Mike. You wrote: "It is almost certain that Hendrick Hendrickson of Middletown, NJ and father of Hendrick and Geesje, is not the same person as Hendrick Hendrickson, husband of Helena Cortelyou." Wow we have gone full circle on this once again and we are where we started at the beginning of this conversation several months ago. You may be right, however, you forgot about the Monmouth Co., Deed dated 31 May 1731 where Hendrick Hendrickson of Middletown sells the land on Cooper's Brook he bought of "Abraham Emans & Margreta his wife by deed bearing the date the eighteenth Day of September Anno Dom: 1718", to Tunis Denys bearing the mark of H H. I don't seem to have the 1718 Monmouth Co., Deed but if it lists Hendrick Hendrickson as being from New Utrecht then we must assume that the Hendrick who married Helena Cortelyou and the Hendrick who was the parent of Geesje, Jannetje and Hendrick were the same, however if it lists Hendrick as being from Middletown in 1718 then I think you are right, they were not the same individual. Del ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Morrissey" <mikemorr@hotmail.com> To: <dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 16, 2013 7:15 PM Subject: [DUTCH-COLONIES] Hendrick Hendrickson and Van Dyke Families Chris and Jeff, A few comments: Chris wrote: > That Hendrick was married to both Trijntie Van Dyck and Helena Cortelyou is > likely based upon the comparison of his mark HH on various deeds, as was It is not clear from the deed which daughter of Achias Van Dyck Hendrick Hendrickson married. She could have been 1) Susanna, baptized 15 May 1679 at the DRC of Flatbush 2) Tryntje, baptized 07 Oct 1680 at the DRC of Flatbush 3) some other undocumented daughter (though that seems unlikely) (see Flatbush Church Records, Vol 1, David Voorhees, pgs 391 & 401) Chris wrote: > After looking at these possibilities myself, and looking through the > various baptism, probate and deed records, it is apparent to me that the > children Hendrick and Geesje, stated to be children of Helena Cortelyou, > must instead be children of Trijntje Van Dyck, Hendrick's first wife. It is almost certain that Hendrick Hendrickson of Middletown, NJ and father of Hendrick and Geesje, is not the same person as Hendrick Hendrickson, husband of Helena Cortelyou. 1) their marks are different. The mark used on the deed of the heirs of Achias Van Dyck (a double H with no space between the Hs is used consistently by the husband of Helena Cortelyou in various records. However, the mark of Hendrick Hendrickson of Middletown, NJ is a crossed I and an H, as appears in a deed of on 1 July 1706 to Jaret Schenck land purchased from Hendrick Van Dyck (more later on that). Monmouth County Deeds, Vol E, folio 120. 2) They lived in different places. - Hendrick Hendrickson, husband of Helena, is of Kings Co in the 1708 deed of the heirs of Achias Van Dyck. He is of New Utrecht in several records from 1708 through the late 1720s, some cited earlier on this list in a discussion on Hendrick Hendrickson. - Hendrick Hendrickson of Middletown is mentioned several times in that same time period as living in Middletown: a) 3 Apr 1701 Hendrick Van Dyke of Kings Co., purchased land in Monmouth Co., NJ for £300 from David Stouut. As witness, Hendrick Hendrickse made his mark, East Jersey Land Records, Abstracted by Richard Hutchinson, Book 1, pg 366, on pg 119. b) 10 Nov 1705[?]. Hendrick Van Dyke and Jonica, his wife, of Brookland Twp., Kings Co., Nassau Island, NY sells to Hendrick Hendrickse, of Monmouth Co., East N. for £300, for a tr. of land in Monmouth Co., at a place Called Romanis or Hop River, beg. by Hop River at a point 90 chains from Obadiah Browne's line. East Jersey Land Records, Abstracted by Richard Hutchinson, Book 1, pg 366, on pg 119. This is the same land Hendick witnessed the purchase of in 1701 and sold to Jarret Schenck in 1706. c) 13 Oct 1713. Memorandum of Drift Ways. …several dift wasy in Middletown… Mohoras Run, from Daniel to Hendrick Hendrickson…Monmouth County Deeds, Book D, pg 206, abstracted by Richard Hutchinson In Monmouth County New Jersey Deeds, Books A, B, C and D, at pg 135. d) 1 Nov 1727. John Browne, Garret Schanck, & Daniel Hendricks, Exec. of Will of Obadiah Browne, late of Middletown, Monmouth Co., NJ.....by land of Hendrick Hendrickson, Sr., Daniel Hendricks'.... East New Jersey Land Records, 1702 - 1717, Books H, I and Little K, by Richard Hutchinson, at pg 215. Chris wrote: > Also note that Hendrick Hendrickze and his wife, Trijntje (surname not > given) had a child, Jannetje, baptized at Brooklyn, 29 May 1705. See: A. P. > G. Jos. van der Linde, Old First Dutch Reformed Church of Brooklyn, New > York: First Book of Records, 1660-1752. New York Historical Manuscripts: > Dutch. Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., 1983., p. 149. The > witnesses for the baptism were Claas van Dijk and Jannetje van Dijk. > (Jannetje van Dijk could be Trijntje Van Dijk's sister, while Claas van > Dijk would be the husband of Francijntje Hendricks). It is not clear which Hendrick Hendrickson is the father in this record. 1) As noted above, it is not certain which daughter of Achias Van Dyck married Hendrick Hendrickson. 2) Though they lived in Middletown, NJ, William Hendrickson had his son baptized at the DRC of Brooklyn on the same day (same reference as above), so Hendrick and William may have made the trip from Middletown together. 