I got a hard back copy for about $25. I believe the softback edition is about $17. See my dutton page for the address of the publisher. It's at http://www.netcom.com/~curtrowe. I also have the first section of the book there as well. -----Original Message----- From: aredutton@juno.com [mailto:aredutton@juno.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 1999 3:21 AM To: DUTTON-L@rootsweb.com Subject: GILBERT COPE FTM GENEALOGY LIBRARY.COM has a book by Gilbert Cope, Call Number CS71.D98 Genealogy of the Dutton Family of Pennsylvania. You have to subscribe at a cost of about $7 a month or $49 a year, but the cost of the book would probably pay for that. It also has a chapter about Connecticut. The book is several hundred pages, but you can print out what you want. It begins with an index. also: http:.//www.familytreemaker.com/_glc_/1567/index.html although the end extension changes by page. ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

----------------------------------Snip--------------------------------- > Hi all, > Does this mean that we may be loosely related to the Boone family > through the Savage family? > Carole Hi Carole & all, While I consider my sources and references (where they exist at all) for this time period quite "iffy" I believe the marriage of Maud SWYNNERTON and Sir John SAVAGE to be reliably documented. If we ignore our other questionable connection(s) around MA John that we have been discussing on this List lately, then Maud is supposedly a distant cousin of ours (3C18R in my case). My records do show Sir John SAVAGE & Maud with a daughter Maud (4C17R) but I had no spouse (until your message) and no issue. Should all this be correct then your question answers itself and your wording "loosely related" would seem to be appropriate. If you , or anyone else out there, have any data (ancestors or descendants) for Sir Thomas BOOTH I would love to add it to what I already have. I'll bet I have something you would like in exchange. Happy Hunting! Dick Dutton Researching my family tree! Trunk: DUTTON Major branches: ALLEN, BARTLETT, CUTLER, DOGGETT, DUNTEN, DUNTON, JENSON, LAKE, METCALF, PARTRIDGE, REYNOLDS, RICHARDS, SAWYER, SMITH, TRACY, TURNER, WEDGWOOD. Minor branches: ADAMS, ALDEN, BALL, BLACK, BLANCHARD, BREWSTER, BRIMHALL, CARY, COLBURN, HATCH, HOPKINS, HYDE, KIDDER, PERKINS, WARNER, WILLIAMS. Smaller Limbs: ALGER, ANDERSON, CLARK, DAVIS, FRENCH, ULLER, HALL, HARRIS, JOHNSON, KNAPP, McMILLAN, MERRICK, MILLER, MOORE, NELSON PARKER, TUTTLE - And many more.

Hi all, > Virginia Colonial Records Project > Survey Report No 07128 > Depository: Berkshire Record Office > Class: Trumbull MSS > Title: Alphabetical Correspondence, volume XXXII > Dates: 1609-1622 > Note: Letters from John More in London to William Trumbull in Brussels > no. 17 13 December 1610 > Discusses parliamentary and Court affairs. > > "Yt is advertised from Seville that one of the Kings of Barbary.... Sir Thomas Dutton has returned. > W.T. will know that Dr Langton is President of Magdalen and that Sanford > will go with Sir John Digby to Spain." This Sir Thomas Dutton must be the twentieth Dutton of Dutton on Lawson's Chart which notes that he died in 1614. Information from Fred Dutton indicates that he died on 12/28/1614, aged 46. In the Newspaper articles we received from (I don't have a note on who sent it, but it was printed in the newspaper, "The Chronicle," 1/2/65), it reports that Sir Thomas was knighted by James the First in 1603. In June, 1610, he was at the siege of Juliers. So maybe he has returned from that siege. In November, 1610, Thomas engaged in a duel with Sir Hatton Cheke on the Calais Sands and although Dutton was wounded in the throat with a rapier from the front and a dagger from behind, he survived both the duel and the discredit that followed it. Sir Hatton Cheke died from his wounds. This is also the same Thomas Dutton whose 14 year old son, John, died on his wedding day. Carole

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------4E9117AD45AE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all, Does this mean that we may be loosely related to the Boone family through the Savage family? Carole --------------4E9117AD45AE Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Received: from bl-30.rootsweb.com (bl-30.rootsweb.com [207.113.245.30]) by mail.midohio.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA29695 for <malisiak@midohio.net>; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 09:46:51 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 22103 invoked by uid 1003); 21 Jan 1999 14:38:41 -0000 Resent-Date: 21 Jan 1999 14:38:41 -0000 Resent-Cc: recipient list not shown: ; Old-To: GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com Date: 21 Jan 1999 07:29:13 -0800 From: allenk@pacbell.net (G . EDWARD ALLEN) Message-ID: <36A73998.101F@pacbell.net> Organization: RootsWeb Genealogical Data Cooperative Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: GEN-MEDIEVAL-L-request@rootsweb.rootsweb.com References: <TFSYIBPI@MLB.COM> Subject: Re: Maud de Swynnerton Resent-Message-ID: <"wT5tMC.A.-XF.tvzp2"@bl-30.rootsweb.com> To: GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/18442 X-Loop: GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: GEN-MEDIEVAL-L-request@rootsweb.com MICHAEL E MCGUINN wrote: > > G . EDWARD ALLEN wrote in message <36A5FACB.4EA@pacbell.net>... > >wigg7040@MLB.COM wrote: > >> > >> I have information that states Maud de Swynnerton > >> (1365(?) -1415) married John Savage (d. 1450). Does > >> anyone have informtion concerning their children? I am > >> trying to validate the assertion that Ellen Savage (who > >> supposedly married Peter Warburton) was a daughter of > >> and John. Thanks > >> for any help that you can > >> provide. > >> I'm sorry that I don't have this information at hand. I know that this > >is covered on Ormerod's History of Cheshire, especially in the > >corrections section. This book is available on microfilm through the > >Family History Center system. Perhaps someone out there has a more > >specific citation. > > > >Kay Allen AG allenk@pacbell.net > > "Burkes Dormant and Extinct Peerage..." states that Sir John Savage of > Clifton and his wife Maud Swinnerton had issue: John, William, Arnold, > George, Roger, Margaret (who married John Dutton), and Maude (who married > Sir Thomas Booth). > > "The History of Chester" ,1st ed., by George Ormerod states that Sir John > Savage of Clifton and his wife Maud Swynnerton had the same issue as noted > above by Burke. > > The second edition of Ormerod's book has corrections but I do not have > access to a copy. > > MEM Unfortunately, Burkes for this time period is not a good source and neither is the 1st ed of Ormerod. The 2nd is much better amd much more reliable. Kay Allen AG allenk@pacbell.net --------------4E9117AD45AE--

