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    1. Re: NO MAIL!!
    2. Carole Malisiak
    3. Hi Mick and June: I do not have any info on Margaret Dutton and Thomas Bradbury, so, I'm responding to your query on the list because somebody else might have data on your folks!! Carole ________________ Mick & June Starns wrote: > > The name I am trying to research is Margaret Agnes Dutton, who married > Thomas Bradbury. They had 3 children, Zita, Frank and June. My mother is > Zita and I am trying to find any information that someone can tell me. > Thank you > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Carole Malisiak <malisiak@midohio.net> > To: <DUTTON-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, November 23, 1998 6:04 PM > Subject: NO MAIL!! _____________________ > >Hi All! > >I have received 'no Dutton mail' recently so I thought I'd send > >some--just to see if it is still working!! As we have had experience > >with that before. > > > >Hi Phyllis, > >What are you up to these days? AND don't tell me 5 foot something!! > >;-)) > > > >My Odard research has had a big stall with my hard disk crash and > >all--still trying to recuperate from it. Have nothing positive to > >report. Still have a few leads to check out. > >Carole

    11/28/1998 08:53:16
    1. Another John Dutton!!
    2. Hello to all of you DUTTONS (and a special HELLO to Cousin Justin and to Brenda) I am looking for information about my g-g-g-grandfather, John Dutton and his family. I have some information on the names marked* (some from relatives, some from research and some from the net). *John Dutton b. March 26, 1791 where? d. Feb. 26, 1863 in Crete, Will County, Illinois m. Sarah Green? CHILDREN (Not necessarily in correct order) Chloe Ann Dutton m. William Rice Abbott E. Dutton Sarah Dutton m. Rufus Barton Elizabeth Dutton m. Oliver P. Phillips Orson B. Dutton *Charles A. Dutton (g-g-grandfather) b. July 15, 1826 in Hannibal, Oswego County, New York m. 1st Mary Sutton 2nd Laura Ann Sutton (g-g-grandmother) in Joliet, Will County, Illinois (Both Suttons were the daughters of Ira Sutton and Mary Edgerly.) Charles died Sept. 20, 1898 in Clayton, Taylor County, Iowa. Encynora B. Dutton m. Jeremiah Chapman Silas M. Dutton Green Dutton? Children of Charles A. Dutton and Laura Ann Sutton: *Mary Augusta Dutton b. June 6, 1854 in Putman County, Indiana m. Benton Douglas Alloway in 1872 in Grant, Taylor County, South Dakota d. Jan. 1908 in Bonesteel, Gregory County, South Dakota Silas F. Dutton b. 1856-57 in Will County, Illinois Charles L. Dutton b. 1857-58 in Indiana *John A. Dutton b. Jan. 1859 in Indiana m. M.A. (Last name unknown) Elsie Dutton b. Abt. 1862 in Iowa (may have married a Scott and moved to Michigan) *Mehitabel (Hattie May) Tasker Dutton (g-grandmother) b. Dec. 1862 in Oceola, Clark County, Iowa m. Edward Albert Drake May 1881 in Conway, Taylor County d. Sept. 1928 in Toronto, Woodson County, Kansas Chloe Dutton b. Abt. 1865 in Iowa d. Oct. 1872 in Clayton, Taylor County, Iowa George M. Dutton b. Abt. 1867 in Iowa Emma Dutton b. Abt. 1868 in Iowa d. Mar 1874 in Clayton, Taylor County, Iowa Effa Dutton b. Aft. 1872 in Iowa Ira E. Dutton b. Abt. 1874 in Iowa Eva L. Dutton b. 29, 1876 in Iowa m. ? Collins and lived in Marshtown, Iowa d. Apr. 1969 in Iowa Nettie C. Dutton b. Abt. 1878 in Iowa d. Dec. 1911 in Taylor County, Iowa Now that's a lot of names, dates and places!! Surely, someone in DUTTONLAND knows about some of them. Any help (info and/or corrections) would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Bunches Arlene (Artie) Shulista

