously, there are duplicates. No guarantees as > to the accuracy of my extractions or notes. The > opportunity for errors is great. > > But, I do not think most of these immigrants are in > Gilbert Cope's project. I could see trying to match > some of them against my Pennsylvania 1850 file, etc.; > especially those who came in after 1800. > > > > , > >

1860 CENSUS ILLINOIS, Marshall County, Lacon Township, post office Lacon. Page 76, dwelling 591, family 558. Benj. Dutton age 86, Gentleman, born Pennsylvania. He is with a family whose name is not legible--possibly ?Frank age 35 coach or cab maker, real estate 3000, b. VA Ellen ? age 30 b. PA, John 11 b. OH, Albert 9 b. Ill., Franc? female age 3 b. Ill, ?Cxxx? female age 30 b. VA, Marion age 25 b. Ohio. Page 102, Dwelling 812, HOTEL L. B. Dutton age 24 clerk w/ real estate 2000, pers. prop. 100 born Ohio.

Not to take anything away from Gilbert Cope and his work(s); GENEAOLOGY OF THE DUTTON FAMILY OF PENNSYLVANIA and THE DUTTONS OF CONNECTICUT. The immigration lists have more than 42 Duttons who immigrated before 1800, and many after that in varying locations. I was making a list of those before 1800. SOURCE: Family Tree Maker (World Family Tree) from Broderbund: FAMILY ARCHIVE #354, PASSENGER & IMMIGRATION LISTS INDEX 1538-1840 @, 1998. Data Supplied by Gale Research, Detroit, Michigan. example: John Dutton, Deleware Bay or River 1682. References-- Cowgill, E. B. "The Passengers on the Welcome." In Transactions of the Kansas State Historical Society, vol. 6 (1897-1900) pp. 56-59. Source annotation: Contains 99 of the estimated 100 passengers who accompanied William Penn. Also in No. 0132, Armstrong; No. 9143, Tepper, New World Immigrants Vol. 1 pp 246-249; No. 4752 "List of Pilgrims on the Welcome." So, there are several sources for some, which may or may not lead to much if you can find them. Dutton, ??? Winthrop Fleet 1630 Dutton, ??? Salem, MA DUTTON, ,Abraham Maryland 1633 ,Andrew to America 1752 (3 sets, varying sources). ,Ann Maryland 1719 (twice) ,Ann Virginia 1667 ,David Virginia 1624-1625 (twice) ,Deborah Virginia 1652 (twice) ,Dorothy Virginia 1654 (twice) ,Eliza Potomac 1742 ,Elizabeth to America 1742 ,Francis Virginia 1734 (twice) ,George to America 1765 (twice) ,Henry Virginia 1665 ,James Virginia 1665 ,Jane to America 1759 (twice) ,John to America 1764 ,John Deleware Bay or River 1682 ,John Massachusetts 1630 ,John Philadelphia 1682 ,John age 15 Grenada 1774 (three lists) ,John South Carolina 1684 ,John Grenada 1773-74 (twice) ,Martha Potomac 1742 ,Martha to America 1742 ,Laurane Boston 1765 ,Joseph Maryland 1734 (twice) ,Joseph to America 1734 ,Richard to America 1692 ,Richard Barbados 1678 ,Richard Virginia 1620 (twice) ,Saml Virginia 1667-1720 (three times) ,Susanna Virginia 1667-79 (thrice) ,Tho Virginia 1663-67 (EIGHT lists) ,Thomas to America 1743 ,Thomas Maryland 1775 ,Thomas Maryland 1680 ,Thomas Maryland 1775 (three) ,Thomas New England 1630 ,Thomas Reading, Mass. 1648 ,Thomas to America 1742 ,William Roanoke, Virginia 1587 ,William Virginia 1587 Obviously, there are duplicates. No guarantees as to the accuracy of my extractions or notes. The opportunity for errors is great. But, I do not think most of these immigrants are in Gilbert Cope's project. I could see trying to match some of them against my Pennsylvania 1850 file, etc.; especially those who came in after 1800. ,

Hi my name is Laurie Shaffer and I would like to help if I can. I don't have a lot of time but I will do my best to help. Please let me know. Thanks Laurie

Betsy, I see that you are still puzzled. > I'm very aware that families intermarry, I run a RootsWeb mailing list for > cousin marriages and have several cousin marriages in my ancestry. The > reason why I don't think this is the case is that I've got families that > cover a wide area, different social structures and so far I've found no > evidence that any of them are related. > > My ancestors on my Mother's side that I found in Dick's files were moneyed > people in Yorkshire, England (WILKINSON) that later aligned with English > Royalty > > My ancestors on my Father's side that I found in Dick's files (MOORE) were > not moneyed people and lived in the southern areas of England in the > Devonshire area (I understand there may be/could be some common ancestor > between these two families way back... [added note: this family's research > goes back to 1567 with no trace of MOORE that I can find in it] - if so, I'd > like to find it) > > The ancestors on my Husband's side that I found in Dick's files (SAUVE dit > LaPLANTE, SAUVE, LaPLANTE) were French Canadians and immigrated from France. > There should be NO common link between this family and the two listed above. > > See why I'm perplexed? You seem to be assuming that the link between the various families is a direct one in earlier years. It almost certainly isn't, given the differences in origins. But that doens't mean they might not be genuinely linked in Dick's data. Here is one possible explanation. Assume that one of the thousands of descendants of your WILKINSON family of England, a Marie WILKINSON lived in California in 1930s. And that person married a Joshua HALE (a name you don't have in your ancestry at all). And assume that this Joshua HALE was the descendant of a Morris HALE who lived in New Jersey in 1720. And assume that Morris HALE's wife was Abigail WAINWRIGHT (another name you don't have in your ancestry). Further assume that Abigail's sister was Mary WAINWRIGHT who married a Joseph WALES (another name you don't have). And further assume that Mary and Joseph had a direct descendant Arthur FITCH who lived in Ohio in 1930 and married a Felice LaPLANTE, who happended to descend from your French-Canadian LaPLANTE family. In this way both WILKINSON and LaPLANTE could be in a genealogy database and there would be a link between them (the one I just described). But it would NOT be a direct ancestral link, nor would it be a simple link by a single marriage. Rather, to describe the link one would have to run up and down a number of family's ancestries, jumping from tree to tree at marriage points. I know that Dick built his file by combining material from many different genealogies. He imported into his database many of the post 1880 DUTTON family descendants living n Chester County that I had researched and gave to him in a computer file. He could easily have combined data from different people researching (in this hypothetical) WAINWRIGHT and WALES and - voila - the link between your WILKINSON and LaPLANTE families would have emerged. Yet, with 250,000 records in his file and these being ancillary to his DUTTON research he probably would not have known the link actually existed. So even if he were alive today, hw would be as surprised as you are to find it. In point of fact, the link could be even more exotic than what I have described. The one I described only requires 3 marriages (WILKINSON-HALE in the 1930s in California, HALE-WAINWRIGHT in the 1720s in New Jersey, and FITCH-LaPLANTE inthe 1930s in Ohio). It may well require 8 or 11 marriages. Hope this helps. Doug Hall