I am helpind a cousin to research a Heacock line in which one is listed in the Dutton Births, Marriages, and Deaths book (SE PA Duttons). She has an Isaac Heacock who m. a Tacy Ann. I have a hunch they're somehow related to Jonathon Heacock and Hannah Pyle, but I can't be certain at this point. Tacy Ann--Wife of Isaac Heacock who departed this life March 4 in the 40th year of her age. (Death 3/4/1857) Does anyone else know of any connections the Duttons may have had to the Heacocks? Erin Peters P.S.--Please cc Damaris8@aol.com

I have copies (somewhat readable) of the wills of Abel Dutton, Thomas Dutton, and a John Dutton. Abel lists a wife Unise, a son Abel who gets land Issac Dutton formerly had, a son John who gets land formerly belonging to a George Dutton, and a son Ezekial that get land formerly belonging to Baker Dutton. As best I can decifer, a Comfort Minty is a daughter as well as I read it Susanna Priscilla Dutton. Executors are Unise Dutton and Jesse Dutton. A George Dutton was a witness. Will dated 8 Dec. 1801. John's will lists his wife as Sarah, his mother as Sarah; (Two Sarahs is not a typrographical error), a sister Hester married to David Stuart, a sister Sarah, a brother Ebe Dutton. Will dated 11th day of February, 183_. (Can't read the last number) Thomas has a wife Sara and children John, Jonas (?), Mary Marten, Elija Ghul or Shul, Ebe Holland Dutton, Hetty Stuart, and Sarah. Will dated 7 Feb 1830. It is my supposition that John is a son of Thomas and that Hester and Hetty are the same as John lists as sisters Hester and Sarah and a brother Ebe. Some siblings were mentioned in connection with taking care of his mother Sarah. I am still wondering how my John and Sariah (Sarah) parents of Mary Dutton, born 18 Nov. 1821 in Milton, Sussex, Delaware are connected, but I am sure they are. I would like to find out if John is the son of Thomas. Perhaps he did not mention his children as they were young. Mary had two brothers Jerry and John and a sister Charlotte. If anyone would like copies of these wills, I would be happy to make and send them to you. >From Lewes and Coolspring Presbyterian Church the following Duttons are mentioned: Apr 16 1800 Richard Abbott to Eliza Dutton C. S. (P. 136) 7/24/1768 Janes son of Jno. & Eliz. Dutton I. R. (P. 137) Jul 5 1770 John Vint to Margaret Dutton (P. 125) Nov 29 1792 Thomas Dutton to Sarah Starr (P. 133) 11/31/1769 John son of John and Eliz. Dutton, dead (p. 138) 10/6/1793 Samuel Hudson son of James and Ruth Dutton (P. 148) 11/23/1794 John son of Thomas & Sarah Dutton (P. 149) 4/22/1798 Samuel Star son of thomas & Sarah Dutton, C. S. (P. 150) 7/7/1799 John son of James and Ruth Dutton C. S. (p. 152) (I do not know what the initials at the end mean) >From "Gleaning by Rev. Ch. H. B. Turner" Mary dau of George and Levina Dutton, born 29 Oct 176_ John, son of George and Levin Dutton, born 13 Oct 17__ (p. 1620 The marriage and baptisms are taken from "Vital Records of Kent and Sussex Co. Delware 1686-1800." Sally Shreeve

Subject: Duttons Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 09:38:59 +1000 From: Warren Dutton <wdutton@global.net.pg> Organization: Ningerum Transport Ltd. To: colin.dutton@btinternet.com CC: rad@emcst.com My name is Warren Dutton (No.8 in the attached list of Descendants of Matthew Dutton). I was born in Sydney, N.S.W., Australia, but am now a citizen of Papua New Guinea, living at the Kiunga Guest House, P.O. Box 20, Kiunga, Western Province, Papua New Guinea. With the assistance of the Lette family of Tasmania, Australia (relatives of Heloisa Frances Doran Rose Lette) I have been able to trace our ancestors only as far back as is shown on the list of the descendants of Matthew Dutton. I would greatly appreciate any assistance in connecting this "twig" to the appropriate branch of the Dutton Tree. There are many other Duttons in Australia (and even some in PNG), although probably of different "twigs" branches. After making the connection backwards I will want to make connections with any of our closer relatives in UK, USA and elsewhere. I am also considerably interested in attending "UK in 2K". Warren Dutton wdutton@global.net.pg ____________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Descendants of Matthew Dutton 1 Matthew Dutton ...2 William Dutton 1724 - ......+Ann Millward Married 15.9.1747 at St. Andrew, Undershaft, London ......3 Thomas Dutton 1760 - .........+Sarah Kingdom Married 1.11.1794 at St. Dunstan in the West. London .........4 Thomas Dutton Lt. Royal Navy Born 22.9.1795 at St. Andrew Holborn, London Died 8.1.1872 at "Pleasant Hills", West Tamar, Tasmania. (Australia) ............+Heloisa Frances Doran Rose Lette 1817 - 1895 Married 8.3.1835 at St. John's, Launceston, Tasmania. (Australia) ............5 Cecil Audley De Courcy Dutton 1852 - 1907 ...............+Ann Marie Plummer 1855 - 1947 ...............6 Josephine Acacia Beatrice Dutton 1880 - 1974 ..................+Lionel Palfrey Hacking Plummer ...............6 Hyacinth Clara Dutton 1882 - ..................+Cecil Brown ...............6 Herbert de Courcey Dutton 1883-1887 - 1919 ..................+Edith Lilian Clinch ..................7 Beresford Audley de Courcy Dutton 1911 - .....................+Lorna Alma Hayes 1913 - 1997 .....................8 Warren Herbert De Courcy Dutton,OBE 1938 - ........................+Joy Dora Moses 1947 - ........................9 Dr. Tania Mary Dutton 1975 - ........................9 Philip Denis De Courcy Dutton 1977 - ........................9 Mark Beresford De Courcy Dutton 1978 - .....................8 Errol George De Courcy Dutton 1942 - ........................+Laraine Beth Day 1946 - ........................9 David Shane De Courcy Dutton 1971 - ...........................+Louise Joy Fitzsimmons 1970 - ........................9 Kimberley Gai Dutton 1974 - .....................8 Carolyn Mary Dutton 1944 - ........................+Rodney Charles Downe 1943 - ........................9 1] Leanne Gai Downe 1971 - ...........................+Stuart Douglas McNaughton 1969 - ...........................*2nd Husband of [1] Leanne Gai Downe: ...........................+Michael Partridge 1965 - ........................9 Hayley Louise Downe 1974 - ...........................+Kimberley Graeme Holland 1974 - ...........................10 Jakeb Christopher Lachlan Holland 1994 - ...........................10 Thomas Drew de Courcy Holland 1997 - ........................9 Lachlan Charles Downe 1976 - .....................8 [2] Neil Beresford De Courcy Dutton 1947 - ........................+Janne Malven Butler ........................9 Matthew De Courcy Dutton ........................*2nd Wife of [2] Neil Beresford De Courcy Dutton: ........................+Christine ..................7 Ian Cecil de Courcey Dutton 1915 - ..................7 Desmond Errol de Courcey Dutton