    11/28/1998 01:04:14
    1. Research in Virginia
    2. Richard A. Dutton
    3. Hi All, I know some on this List have been trying to do research on ancestors in Virginia - mostly with frustrating results. Below is an article that pertains to you and might be of some help. It comes from "RootsWeb Review, Vol. 1, No. 24". Happy Hunting! and best wishes for the holidays. Dick Dutton Researching my family tree! Trunk: DUTTON Major branches: ALLEN, BARTLETT, CUTLER, DOGGETT, DUNTEN, DUNTON, JENSON, LAKE, METCALF, PARTRIDGE, REYNOLDS, RICHARDS, SAWYER, SMITH, TRACY, TURNER, WEDGWOOD. Minor branches: ADAMS, ALDEN, BALL, BLACK, BLANCHARD, BREWSTER, BRIMHALL, CARY, COLBURN, HATCH, HOPKINS, HYDE, KIDDER, PERKINS, WARNER, WILLIAMS. Smaller Limbs: ALGER, ANDERSON, CLARK, DAVIS, FRENCH, FULLER, HALL, HARRIS, JOHNSON, KNAPP, McMILLAN, MERRICK, MILLER, MOORE, NELSON PARKER, TUTTLE - And many more. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- VIRGINIA RECORDS (Part One of Two) by Brian Mavrogeorge, Director of Genealogy Initiatives Palladium Interactive <bmavrogeorge@palladium.net> Ultimate Family Tree <http://www.uftree.com> When someone says "the records were burned" I immediately think they must be researching in Virginia. The original capital, Jamestown, was destroyed three times, Richmond was burned in 1865 and many courthouses were destroyed during the Civil War. Virginia research is a challenging quest. The Library of Virginia site <http://www.vsla.edu/lva/lva.html> states: "early official records of births and deaths in Virginia are almost nonexistent." Records for births and deaths were kept in the local parish; there are few marriage records prior to 1730. However, Virginia was one of the early states, after the New England states, to have vital record registration (1853) and to begin recording births and deaths at the county level. But that stopped in 1896 and it was not until 1912 that vital records were again kept statewide. So it is important to establish the parish or the county where an event took place in order to continue your search in church records, cemetery records, and newspapers. For that you need some kind of a statewide index. A good place to start is the "Virginia Historical Index" (1934-36; reprint, Gloucester, Mass.: Peter Smith, 1965). This multi-volume index, often referred to as "Swem's Index," has entries for several historical and biographical publications through the 1930s and 1940s. Don't overlook the Ultimate Family Data Library's Master Index to its collection of Virginia data. The Ultimate Family Data Library's online index <http://www.familyinfo.com> includes abstracts of Virginia records from the mid-1700s to 1800s. You can subscribe to the data online or order it on CD-ROM. * * * * *