3) The witness, Jannetje Van Dyck, could be the wife of Hendrick Van Dyck, the same couple that sold Hendrick Hendrickson land in 1705 (see above). The same Hendrick Van Dyck and his second wife, Engeltje, were witnesses for Hendrick Hendrickson's granddaughter, Geesje, 30 years later, at the DRC of New Utrecht: 23 Oct [1737] Geesje, Nicholas Van Brunt, Geesje [Hendrickse] s.v., Hendrick Van Dyck, Engeltje s.v. [NYGBR vol 1982, pg 75] What the relationship was between Hendrick Van Dyck and Hendrick Hendrickson is not clear, but I think there is enough of a connection to reasonably suggest that Hendrick Van Dyck's wife may have been the witness. Thus neither witness may be closely connected to the family of Achias Van Dyck. One side bit of information: The baptismal record of Achais Van Dyck was not included in the article in the NYGBR (sorry, I don't remember the issue) about the baptismal records of the children of Jan Thomas Van Dyck and Trynje Achias Haegen. The index record of his baptismal record reads: Gucken, Jan, Achemius, Trijn, Aachijmijus, 02-11-1642, Oude Kerk, Hervormd, DTB 7, p.342 I have not read the article, so I don't know if it explains the surname "Gucken", but all the other baptismal records for his family use some version of that name, e.g. Guecke, Geleken, Guertsz, Goiken, Gueken, Geucksz. 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Del, It is possible that Hendrick Hendrickson, husband of Helena Cortelyou, moved to Middletown towards the end of his life, but he did not live there until after 1730. He was in New Utrectht until 1727 when he gives power of attorney to his step-son, Jacques Denys, on 28 Apr 1727 (note that Hendrick Hendrickson Jr. of Middletown turned 21 that year and was not given the power of attorney). See Reminiscences of Old New Utrecht and Gowanus, by Mrs. Bleeker Bangs, pg 42. In 1720 Hendrick and Helen sell the property they are living on in New Utrecth to Jacques Denys. Jacques then executes an agreement to allow his mother and step-father to live there without hassle for as long as his mother is alive, plus 2 years. Kings Co. Conveyances, Liber 4, pg 260. I don't know when Helen died, but it could be that after 2 years Hendrick decided to leave. I think there are 2 deeds that state or imply that Hendrick Hendrickson, husband of Helen Cortelyou, was living in New Jersey at the end of his life. Hendrick Hendrickson, Jacques Denyse and Abraham Emans of Freehold (unreadable) all of this county of Monmouth, province of New Jersey... sell to Stephen Amack 96 ½ acres purchased by Hendrick Hendrickson and Jacques Denyse of New Utrecht on 1 May 1719; by deed dated 5 May 1730. The mark of Hendrick Hendrickson is difficult to read, but begins H with something following, but is possibly a double HH. Monmouth County Deeds, Vol H, pg 114. This appears to state that Hendrick and Jacques were of New Utrecth in 1719, but that they were all of Freehold, not Middletown, in 1730. I don't think Jacques Denyse ever lived in Freehold (his will was written in July 1739 and states he was of New Utrecht at that time), so the residence may only apply to Abraham whom I believe was living in Freehold. It is not clear, but I think the residence of Hendrick Hendrickson and Jacques Denyse is not stated at the beginning of the deed because it was the same as their residence on the original deed, i.e. New Utrecht. In either case, it was not Middletown. The second deed, the one of 31 May 1731 to Teunis Denyse, a year later, does say that Hendrick Hendrickson was of Middletown (Monmouth County Deeds, Vol H, pg 57.) The land in the deed was probably in Freehold, see The New York Genealogical and Biographical Record, Volume 49, "Teunis Denyse of Freehold", by Helen Linklean Fairchild, pg 354. Nothing earlier indicates that Hendrick Hendrickson, h/o Helena, had any land or family in Middletown. He had numerous land transactions in Freehold and until a short time earlier was not living in Middletown, so I take this indication of his residence in Middletown with some reserve. So, while the two Hendrick Hendricksons may have lived in Middletown at the same time for a short time, but they clearly are two men living mostly in two different places. Mike Morrissey > From: dleavitt@cableone.net > To: dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com > Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2013 10:59:45 -0600 > Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] Hendrick Hendrickson and Van Dyke Families > > Mike. > > You wrote: > > "It is almost certain that Hendrick Hendrickson of Middletown, NJ and father of Hendrick and Geesje, is not the same person as Hendrick Hendrickson, husband of Helena Cortelyou." > > Wow we have gone full circle on this once again and we are where we started at the beginning of this conversation several months ago. > > You may be right, however, you forgot about the Monmouth Co., Deed dated 31 May 1731 where Hendrick Hendrickson of Middletown sells the land on Cooper's Brook he bought of "Abraham Emans & Margreta his wife by deed bearing the date the eighteenth Day of September Anno Dom: 1718", to Tunis Denys bearing the mark of H H. > > I don't seem to have the 1718 Monmouth Co., Deed but if it lists Hendrick Hendrickson as being from New Utrecht then we must assume that the Hendrick who married Helena Cortelyou and the Hendrick who was the parent of Geesje, Jannetje and Hendrick were the same, however if it lists Hendrick as being from Middletown in 1718 then I think you are right, they were not the same individual. Del