Darrell - That's a great e-mail. You're obviously an exceedingly bright fellow professional. I think that over the next two months I'm going to make it a writing project to develop rules of evidence and burdens of proof for genealogy (after checking with the associations to see if someone hasn't already done so); and even then reviewing whatever does exist. I enjoy reading your missives. Take care. Walter Lundstein Darrell A. Martin wrote: > At 01:46 PM 01/20/1999 -0800, Walter Lundstein (novelist@adnc.com) wrote: > >Darrell, et al: > > > >As a novice genealogist, I am discovering many interesting things. One has > been > >the "burden of proof" requisite to making an assertion of fact within the > context > >of genealogy. I have practiced law for many years and the burden of proof is > >different for many cases. > > [snip] > > Walter, and the list: > > Ah, fools rush in where angels fear to tread. I am about to rush in by > using legal terminology when to do so is to risk being shown, if not a > fool, at least rash. I am a computer programmer by trade, with a degree in > Psychology. > > In genealogy, as in court, there are indeed different standards of proof > depending on the circumstances. The burden may be light or heavy, depending > on whether on is trying to convince a reputable journal publisher (such as > for TAG or NEHGR), or one's second cousin who collects dead relatives like > some people collect pennies. Descendant societies are all over the place. > The following "rules" are my opinion, based on the notion that I want the > work I do to be of some value to nearly any future researcher that might > use it. > > Rule One: There is no exclusionary rule. No tree is poison, but many bear > no fruit. It does not matter how one was prompted to look for a particular > document; if the evidence is there, use it. > > Rule Two: Hearsay may be useful, but should be identified as such. This is > the "primary source" rule. An original document bears more weight than > something which quotes it. Yes, birth certificates may be mistaken, but > they are a lot less likely to be in error than the "family story" that has > been passed through at least three generations. > > Rule Three: Find eyewitnesses if possible. This is the "contemporary > source" rule. The further from the date of the event that the record was > created, the less likely to be accurate. It is similar to, but not quite > the same as, Rule Two. > > Rule Four: A record of proceedings should be kept to allow for appeals. > This is the "cite your sources" rule. I have a pedigree in my possession, > made up by a person who had a very good reputation for careful research in > the 1970s, but which supplies no documentation of any kind. It makes > assertions which seem reasonable, and if true would be the equivalent of an > on-the-stand confession of murder from someone who wasn't even a suspect. > The writer is now deceased, and his working papers are no longer with us. > Rule One applies, and I use the pedigree as a clue; but I just don't know > where to look. . . . > > Rule Five: Circumstantial evidence is valuable but must be handled > carefully. The most common violation of this rule in genealogy is the > "name's the same" error. Ask any person on this list about how many "Thomas > Dutton's" they have come across, often in the same town. Be prepared for a > sigh, a groan, maybe even a shriek! > > Rule Six: Evaluate both materiality and relevance. If someone uses a > document to prove a main point, and in the process happens to "mention" > that the document relates to something away from that main point, do not > hold the author to more than she or he actually said. More important, do > not hold the *source* to more than it actually says! > > Rule Seven: "Stare decisis" (the decision stands) should be considered less > solid in genealogy than a feather in a tornado. The problem is that there > is so much JUNK out there, from the deliberate falsification, to the > mistranscription, to the fatuous, to the careless, that only a careful > review of the cited sources (presuming there are any) and a walk through > the author's reasoning can lend credence to the statements made. (This > predates the Internet by millenia, by the way. Kings whose fathers weren't > royalty have always been prone to, er, exaggeration of their predecessors' > worth.<grin>) After a while, one learns that certain writers can be trusted > more than others; but that does not relieve one of the burden of proof > otherwise applying. > > All this is just my opinion, but it IS my opinion! Comments requested. > Arguments welcome, but will all be refuted by my razor-sharp wit. <big grin> > > Darrell > > formerly of the Dutton District > in Springfield, Vermont > currently in exile in Addison, Illinois > darrellm@sprynet.com