    11/27/1998 12:09:21
    1. Thanksgiving Thoughts
    2. Robert E. Dutton
    3. Thanksgiving is a special holiday for those of us with a New England background. It is a time when we give thanks for the many blessings that life has bestowed on us, just as it was for our ancestors. I think it is also appropriate to remember those who came before. The trials of an early New Englander, Thomas Dutton, Jr. are very revealing of what they suffered and had to be thankful for. King Philip's War, June 20, 1675 - April 12, 1678. Fought between the Indians who felt oppressed by English law and missionary efforts and the English who by 1660 had begun to produce their own food and develop commerce and fishing. About 500 settlers were captured or killed and between 10 and 20 towns were completly destroyed or abandoned. Thomas served during the war, and againt the Narragansetts, he was wounded in the swamp attack. He left a letter describing it: Bilerikye * this (1st) of 8th:(1678) To the honered governer & ye Rest of ye honered members of ye Generall Court now fitting in boston:this (2nd) 8th:1678 The petetion of Tho Dutton Junr: most humbley fheweth: thatt sum time in June :77: I was imprest into ye cuntrey ferves from Billeriky :& was first with fum others to the estward :under ye Command of the honered major clarke efq & the wise providence of ye allwise gov: so ordered yt I was in ye fattall feirmish: In which capt fwett: ye worthey comander: was flaine: and allmost all his offisers: with about 50 men besids &: 21 more yt were wounded [to my best Rememberance] of which my felf was one: I was fhott thurow the fide on my bilte: and thurow my Left knee & so ffell down wounded amongst ye rest not able to help my felf: I being of a child lame one my right thigh my hipp bone was putt out of Joynt and never sett againe fo yt I was now lame one both fides: besides ye fhott which went thurow my fide: as aforsed: I therefor hid my felf amongst ye bushes: not being able to ftand nor goe: the battell being over: the indians came forth out of ye fwamp and one of them espied me in a bush: and feing my gunn in my hand: aprehinded more danger ye there was: and fpake to the rest and they all ran away the which I perceiveing: with much deficoltie: crept into the fwamp and covered my felf with mudd & dirt: the Indians qicklie returned to the place to look for me: & fiered into the bush where the indian did fe me: & they fought diligentlye for me: but It pleased the lord: they coold nott find me: then in the night after all was ftill: I crept out of ye fwamp: towards the gareson about a mile & a halfe and whatt with my bleeding and great paine: I was not able to goe one rodd farther :it was the more deficolt for me to creep becase I was fhott thorow one of my knees :but there I laye doune & thought I must dye before morning but the lord who ordereth all things acording to ye counsill of his own will: fo ordered yt an other wounded foldier came bye me: in the night a letle before daye: and fo told my condetion to the Capt of the gareson: who fent forth men imediatelye: and found me: and brought me into the gareson who had much adoo to keep life in me: & I was fent by the first opertunitye to falem: where I came upon ye 2nd of July: from ye time till ye:28th: of Janeueray I Remained under ye hands of docter welds: as will appeare by his certeficate which I gave to ye honered counsell (2nd page) & I have sence that fpent fortie fhillings with other feirgens & it is not yett thorowly cured: and never like to have ye perfect use of my knee whilst I have days to live: & have binn able to doe butt letle these fiveteen months: my freinds are very poore: and not able to help me attall: I was alwayes brought up to husbandrey: & my fathers living upon rent: and his family vesited with ficknes & lamenes: untill he had fpent ye letle which he had: fum of ye honered members of this honered Court: know these things to be true: I fpeak with refferanc to my fathers povertye & my lamenes: foe yt I am in an evill case to gitt my living: but intend If pleas god to bless my indevers: to lern ye art of a fhuemaker: yt by fum honest means I may gitt a liveing: although I am now above :28: years of age: & I never received for all this time more ye :11sh: & :6d for those few dayes before I was wounded: now I besech your honers considder my case: I know nott whatt to doe: but I desire to trust in god: as also hope yt your honners of your grace will be pleased to bestow fum fmall matter upon me: as you have binn pleased to doe upon sum others in ye like case: although their case was not so badd as mine: further If your honners pleas to free me from training watching & warding: who being a poore mephibosheth lame one both my feet :much more mought a binn said: to fhew the mifferablenes of my condition: but I am laft to trouble your honners with more words then needs: I rest hopeing to find a comfortable answer: then fhall your fervant be dubley ablidged: to pray for your honners help & hapinis: as ye dutifull serevant: and most humble fupliant: Thomas Dutten iuner (signed) >From the notation at the end of the letter, it appears that the court allowed Thomas "fifteene pounds in Country pay..." He was also relieved of further military service. Massachusetts Archives, LXXIX:209-210 220 Morrissey Blvd. Boston, MA 02125 Transcribed from original by Robert E. Dutton

    11/26/1998 11:51:37
    1. INTRODUCTION
    2. Bunny
    3. Hello you "Somewhere" Cousins - ! My name's Bunny Jeanne Harvey - live in Draper, Utah - south of Salt Lake City. Retired and a great-gramma, lots of time to do researchings on the family lines! My Dutton line comes in with my 15th great-grandmother: Matilda Dutton born 1427 in Dutton, Chesure, England; who md in 1442 one Sir William Booth....daughter of Sir John Dutton and Margaret Savage. ( Margaret Savage's mother, Maud de Swynnerton, ties us in with English Royalty with King Henry II and a Countess Ela - the Longespee line. ) After Matilda Dutton, my Dutton line continues back 19 more generations to the late 800s and am still researching the latter part trying to get better proofs and evidences.... Anyone in my timeframe yet?? Would love to hear from you and compare notes and sources. Your "Somewhere" Cousin - BJ Harvey