This Thomas Dutton and his descendants are the Duttons for which I am also seeking information. I am sure that this must be the Thomas Dutton referenced in the following: 8 Oct 1750. Sussex Co., DE., Deeds Vol H-8, pg 331. Power of Attorney. James Reed to Thomas Dutton, my well beloved friend, to make over my plantation and house, etc., with 200 acres of land. 1 May 1752. Sussex Co., DE., Deeds Vol H-8, pg 331. Thomas Dutton to Lawrence Riley. For 28 pounds, Thomas Dutton (with power of attorney from James Read) sells 200 acres in Broadkiln Hundred to Lawrence Riley. Land is situated on the northeast side of a tract laid out for Christopher Topham, on the northwest side of a tract laid out for ROBERT CALE, and bounded on the other sides by vacant lands or Pemberton Savannah. Land surveyed by William Shankland on 8 Apr 1741 for James Read as by warrant of the Proprietors. Witnesses: John Neill and Alexr Learmouth. This Thomas Dutton could very well have had associations with a Baker family. Johnita ray montgomery wrote: > > Bob > i have a thomas Dutton born circa 1755 and as it is circa 1755 he could > very easily been born 1745. > this thomas is the son of Thomas Dutton Sr and his wife miss Baker of > Sussex Co. Delaware. These duttons where involved in the Ship Building > trade. > the town that they lived in milford Delaware used to have Ships come into > town (ie pulled up the river) and load good oak lumber for ships and > casks. i do not know what all ports they hailed from how ever. > i have no other info i am sorry. > RAY > On Wed, 20 Jan 1999 10:23:11 -0500 (EST) "Robert E. Dutton" > <rdutton@erols.com> writes: > >Ray, > > I have a Thomas Dutton, born about 1745 location unknown. He was a > >marinor and spent most of his life in Newburyport, MA. I have been > >unable > >to link him to any other Mass. or Conn. families. It has been > >suggested to > >me that since he was a marinor he came from a completely different > >location. > >Do you have any Thomas linked to your John Dutton who married in 1743? > > > >Thanks, > >Rob Dutton > > > >At 01:12 AM 1/20/99 EST, you wrote: > >>ah dear Carole > >>i appologize for the confusion. > >>I do know some things about my duttons of Maryland And VA. > >>my duttons start in 1743 in broad kill sussex Co Delaware and it is > >john > >>dutton married to a ????? Elizabeth Stephenson. > >>his father is thomas Dutton who was born 1717 in wimico Co MD and > >married > >>to miss baker the daughter of issac Baker. he is the son of Thomas > >>Dutton born 11 oct 1684 in Accomac Co. Va and he married to Elizabeth > >>Hope. he is the son of john Dutton born about 1650 of Accomac and his > >>wife mary Unknown. as to who is parents are i do not know at this > >time. > >>there was a Debora Dutton in accomac at that time that had an > >>illigitimate child about that time by john cobb. but proof is lacking > >as > >>to whether these are his parents. > >>it would be nice if john decended from sir thomas but alas i dont > >have > >>any evidence that goes that way. > >>i am aware that most of the families of the eastern shore come from > >the > >>western shore. And as thomas dutton was around on the western shore > >there > >>is a chance that he is related to john especialy since thomas is such > >a > >>pronounced name in this dutton line. but as i say i dont see the > >evidence > >>going that direction. > >>Sincerely > >>RAY > >>On Tue, 19 Jan 1999 18:26:07 -0500 Carole Malisiak > ><malisiak@midohio.net> > >>writes: > >>>Hi Ray, > >>> > >>>Did you mean that you have no clue about your Duttons from Accomac > >Co, > >>>VA, or that you have no clue about the Duttons at all! > >>> > >>>I don't know how long you've been on the DUTTON list, but some time > >>>ago > >>>I posted messages pertaining the the Virginia Duttons. I have found > >>>some scanned documents at: > >>>http://eagle.vsla.edu/colonial/virtua.html > >>>regarding Virginia Colonial Records. Richard (1620's) and John > >Dutton > >>>(18something) were mentioned and also Mr. Sandye. Sir Thomas Dutton > >>>and > >>>the Lord of Warwick. These were records pertaining to the Bermuda > >>>Company aka Virginia company. These guys were involved in tobacco > >and > >>>also had 12 negros on board. Do you know anything about these > >people > >>>or > >>>this company (I am trying to find out who owned this company and how > > > >>>are > >>>these Duttons related to the Company and possible to the Duttons in > >>>Virginia. > >>> > >>>Do you know your own genealogy? Can you help out? > >>>Carole Dutton Malisiak > >>> > >>>____________________________ > >>>ray montgomery wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Dear Darrel > >>> > >>>> my Duttons are from Accomac Co VA and i do not have the first clue > > > >>>about > >>>> this family > >>>> Sincerely > >>>> RAY > >>> > >> > >>___________________________________________________________________ > >>You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. > >>Get completely free e-mail from Juno at > >http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html > >>or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] > >> > >> > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________________ > You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. > Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html > or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] -- Johnita P. Malone jmalone@ix.netcom.com Researching: Malone, Reed, Staton, Morrow, Stanley, Plunk, Freestad, Bushong, Wilbanks, Frazier, Meek, Harris, Saylor, James, Perkins, White, Currin, Morris, Gage, Butler, Dodd, Taylor, Lutz, Ruggles, Briggs, Rhea, Ray, Fincher, Jackson, O'Briant, Coburn, Black, Parrish, Barnes, Carey, Betts, Keller, Wymore, Cooke, Jones, Gossett, Smith, Hester, Melton, Hope, Cannaday, Blocksom, Reynolds, Rinker, Snook, Haddon, Betts, Bossert, Gantt, Pryor, Watson, Cole, Shewin, Williams, Wheeler, Fowler, Mitchell, Clendenin, Downing, Pettyjohn, Bowman, Cauffman, Lafferty, Weigel, Lollar, Wood, Morris, Thompson, Burch, Greene

Hi Ray, Below is a Family History Report showing the total data I have ben able to glean from your postings the last few days. Would you let me know if what I have is correct and, if you have anything additional, I would love to add it to my records. While this data is presently in my "unconnected" records, hopefully it will not stay there. If we all work together maybe we can find some of the missing connections. Dick Dutton ================================================ (1) 1 John DUTTON, 8712, M ——————————————————————————— Birth: abt 1650, of Accomac As to who his parents are I do not know at this time. There was a Debora Dutton in Accomac at that time that had an illegitimate child about that time by John Cobb, but proof is lacking as to whether these are his parents. ray montgomery <scruffynerfherdr@juno.com> Spouse: Mary, 8713, F ray montgomery <scruffynerfherdr@juno.com> Children: Thomas, 8710, M (1684-) (2) 1.1 Thomas DUTTON, 8710, M ———————————————————————— Birth: 11 Oct 1684, Accomac Co., VA ray montgomery <scruffynerfherdr@juno.com> Spouse: Elizabeth HOPE, 8711, F ray montgomery <scruffynerfherdr@juno.com> Children: Thomas, 8707, M (1717-) (3) 1.1.1 Thomas DUTTON Sr., 8707, M ————————————————————————— Birth: 1717, Wimico Co., MD These duttons where involved in the Ship Building trade. The town that they lived in, Milford, Delaware, used to have Ships come into town (ie pulled up the river) and load good oak lumber for ships and casks. I do not know what all ports they hailed from how ever. ray montgomery <scruffynerfherdr@juno.com> Spouse: Miss BAKER, 8708, F Birth: of Sussex Co., DE Father: Isaac BAKER, 8709, M ray montgomery <scruffynerfherdr@juno.com> Children: Thomas, 8706, M (1755-) John, 8714, M (4) 1.1.1.1 Thomas DUTTON, 8706, M ——————————————————————————— Birth: c1755 ray montgomery <scruffynerfherdr@juno.com> (4) 1.1.1.2 John DUTTON, 8714, M ——————————————————————— My duttons start in 1743 in broad kill sussex Co Delaware and it is john dutton married to a ????? Elizabeth Stephenson. His father is Thomas Dutton who was born 1717 in wimico Co MD and married to Miss Baker the daughter of issac Baker. he is the son of Thomas Dutton born 11 oct 1684 in Accomac Co. Va and he married to Elizabeth Hope. He is the son of John Dutton born about 1650 of Accomac and his wife Mary Unknown. ray montgomery <scruffynerfherdr@juno.com> Spouse: (Elizabeth STEPHENSON?), 8715, F ray montgomery <scruffynerfherdr@juno.com> ————————————————————— Please report corrections or additions to: Richard A. Dutton 325 Beal Parkway Ft. Walton Beach, FL 32548-3956 850-862-3327 FAX 850-864-1444 E-mail rad@emcst.com