    11/25/1998 08:45:43
    1. Southern Dutton's- Georgia
    2. I am Jennifer Dutton Terry. I live in Northeast Alabama. I knew nothing about my Dutton family until just a year or so ago. This is the part of my lineage that I know begining with myself and working DIRECTLY back. Jennifer Dutton born AL Harlan Dutton born Jefferson County, AL Robert Dutton born 1919 AL died 1980 Walker County AL John H. Dutton born ? died 1928 Walker County AL James Robert H. Dutton born 1862 GA or AL died Walker County AL 1927 Henry Dutton born GA ca 1820 d. ca 1911 Blount/Morgan County AL. The birthdate of Henry is according to census and his pension record from the WBTS. He applied 3 times and each year of birth changed. The death date comes from the fact that his wife Mary E. Fraser (spelling?) applied for widows pension in 1911. This is where my information stops. Henry married Mary Elizabeth Fraser in 1857 in Floyd County GA. They had 2 daughters on the 1860 Floyd County Census - hard to read "L. T. F. Dutton" and Francis Dutton. Does anyone know where any of these Georgia Dutton came from before GA? Sincerely, Jennifer Dutton Terry Fayette County, Alabama

    11/25/1998 01:03:13
    1. List Member Stats -- Call For Introductions
    2. Michael L. Dunton
    3. Hello from the list manager. With a busy summer behind us and heading into the Holiday season (genealogy season for me :), I thought that I would take this opportunity to see if we can get the list moving again. One quick member statistic -- the list is now up to 128 members as of 8:20 a.m. PST today. With that said, there has been very little activity. This brings me to my request -- suggestion. Since there are so many new members, how about sending a brief bio and who you are looking for (Dutton genealogically speaking)? I'll go first . . . I am Mike Dunton. I have been interested in family history and genealogy since about 1982. In 1996, when the WWW started to hop, I found that there was a lack of information about Duntons (I'll get to my interest in Duttons in a minute). I posted "The Dunton Homesite" [http://www.web-ster.com/miked/] in the end of 1996. Internet genealogy was a new endeavor back then . . . it has been amazing. Anyway, my genealogical quest has been very rewarding. We have been successful in tracing back our main Dunton line to the early 1600s in Massachusetts and many of the maternal and side-branches back several generations. However, the proverbial stone wall has been to find the father and ancestry of Samuel Dunton ca. 1635 of Reading, Mass. Here is where the 'Dutton' interest begins -- While searching the Internet, I ran across a site that listed my ancestor, Samuel Dunton, with his father as being a John Dutton. This John Dutton was reported as having traveled to the colonies with the Winthrop Fleet. I contacted the owner of the site and learned his source. I contacted the source and received a copy of his work. I am yet to find hard documentation, but following is what I have learned. ====================== Samuel (and a Robert) were documented as arriving in the country prior to other 'documented' DUNTONs. In my studies, name changes in records were quite common up into the late 1900s. For that matter, how many times does your own name get misspelled? This was an especially common occurrence before the literacy rate improved. Here is what I know: Source: "The Winthrop Fleet of 1630" - Male Passengers on flyleaf of Winthrop's journal include a "Mr. Dutton". "Genealogical and Personal Memoirs Relating to the Families of Boston and Eastern Massachusetts", Vol. I, by William Richard Cutter, Page 250, states: "The names of Dunton and Dutton have the same origin, and in the same families the two spellings were used even as late as the Revolution. It is presumes therefore that the Dutton and Dunton pioneers at Reading, Massachusetts, may have been sons of John Dutton, viz. 1. Thomas, born 1621. 2. Josiah, lived in Reading, near the Great Pond. 3. Robert, of Reading, came from Lynn; was Selectman of Reading, 1647-49. 4. Samuel, of Reading, born about 1620: descendants spelled the name Dunton; has sons, Thomas, John, Samuel, Nathaniel; died November 7, 1683." "Directory of Ancestral Heads of New England Families, 1620-1700", Frank R. Holmes, Genealogical Publishing Company, 1964, Appendix A, p. 1xxiii states: "DUTTON Place name from a village in Cheshire, England, has several derivations. Dut-ton, Dutch-town. Duton from Du, Cornish British, side and ton, the same as dun, a hill, Dhu-ton, Gaelic and Welsh, the black hill. Hodard was the progenitor of the family in the reign of William the Conqueror. John b. Eng., came to N.E. 1630, became identified with Reading, Massachusetts." [Mike Dunton notes that this must be the source of the statement that James Edwin Dunton made in the first page of his unpublished genealogy. See next note.] According to "The Genealogy of James Edwin Dunton" by the same, he found a reference in "the Portland, Maine library" that led him to state the "Hodard" was the progenitor of the Dunton family during the reign of William the Conqueror in the 11th Century. He went on to state that the New England Historical Society Library coexisted in this library and that he found a village in Cheshire, England called "Duntune" (now Dutton). James Edwin also hypothesized that the name was Dutton prior to being spelled Dunton and that it was "originally spoken in the language of Ancient Gaul". ====================== I hope that you will take the opportunity to send along your "brick wall" to the list, and to actively looks through your notes and see if you might have a clue to any of the requests. This could get busy so please, when replying to messages, do not include a whole copy of the original, and use the SUBJECT line efficiently. For example, if you are replying to this message with information about Samuel Dunton or John Dutton, I would suggest a SUBJECT of something like, "Mike Dunton - re:Samuel Dunton / John Dutton".