Hello to : Ed Dutton areduton@coffey.com Ron Dutton dutton@cs.ucf.edu The List in general. I have combined the data that I have received from both of you in the last few days. You will find it below. It appears to me that we will not be able to connect your lines with the main DUTTON branch(s) unless someone can make a connection back in England since William is an original immigrant. It also appears that the two of you need to get together (assuming that you have not already done so) since you may be fairly close cousins. Happy Hunting All! Dick Dutton Researching my family tree! Trunk: DUTTON Major branches: ALLEN, BARTLETT, CUTLER, DOGGETT, DUNTEN, DUNTON, JENSON, LAKE, METCALF, PARTRIDGE, REYNOLDS, RICHARDS, SAWYER, SMITH, TRACY, TURNER, WEDGWOOD. Minor branches: ADAMS, ALDEN, BALL, BLACK, BLANCHARD, BREWSTER, BRIMHALL, CARY, COLBURN, HATCH, HOPKINS, HYDE, KIDDER, PERKINS, WARNER, WILLIAMS. Smaller Limbs: ALGER, ANDERSON, CLARK, DAVIS, FRENCH, ULLER, HALL, HARRIS, JOHNSON, KNAPP, McMILLAN, MERRICK, MILLER, MOORE, NELSON PARKER, TUTTLE - And many more. ===================================== (1) 1 William DUTTON, 8697, M ——————————————————— Birth: 9 Jan 1815, England/Ireland? William and two brothers "ran away" and came to America, from Ireland (?). One went to Canada and one went west(?). Ron Dutton <dutton@cs.ucf.edu> Spouse: Julia Ann LATHAM, 8698, F Birth: abt 1815, Maryland Death: 30 Sep 1846, Athens, OH Ron Dutton <dutton@cs.ucf.edu> Children: Enos, 8272, M (1844-1915) (2) 1.1 Enos DUTTON1, 8272, M ————————————————————— Birth: 25 Dec 1844, Athens Co., OH Death: 12 Jul 1915, Penalosa, KS !CENSUS 1860 Ohio, Jefferson County, Blackhawk Twp., PO Fairfield 21 July 1860. Enos DUTTON, age not clear--11 or 14--with Isaac and Juli Ann VOMI and family. Enos and Elyza VOMI age 11 in school. FHL film 803328. !NOTE: See DAVIS family in Lucas County, Iowa in 1860 where Mary DUTTON 14, Isabella 12, and William P. 9 appear to be adopted, born Ohio. Served in Civil War. Fought at Vicksberg under Grant. Came to Kansas in 1876 in a covered wagon. Ron Dutton <dutton@cs.ucf.edu> Spouse: Martha Jane BULLARD1, 8421, F Birth: 10 Mar 1850, Knox Co., IL Death: 23 Mar 1942, Kingman, KS Ron Dutton <dutton@cs.ucf.edu> Marr: 1 Sep 1867, Decatur Co., IA IGI North America LDS FHC birth of child Enos Arland Dutton with duplication of Decatur,,Des Moines and Polk,Des Moines--gives names of his parents. Children: Charles William, 8699, M (1868-) Enos Arland, 8422, M (1870-) Ruben McFarlin, 8700, M (1872-1874) E. Calvin, 8701, M (1874-1877) Martha Viola, 8702, F (1880-1881) Francis Ulysses, 8703, M (1882-) Idella, 8704, F (1884-1971) Jenna Marie, 8705, F (1888-1979) (3) 1.1.1 Charles William DUTTON, 8699, M ————————————————————— Birth: 27 May 1868 Ron Dutton <dutton@cs.ucf.edu> (3) 1.1.2 Enos Arland DUTTON1, 8422, M —————————————————————— Birth: 16 Jan 1870, Des Moines, Polk, Iowa !CENSUS 1860 Ohio, Jefferson County, Blackhawk Twp., PO Fairfield 21 July 1860. Enos DUTTON, age not clear--11 or 14--with Isaac and Juli Ann VOMI and family. Enos and Elyza VOMI age 11 in school. FHL film 803328. IGI North America LDS FHC microfiche gives name of parents and place of birth with duplication in location as Decatur,,Des Moines and Polk,Des Moines--different submitters. !NOTE: See DAVIS family in Lucas County, Iowa in 1860 where Mary DUTTON 14, Isabella 12, and William P. 9 appear to be adopted, born Ohio. (3) 1.1.3 Ruben McFarlin DUTTON, 8700, M ——————————————————————— Birth: 11 Dec 1872 Death: 26 Mar 1874 Ron Dutton <dutton@cs.ucf.edu> (3) 1.1.4 E. Calvin DUTTON, 8701, M —————————————————————— Birth: 26 Sep 1874 Death: 19 Mar 1877 Ron Dutton <dutton@cs.ucf.edu> (3) 1.1.5 Martha Viola DUTTON, 8702, F —————————————————————— Birth: 27 Oct 1880 Death: 25 Sep 1881 Ron Dutton <dutton@cs.ucf.edu> (3) 1.1.6 Francis Ulysses DUTTON, 8703, M —————————————————————— Birth: 1 Mar 1882 Ron Dutton <dutton@cs.ucf.edu> (3) 1.1.7 Idella DUTTON, 8704, F —————————————————————— Birth: 20 Oct 1884 Death: 10 May 1971 Ron Dutton <dutton@cs.ucf.edu> (3) 1.1.8 Jenna Marie DUTTON, 8705, F ——————————————————————— Birth: 29 Nov 1888 Death: 30 Nov 1979 Ron Dutton <dutton@cs.ucf.edu> Sources 1. This data received as part of a gedcom received from Edward Dutton "Edward and Arlene Dutton" <areduton@coffey.com> 1/13/99. ================================================ Name: Isaac VOMI1 ——————————————————————— Birth: abt 1800 NY Spouse: Juli Ann1 —————————————————————— Birth: abt 1815 Maryland Children ————————————————————— 1 M: Kinf VOMI1 Birth: 1844 OH —————————————————————— 2 F: Elyza VOMI1 Birth: abt 1849 OH ——————————————————————— 3 M: Ephraim VOMI1 Birth: abt 1857 OH —————————————————————— 4 M: Enos DUTTON1 (Adopted) Birth: 25 Dec 1844 Athens Co., OH Death: 12 Jul 1915 Penalosa, KS Spouse: Martha Jane BULLARD Marriage: 1 Sep 1867 Decatur Co., IA Notes for Isaac VOMI !CENSUS 1860 Iowa, Jefferson Co., Blackhawk Twp., PO Fairfield, 21 July 1860, page 128/313, dwg 925 family 791; Isaac VOMI age 60 farmer worth 400 personal property and born NY, Juli Ann 45 born Maryland, three VOMI children and Enos DUTTON born Ohio--some names and ages not clear. FHL film 803444. !NOTE: See DAVIS family, Lucas County, Iowa in 1860 where Mary, Isabella, and William P. DUTTON also born Ohio and appear to be adopted. Sources 1. This data received as part of a gedcom received from Edward Dutton "Edward and Arlene Dutton" <areduton@coffey.com> 1/13/99. ——————————————————————————— Please report corrections or additions to: Richard A. Dutton 325 Beal Parkway Ft. Walton Beach, FL 32548-3956 850-862-3327 FAX 850-864-1444 E-mail rad@emcst.com

I recently subscribed to the Dutton list and have been being a voyeur for the past few weeks. I have collected and put together about 60-70 of my known Dutton relatives and, with all the recent discussion, I'm almost proud to say none of them is named John or Thomas (in fact, there is almost no name repeated in those 60-70, which is kind of interesting on its own). I have asked a couple individuals on the list about information on the two ancestors of mine named in the subject, and although they were very nice and helpful, I can't seem to get back any further. So I thought I might as well try the mass mailing route. The information I have on them follows. If any one knows anything about them, I would be glad to hear from you. By the way, almost all of these folks ended up and stayed in Kansas (execpt me and a few few other deserters). The notes listed are "folklore" my mother and father passed along ­ accuracy is/was not a big deal with them. Thanks a lot. If anyone is interested in the rest of them, I'll be glad to reply with an attachment. It is in Word 98 on a Macintosh, but I could send a text file if needed (my profession is Computer Science, but I don't believe in messing with these things anymore than I have too ­ the easier, the better). Ron Dutton Oviedo, FL I. William Dutton b. 9-Jan.-1815 (England/Ireland?). m. Julia Ann Latham, b. ~1815 in Maryland (Irish) d. 30-Sept.-1846, Athens, Ohio. He and two brothers "ran away" and came to America, from Ireland (?). One went to Canada and one went west(?). Children: Enos Dutton b. 25-Dec.-1844, Athens Co., Ohio. II. Enos Dutton b. 25-Dec.-1844, Athens Co., Ohio. m. 1-Sept.-1867, Decatur Co., Iowa. Martha Jane Bullard, b. 10-March-1850, Knox Co., Ill., d. 23-March-1942, Kingman, KS. d. 12-July-1915, Penalosa, KS. Served in Civil War. Fought at Vicksberg under Grant. Came to Kansas in 1876 in a covered wagon. Children: Charles William Dutton b. 27-May-1868. Enos Arland Dutton b. 16-Jan.-1870. Ruben McFarlin Dutton b. 11-Dec.-1872, d. 26-March-1874. E. Calvin Dutton b. 26-Sept.-1874, d. 19-March-1877. Martha Viola Dutton b. 27-Oct.-1880, d. 25-Sept.-1881. Francis Ulysses Dutton b. 1-March-1882. Idella Dutton b. 20-Oct.-1884, d. 10-May-1971. Jenna Marie Dutton b. 29-Nov.-1888, d. 30-Nov.-1979.

Bob i have a thomas Dutton born circa 1755 and as it is circa 1755 he could very easily been born 1745. this thomas is the son of Thomas Dutton Sr and his wife miss Baker of Sussex Co. Delaware. These duttons where involved in the Ship Building trade. the town that they lived in milford Delaware used to have Ships come into town (ie pulled up the river) and load good oak lumber for ships and casks. i do not know what all ports they hailed from how ever. i have no other info i am sorry. RAY On Wed, 20 Jan 1999 10:23:11 -0500 (EST) "Robert E. Dutton" <rdutton@erols.com> writes: >Ray, > I have a Thomas Dutton, born about 1745 location unknown. He was a >marinor and spent most of his life in Newburyport, MA. I have been >unable >to link him to any other Mass. or Conn. families. It has been >suggested to >me that since he was a marinor he came from a completely different >location. >Do you have any Thomas linked to your John Dutton who married in 1743? > >Thanks, >Rob Dutton > >At 01:12 AM 1/20/99 EST, you wrote: >>ah dear Carole >>i appologize for the confusion. >>I do know some things about my duttons of Maryland And VA. >>my duttons start in 1743 in broad kill sussex Co Delaware and it is >john >>dutton married to a ????? Elizabeth Stephenson. >>his father is thomas Dutton who was born 1717 in wimico Co MD and >married >>to miss baker the daughter of issac Baker. he is the son of Thomas >>Dutton born 11 oct 1684 in Accomac Co. Va and he married to Elizabeth >>Hope. he is the son of john Dutton born about 1650 of Accomac and his >>wife mary Unknown. as to who is parents are i do not know at this >time. >>there was a Debora Dutton in accomac at that time that had an >>illigitimate child about that time by john cobb. but proof is lacking >as >>to whether these are his parents. >>it would be nice if john decended from sir thomas but alas i dont >have >>any evidence that goes that way. >>i am aware that most of the families of the eastern shore come from >the >>western shore. And as thomas dutton was around on the western shore >there >>is a chance that he is related to john especialy since thomas is such >a >>pronounced name in this dutton line. but as i say i dont see the >evidence >>going that direction. >>Sincerely >>RAY >>On Tue, 19 Jan 1999 18:26:07 -0500 Carole Malisiak ><malisiak@midohio.net> >>writes: >>>Hi Ray, >>> >>>Did you mean that you have no clue about your Duttons from Accomac >Co, >>>VA, or that you have no clue about the Duttons at all! >>> >>>I don't know how long you've been on the DUTTON list, but some time >>>ago >>>I posted messages pertaining the the Virginia Duttons. I have found >>>some scanned documents at: >>>http://eagle.vsla.edu/colonial/virtua.html >>>regarding Virginia Colonial Records. Richard (1620's) and John >Dutton >>>(18something) were mentioned and also Mr. Sandye. Sir Thomas Dutton >>>and >>>the Lord of Warwick. These were records pertaining to the Bermuda >>>Company aka Virginia company. These guys were involved in tobacco >and >>>also had 12 negros on board. Do you know anything about these >people >>>or >>>this company (I am trying to find out who owned this company and how > >>>are >>>these Duttons related to the Company and possible to the Duttons in >>>Virginia. >>> >>>Do you know your own genealogy? Can you help out? >>>Carole Dutton Malisiak >>> >>>____________________________ >>>ray montgomery wrote: >>>> >>>> Dear Darrel >>> >>>> my Duttons are from Accomac Co VA and i do not have the first clue > >>>about >>>> this family >>>> Sincerely >>>> RAY >>> >> >>___________________________________________________________________ >>You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. >>Get completely free e-mail from Juno at >http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html >>or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] >> >> > > ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