    11/25/1998 10:04:50
    1. Re: ANN DUTTON
    2. Walter
    3. Bill : Goodness! I really, really hope you didn't marry one of Ann's "decedents"! :) :<> :) LOL I know what you meant but gave in to my impulse to comment. Only humor intended. Bill7230@aol.com wrote: > Can any one please help me with this ancestor. > (I have her decedents, I married one of them) > > ANN DUTTON > married BENJAMIN CULVER > had dau. SARAH > who married RICHARD WHITE before 1776 in Hartford Co., MD. > > (First date and place I have for this line and I'm not sure of either.) > Any help greatly appreciated. > > Bill in Phoenix > Bill7032@aol.com

    11/24/1998 06:57:10
    1. Information Resource on the Web
    2. Michael L. Dunton
    3. Here is an interesting site called the Immigrant Ships Transcribers Guild. It is rather new but has several thousand individuals listed and more being added weekly. http://iigs.rootsweb.com/immships/ Mike <><~~~~<><~~~~<><~~~~<><~~~~<><~~~~ The Dunton Family Homesite http://www.web-ster.com/miked/ list manager for dutton-l@rootsweb.com & dunton-l@rootsweb.com <><~~~~<><~~~~<><~~~~<><~~~~<><~~~~

    11/24/1998 09:05:46
    1. NO MAIL!!
    2. Carole Malisiak
    3. Hi All! I have received 'no Dutton mail' recently so I thought I'd send some--just to see if it is still working!! As we have had experience with that before. Hi Phyllis, What are you up to these days? AND don't tell me 5 foot something!! ;-)) My Odard research has had a big stall with my hard disk crash and all--still trying to recuperate from it. Have nothing positive to report. Still have a few leads to check out. Carole

    11/23/1998 05:04:08
    1. ANN DUTTON
    2. Can any one please help me with this ancestor. (I have her decedents, I married one of them) ANN DUTTON married BENJAMIN CULVER had dau. SARAH who married RICHARD WHITE before 1776 in Hartford Co., MD. (First date and place I have for this line and I'm not sure of either.) Any help greatly appreciated. Bill in Phoenix Bill7032@aol.com

    11/23/1998 01:57:25
    1. More of Odard
    2. Carole Malisiak
    3. Hi again! This archive is very interesting with these guys trading their thinking back and forth and their sources! Just type into the <search> field: FitzNeel and St. Sauveur. at rootsweb.com, Archive of GEN-MEDIEVAL-L Messages. Here is the link (hopefully it works!): http://searches.rootsweb.com/ Carole