> Survey Report 00987 > pg. 17 > no. 278 17 October 1620. Summer Islands. John Dutton to the Earl of > Warwick. Not Virginiana, but the following sentence on p. 3 may be > important:- Warwick would be well advised "not to have any thinge to > doe with Captaine Kendall who is now come out, who your Lordship should > fynd a very sillye man, but a fitt instrument for Sir Edwin Sandes to > use in the abuse of your honour if he be so inclynd." 4pp. Page 4 has > two endorsements and the address. (Eighth Report, 35b.) > Just a little humor here --- So is this why we find the Kendalls living so close to the Duttons in Sussex Co., DE.? Johnita

Darrell, I like your rules. They make sense. Genealogy is a special form of history - family history. And good research in history requires good research techniques, foremost among them keeping good and copious notes and identifying all original sources. But, unlike economic history or history of science, or cultural history, family history research is mostly done by hobbyists in their leisure time. Also, their audience tends to be their immediate family, who don't insist on very high burdens of proof. If a specific connection has been "proven" or "disproven" in a respected genealogical journal, I will tend to take that at face value - unless I have been researching the same connection and have discovered new evidence that would call the author's conclusions into question. About 50 years ago my grandmother wanted to be a member of the DAR. She had to prove her line. She had amassed a lot of material from family bibles and recollections of her aunts and uncles. She was sure that she had 3 ancestors who fought in the Revolution. But the DAR never accepted her proof. She was mortified and never had a good thing to say about the DAR thereafter. She passed on her research material to me when I was about 12. When I first took an interest in really going through it, I began to wonder about her "proof". I decided that the DAR was right - though I never told her that. My point is that in this case the DAR was acting as a validator - setting a threshold of proof that my grandmother couldn't meet. And my family generalogy is actually better for it. Now we face Internet communication speeds and software that allows the sharing of hundreds or thousands of individuals from amateur genealogist to amateur genealogist. That has great promise but it also has great risks. Questionable information can move at the speed of light just as valid information can. We need high standards if our collective work is not to degenerate to suppositions and desires and guesses as my granmother's work did at times. Doug -----Original Message----- From: Darrell A. Martin <darrellm@sprynet.com> To: DUTTON-L@rootsweb.com <DUTTON-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Wednesday, January 20, 1999 9:07 PM Subject: Re: burden of proof >At 01:46 PM 01/20/1999 -0800, Walter Lundstein (novelist@adnc.com) wrote: >>Darrell, et al: >> >>As a novice genealogist, I am discovering many interesting things. One has >been >>the "burden of proof" requisite to making an assertion of fact within the >context >>of genealogy. I have practiced law for many years and the burden of proof is >>different for many cases. > >[snip] > >Walter, and the list: > >Ah, fools rush in where angels fear to tread. I am about to rush in by >using legal terminology when to do so is to risk being shown, if not a >fool, at least rash. I am a computer programmer by trade, with a degree in >Psychology. > >In genealogy, as in court, there are indeed different standards of proof >depending on the circumstances. The burden may be light or heavy, depending >on whether on is trying to convince a reputable journal publisher (such as >for TAG or NEHGR), or one's second cousin who collects dead relatives like >some people collect pennies. Descendant societies are all over the place. >The following "rules" are my opinion, based on the notion that I want the >work I do to be of some value to nearly any future researcher that might >use it. > >Rule One: There is no exclusionary rule. No tree is poison, but many bear >no fruit. It does not matter how one was prompted to look for a particular >document; if the evidence is there, use it. > >Rule Two: Hearsay may be useful, but should be identified as such. This is >the "primary source" rule. An original document bears more weight than >something which quotes it. Yes, birth certificates may be mistaken, but >they are a lot less likely to be in error than the "family story" that has >been passed through at least three generations. > >Rule Three: Find eyewitnesses if possible. This is the "contemporary >source" rule. The further from the date of the event that the record was >created, the less likely to be accurate. It is similar to, but not quite >the same as, Rule Two. > >Rule Four: A record of proceedings should be kept to allow for appeals. >This is the "cite your sources" rule. I have a pedigree in my possession, >made up by a person who had a very good reputation for careful research in >the 1970s, but which supplies no documentation of any kind. It makes >assertions which seem reasonable, and if true would be the equivalent of an >on-the-stand confession of murder from someone who wasn't even a suspect. >The writer is now deceased, and his working papers are no longer with us. >Rule One applies, and I use the pedigree as a clue; but I just don't know >where to look. . . . > >Rule Five: Circumstantial evidence is valuable but must be handled >carefully. The most common violation of this rule in genealogy is the >"name's the same" error. Ask any person on this list about how many "Thomas >Dutton's" they have come across, often in the same town. Be prepared for a >sigh, a groan, maybe even a shriek! > >Rule Six: Evaluate both materiality and relevance. If someone uses a >document to prove a main point, and in the process happens to "mention" >that the document relates to something away from that main point, do not >hold the author to more than she or he actually said. More important, do >not hold the *source* to more than it actually says! > >Rule Seven: "Stare decisis" (the decision stands) should be considered less >solid in genealogy than a feather in a tornado. The problem is that there >is so much JUNK out there, from the deliberate falsification, to the >mistranscription, to the fatuous, to the careless, that only a careful >review of the cited sources (presuming there are any) and a walk through >the author's reasoning can lend credence to the statements made. (This >predates the Internet by millenia, by the way. Kings whose fathers weren't >royalty have always been prone to, er, exaggeration of their predecessors' >worth.<grin>) After a while, one learns that certain writers can be trusted >more than others; but that does not relieve one of the burden of proof >otherwise applying. > >All this is just my opinion, but it IS my opinion! Comments requested. >Arguments welcome, but will all be refuted by my razor-sharp wit. <big grin> > >Darrell > >formerly of the Dutton District >in Springfield, Vermont >currently in exile in Addison, Illinois > darrellm@sprynet.com > >