    11/21/1998 09:12:00
    1. Odard
    2. Carole Malisiak
    3. Hi Guys, I found this very interesting post at rootsweb.com <Archive of GEN-MEDIEVAL-L Messages> when I did a search for <Odard>. The message was posted by: <reedpcgen@aol.com >. The message is below!!!! This is making me <crazy>. Carole The points about Statham: (1) He cites many documents which prove that Richard Fitz Nigel was brother of William the COnstable. That is not in question. (2) He cites no document which shows that Richard was mentioned as a St. Sauveur, or in French records; only as brother of William in Chester. So his connection into the family hinges on William's. (3) Statham cites many documents which list the two WIlliam St. Sauveurs, sons of Nigel. But that was never in doubt. Keats-Rohan verifies this, as does Round. (4) Statham cites many documents pertaining to William FitzNigel, the constable of Chester, in Cheshire. This was never in doubt either, and is well attested. (5) There is no Cheshire document that calls WIlliam FitzNigel, the constable, a St. Saveur. There is no French document that calls William de St. Sauveur constable of Chester. (6) There is no factual document that shows that Nigel Vct. of St. Sauveur, served as constable of Chester, leaving his Frnch lands to live in a wasted area of England [!]. Remember that Cheshire was laid waste by the Conqueror. If you read through Domesday, you quickly discover that few of the manors were worth anything. It had been on the frontier, was the stronghold of Mercia and on the Welsh frontier. The land was prety much worthless for the most part. Chief tenants received far more revenues from manors they held in other counties (such as the Massey holdings in Hampshire and Wiltshire), or those who held of Earl Hugh in Lincoln or Yorkshire, than they did from comparable Cheshire manors. And Earl Hugh himself was not a wealthy man, in comparison. I posted some facts about revenues taken from Sydney Painter in a post about the Lacy family last January (check dejanews). So why on earth would someone like vct. Nigel leave his beautiful and comfortable region in France to live in the baren waste that was much of Cheshire to serve under Hugh d'Avranches? (7) Tait discusses the genealogical account to which you refer [Dugdale's Monasticon Anglianum vi. 315 and Ormerod i, 689-90]. Perhaps you will feel more comportable believing him, rather than me. He states that "Neel(Latinized Nigellus" "seems to be entirely absent from contemporary record." The account of the predecessors of those who made the donations for the foundations of the abbeys, etc., is referred to as the priory _Progenies_. The account of the father of Wililam FitzNigel was that Neel "is said to have come to England with earl Hugh of Chester accompanied by five brothers: Hudardus, Edwardus, Wolmerus, Horswinus and Wolftatus." The earl made Nigel constable and established him at Halton. Then Tait emphasizes: "The untrustworthiness of these monastic pedigrees in their early steps is notrious and though Hudard, more correctly Odard, was a historical person, a knight of the constable andncestor of the Dutton family, there is no evidence that he was uncle of William FitzNigel and THE OTHER NAMES in themselves REFUTE THE STORY for they are English not Norman and apparently imaginary [emphasis mine]." "It is noteworthy that no attempt is made in the _Progenies_ to identify the Norman family of Nigel. It was not until the sixteenth century that unscrupulous heralds linked him up with the vicomtes of the Cotentin whose seat was at Sait-Sauveur near Valognes.... Nigel is there said to have been son of Ivo, viscount of Cotentin, by a sister of a (misnamed) count of Brittany.... [T]here was no vicomte of the COtentin names Ivo in the eleventh century, there were actually two Neels, the younger of whom held the office from 1042 to 1092. He was, of course, hailed as the father of William fitzNigel and as the first baron of Halton and constable of Chester. But as the great French scholar, Leopold Delisle, pointed out in 1867, there is no evidence, other than Wace's "Romman de Rou" and a list of the followers of the Conqueror drawn up to exalt the Mohuns of Dunster Castle, that Nigel the vicomte took part in the Conquest of England. Had he been the first baron of Halton and constable of Chester, as the Cheshire historians have assumed, he would have held these positions in 1086 when DOmesday Book was drawn up, for he lived six years longer, but WIlliam fitzNigel held both at that date." (8) There were many Nigels in the Domesday book (in fact it is a fairly common name in ENgland after the Norman Conquest), but there os no evidence any of them was the father of WIlliam or Richard FitzNigel or Nigel de St. Sauveur. I have not yet, however, analyzed the holdings of the various Nigels to see if they were eventually held by William or Richard FitzNigel, but if so, it would be further refutation of the story. If Nigel, father of the Constable, was still alive in 1086, he should have been constable too. William FitzNigel is the first Constable of Chester of whom there is any evidence and was one of the two main landholders in Cheshire at Domesday (after Earl Hugh and Robert of Rhudlan). (9) So the only evidence that WIlliam FitzNigel was son of Nigel de St. Sauveur was that there were WIlliams and Nigels in bother families, or, "the name's the same game." This is very flimsy evidence indeed, considering the following: (10) The document presented by Round shoudls that Nigel, vct. de St. Sauveur, had two sons named William, three daughters, and two other sons, but no Richard is mentioned. So this would actually be evidence that Richard did not belong to this family. So since he was definitely William FitzNigel of Chester's brother, this means he does not fit there either. One could decide that Richar must be illegitimate to justify that he was not mentioned, but in many cases illegitimate sons went into orders, and beside, one has to make this up to FORCE the connection. There is no evidence or indication of it. I'm willing to admit I'm wrong as soon as anything to the contrart surfaces, but until then, it seems a pretty solid case. I await to see what Keats-Rohan says. She may have solved the problem, but her article about the descendants of Bilihildis is not out yet and COEL is not set for release until November or later. Have I messed up anywhere? pcr