WoW!!! What he said. Mike

At 01:46 PM 01/20/1999 -0800, Walter Lundstein (novelist@adnc.com) wrote: >Darrell, et al: > >As a novice genealogist, I am discovering many interesting things. One has been >the "burden of proof" requisite to making an assertion of fact within the context >of genealogy. I have practiced law for many years and the burden of proof is >different for many cases. [snip] Walter, and the list: Ah, fools rush in where angels fear to tread. I am about to rush in by using legal terminology when to do so is to risk being shown, if not a fool, at least rash. I am a computer programmer by trade, with a degree in Psychology. In genealogy, as in court, there are indeed different standards of proof depending on the circumstances. The burden may be light or heavy, depending on whether on is trying to convince a reputable journal publisher (such as for TAG or NEHGR), or one's second cousin who collects dead relatives like some people collect pennies. Descendant societies are all over the place. The following "rules" are my opinion, based on the notion that I want the work I do to be of some value to nearly any future researcher that might use it. Rule One: There is no exclusionary rule. No tree is poison, but many bear no fruit. It does not matter how one was prompted to look for a particular document; if the evidence is there, use it. Rule Two: Hearsay may be useful, but should be identified as such. This is the "primary source" rule. An original document bears more weight than something which quotes it. Yes, birth certificates may be mistaken, but they are a lot less likely to be in error than the "family story" that has been passed through at least three generations. Rule Three: Find eyewitnesses if possible. This is the "contemporary source" rule. The further from the date of the event that the record was created, the less likely to be accurate. It is similar to, but not quite the same as, Rule Two. Rule Four: A record of proceedings should be kept to allow for appeals. This is the "cite your sources" rule. I have a pedigree in my possession, made up by a person who had a very good reputation for careful research in the 1970s, but which supplies no documentation of any kind. It makes assertions which seem reasonable, and if true would be the equivalent of an on-the-stand confession of murder from someone who wasn't even a suspect. The writer is now deceased, and his working papers are no longer with us. Rule One applies, and I use the pedigree as a clue; but I just don't know where to look. . . . Rule Five: Circumstantial evidence is valuable but must be handled carefully. The most common violation of this rule in genealogy is the "name's the same" error. Ask any person on this list about how many "Thomas Dutton's" they have come across, often in the same town. Be prepared for a sigh, a groan, maybe even a shriek! Rule Six: Evaluate both materiality and relevance. If someone uses a document to prove a main point, and in the process happens to "mention" that the document relates to something away from that main point, do not hold the author to more than she or he actually said. More important, do not hold the *source* to more than it actually says! Rule Seven: "Stare decisis" (the decision stands) should be considered less solid in genealogy than a feather in a tornado. The problem is that there is so much JUNK out there, from the deliberate falsification, to the mistranscription, to the fatuous, to the careless, that only a careful review of the cited sources (presuming there are any) and a walk through the author's reasoning can lend credence to the statements made. (This predates the Internet by millenia, by the way. Kings whose fathers weren't royalty have always been prone to, er, exaggeration of their predecessors' worth.<grin>) After a while, one learns that certain writers can be trusted more than others; but that does not relieve one of the burden of proof otherwise applying. All this is just my opinion, but it IS my opinion! Comments requested. Arguments welcome, but will all be refuted by my razor-sharp wit. <big grin> Darrell formerly of the Dutton District in Springfield, Vermont currently in exile in Addison, Illinois darrellm@sprynet.com

ray montgomery wrote: > Carole > could you resend these messages about the VA duttons to me????????? > Please????? so you know i am on my knees here!LOL > RAY ____________________________ Hi Ray, The messages I sent were very brief, summaries of some of the documents that I had read. I have typed up the parts that had any info re the Duttons. All typos and spellings are kept as is. This is probably not what you are hoping for, but I thought it was interesting! Carole Virginia Colonial Records Project Survey Report No 07128 Depository: Berkshire Record Office Class: Trumbull MSS Title: Alphabetical Correspondence, volume XXXII Dates: 1609-1622 Note: Letters from John More in London to William Trumbull in Brussels no. 17 13 December 1610 Discusses parliamentary and Court affairs. "Yt is advertised from Seville that one of the Kings of Barbary hath delivered Oloroche into the Spaniards handes; which yf it be trew, is by this time stale news in your quarters. for our partes we are the lesse sorry for it at this present, because theyr Men and mony thus diverted, wee finde our selves the more secure for our plantacions in Ireland and Virginia. Sir Noel Caron begins to tamper with our Virginia Marchants, to ioyne some of the States people in that plantacion, and allso to ioyne with us in the East Indie trade; but we fear, that yf we ioyne, theyr arte and industrie will wear our people out of both." Spanish Ambassador has demanded delivery of a French privateer cast up on the west coast of England after taking a Spanish ship, but the Lord Treasurer wholly favours the French. Ten days ago 4 priests escaped through the wall at Newgate, two others caught sliding down a ropewere [sic] hanged at Tyburn last Monday. Sir Thomas Dutton has returned. W.T. will know that Dr Langton is President of Magdalen and that Sanford will go with Sir John Digby to Spain." Survey Report 00987 pg: 16 no. 261 20 January 1619 Summer Islands [i.e., Bermuda Islands]. John Dutton to the Earl of Warwick, giving an account of his voyage to the Bermudas. Mr. Daniel Elfred, after having done "some exployte (undoubtedly upon the Spanyard)" then went to Virginia, but not meeting there "the entertainement he expected" he proceeded to the Summer Islands with 29 negroes, 2 chests of grain, 2 chests of wax, and some tallow. Survey Report 00987 pg. 17 no. 278 17 October 1620. Summer Islands. John Dutton to the Earl of Warwick. Not Virginiana, but the following sentence on p. 3 may be important:- Warwick would be well advised "not to have any thinge to doe with Captaine Kendall who is now come out, who your Lordship should fynd a very sillye man, but a fitt instrument for Sir Edwin Sandes to use in the abuse of your honour if he be so inclynd." 4pp. Page 4 has two endorsements and the address. (Eighth Report, 35b.) Survey Report 00987 pg. 21 no. 292 4 December 1621. Summer Islands, "by the waye of Virginia". John Dutton to Sir Nathaniel Rich on Bermuda affairs. 4pp., with pp.2 and 3 blank. Page 4 has endoresement and address. Stained, and slightly worn at edges. (Eighth Report, 37b.) Survey Report 06719 Depository: Magdalene College, Cambridge Class: Ferrar Papers, Box 'Virginia' Nos. 1361 & 1371 Dates: 17 March 1622/23 "The Court was appointed by that held in the morning to examine the grievances of the inhabitants of the Summer Islands, the first article of which complained....The fourth article was next read, to which Mr. Meverell replied that the ....It was agreed that the Company's books should be examined to see by what authority Dutton was sent to the Summer Islands, what agreement was made with him, and on what grounds his allowance was taken from him." This Court is a very long document of grievances regarding parishes and ministers, tobacco prices, complaints about the goverment and freedom and liberty, and profit and loss. I cut out most of it. Lastly_____ Survey Report 04121 Depository: Principal Probate Registry Title: Will of andrew Browne "Will of Andrew Browne of the parish of St. Botolph without Aldgate, Mdx. [not readable], mariner. Names his wife Ann Brown his attorney, to collect his debts, wages, etc., leaves her his whole estate, and appoints her sole executrix. Signed 24 July 1685. Witness Sherrington Farewell, Henry Dutton, Robert Hill. Probate London 5 Oct 1702 to Ann Brown. P.A.B. states that testator was late of the ship "Mary," died in Virginia.