    11/21/1998 08:26:10
    1. Dutton genealogy
    2. Hi, The following note was sent to me. Does anyone have a connection to the people listed below? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Randy Lilley ----------------------- I do hope you're close relative since George has a dozen descendants who could use more cousins! My husband George Philip Dutton, Jr., b. 5 Nov., 1919, Washington, DC, d. 12 Oct. 1979, Denver, CO., although SS says his death was in another county, was the son of George Philip, Sr., b. 26 Jan. 1888, Charleston or Boston, Mass. (If pressed I'd go to decisive documentation as to which place.) My George's b.1919 grandfather was George Edwin Dutton, b. 18 March, 1849, Newburyport, MA., son of Benjamin.

    11/21/1998 09:18:51
    1. Bunbury
    2. grieves
    3. Some time ago I asked if anyone had reference to William Dutton of Moston Mill (Warmingham). Since then I've located his parents John Dutton and Mary (Stockton) from his baptism at Bunbury 1805. Does this sound familiar to anyone? Any information regarding these names would be gratefully received. cheers Steph

    11/19/1998 05:52:53
    1. Duttons in Ightham and Redditch.
    2. Philip Tester
    3. Hi to all, I am wondering I could share research on the DUTTONS of IGHTHAM In particular the children of THOMAS DUTTON and MARY WILKES. Thomas and Mary were married in Tardbigge near Redditch in 1803. They had in Redditch Sarah b 1807(died in infancy), RICHARD (my g g grandfather) and Sarah b 1808 (twins), William b 1813 and Frederick b.1815. In Ightham they had Thomas (died in infancy), THOMAS b.1820 and Marianne and Hariet b 1823 (twins). Richard married Mary Lambert and Thomas married Frances Moore. Thomas and Francis emigrated to Melbourne. Richard's daughter maried Sam Letchford and they also moved to Melbourne. I am particularly interested in what happened to the Duttons left in Ightham and who were the parents of Thomas Dutton and Mary Wilkes of Tardbigge Thanks in anticipation, Philip Tester 11 Foley Crescent Ballarat 3350 Australia

    11/19/1998 04:50:35
    1. Look up
    2. David Adams
    3. Have been trying to trace Jane Dutton's family for a number of years. Have now obtained a lead she may have derived from Rugely. Is anyone able to look up a Dutton family in the census which contains William and Anne and maybe daughter Eliza (Jane got married in 1848). Thanks in anticipation. David ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

    11/19/1998 06:44:31
    1. DUTTON-FOWLER
    2. marlene laing
    3. Hello all, I am hoping to connect with or learn more on William Fowler Dutton who m. Mary Young. William was b. 23 Jun 1812 CHENANGO, NY MARR. 1836 D. 16 Jan 1907 father, ROBERT DUTTON mother SARAH FOWLER CH Harriet b.? Ella Louisa b.? Wm. Abner b.? William F. Dutton was a driver on the Erie Canal Hoping someone can help me with more on this family of Dutton, Young and Fowler. Thanks so much, Marlene ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

    11/19/1998 02:00:42
    1. Unidentified subject!
    2. Kristen Dutton
    3. I am searching for any information on Stanley Max (or Maxwell) Dutton born probably near the turn of the century (very late 1800's) and Max or Maxwell Dutton, his father. I believe they lived in or near Tuscarawas county in the state of Ohio, as that is where my father and grandfather hail. My grandfather, Harold Stanley, was born on March 6, 1917. Any information at all on these two gentlemen would be greatly appreciated.

    11/12/1998 01:22:42
    1. Hello in DuttonLand
    2. Carole Malisiak
    3. Hi everybody, I've been off-line for about two weeks, but now I am back. It will take me some time until I can reload all my files unto my new hard disk, so, if you have written to me, please be patient and I will get back to you as soon as I can. If I don't write back, then I've lost your email and perhaps you should re-write me. Take care, Carole

    11/11/1998 04:23:29