Mike, >The second deed, the one of 31 May 1731 to Teunis Denyse, a year later, >does >say that Hendrick Hendrickson was of Middletown (Monmouth County >Deeds, >Vol H, pg 57.)" I am not so sure that this deed belongs to the Hendrick Hendrickson who married Helena Cortelyou as the H H mark on it is widely spaced and has {seal} written in between. So if you are right and there were two Hendricks then the 1718 deed that it cites might prove this one way or another. If it lists a Hendrick Hendrickson from Middletown then we defiantly know there were two of them since the HH who married Helena Cortelyou was defiantly living in NY at that time. If it is between Abram Emans and the HH living in New Utrecht or "On the Narrows" then I think that it opens up the debate again as it indicates that Hendrick's mark varies a bit as recorded by the Monmouth County Recorder as Chris has pointed out. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Morrissey" <mikemorr@hotmail.com> To: <dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2013 1:10 PM Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] Hendrick Hendrickson and Van Dyke Families Del, It is possible that Hendrick Hendrickson, husband of Helena Cortelyou, moved to Middletown towards the end of his life, but he did not live there until after 1730. He was in New Utrectht until 1727 when he gives power of attorney to his step-son, Jacques Denys, on 28 Apr 1727 (note that Hendrick Hendrickson Jr. of Middletown turned 21 that year and was not given the power of attorney). See Reminiscences of Old New Utrecht and Gowanus, by Mrs. Bleeker Bangs, pg 42. In 1720 Hendrick and Helen sell the property they are living on in New Utrecth to Jacques Denys. Jacques then executes an agreement to allow his mother and step-father to live there without hassle for as long as his mother is alive, plus 2 years. Kings Co. Conveyances, Liber 4, pg 260. I don't know when Helen died, but it could be that after 2 years Hendrick decided to leave. I think there are 2 deeds that state or imply that Hendrick Hendrickson, husband of Helen Cortelyou, was living in New Jersey at the end of his life. Hendrick Hendrickson, Jacques Denyse and Abraham Emans of Freehold (unreadable) all of this county of Monmouth, province of New Jersey... sell to Stephen Amack 96 ½ acres purchased by Hendrick Hendrickson and Jacques Denyse of New Utrecht on 1 May 1719; by deed dated 5 May 1730. The mark of Hendrick Hendrickson is difficult to read, but begins H with something following, but is possibly a double HH. Monmouth County Deeds, Vol H, pg 114. This appears to state that Hendrick and Jacques were of New Utrecth in 1719, but that they were all of Freehold, not Middletown, in 1730. I don't think Jacques Denyse ever lived in Freehold (his will was written in July 1739 and states he was of New Utrecht at that time), so the residence may only apply to Abraham whom I believe was living in Freehold. It is not clear, but I think the residence of Hendrick Hendrickson and Jacques Denyse is not stated at the beginning of the deed because it was the same as their residence on the original deed, i.e. New Utrecht. In either case, it was not Middletown. The second deed, the one of 31 May 1731 to Teunis Denyse, a year later, does say that Hendrick Hendrickson was of Middletown (Monmouth County Deeds, Vol H, pg 57.) The land in the deed was probably in Freehold, see The New York Genealogical and Biographical Record, Volume 49, "Teunis Denyse of Freehold", by Helen Linklean Fairchild, pg 354. Nothing earlier indicates that Hendrick Hendrickson, h/o Helena, had any land or family in Middletown. He had numerous land transactions in Freehold and until a short time earlier was not living in Middletown, so I take this indication of his residence in Middletown with some reserve. So, while the two Hendrick Hendricksons may have lived in Middletown at the same time for a short time, but they clearly are two men living mostly in two different places. Mike Morrissey > From: dleavitt@cableone.net > To: dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com > Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2013 10:59:45 -0600 > Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] Hendrick Hendrickson and Van Dyke Families > > Mike. > > You wrote: > > "It is almost certain that Hendrick Hendrickson of Middletown, NJ and > father of Hendrick and Geesje, is not the same person as Hendrick > Hendrickson, husband of Helena Cortelyou." > > Wow we have gone full circle on this once again and we are where we > started at the beginning of this conversation several months ago. > > You may be right, however, you forgot about the Monmouth Co., Deed dated > 31 May 1731 where Hendrick Hendrickson of Middletown sells the land on > Cooper's Brook he bought of "Abraham Emans & Margreta his wife by deed > bearing the date the eighteenth Day of September Anno Dom: 1718", to Tunis > Denys bearing the mark of H H. > > I don't seem to have the 1718 Monmouth Co., Deed but if it lists Hendrick > Hendrickson as being from New Utrecht then we must assume that the > Hendrick who married Helena Cortelyou and the Hendrick who was the parent > of Geesje, Jannetje and Hendrick were the same, however if it lists > Hendrick as being from Middletown in 1718 then I think you are right, they > were not the same individual. 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Del, You wrote: > > You may be right, however, you forgot about the Monmouth Co., Deed dated > > 31 May 1731 where Hendrick Hendrickson of Middletown sells the land on > > Cooper's Brook he bought of "Abraham Emans & Margreta his wife by deed > > bearing the date the eighteenth Day of September Anno Dom: 1718", to Tunis > > Denys bearing the mark of H H. I will send you the copy of the 1718 deed. This 1731 deed appears to be a later recording, which modifications, of a deed recorded in Kings Co. Conveyances, Liber 4, pg 200. 1) The consideration in the 1718 deed is £350 vs the 1731 deed where the consideration is £500 2) In 1718 the purchasers are both Jacques and Teunis DeNuys. In 1731 the purchaser is just Teunis. "This indenture made and concluded on the twenty seventh day of October ... 1718, between Hendrick Hendrickson of the township of New Utrecht in Kings County on Nassau Island in the province of Newyork yeoman and Jaques DeNuys and Tunis DeNuys of the township county island and province aforesd yeom on the other part.... All that certain moikey? of that Plantation or tract of land situate lying and being in the County of Monmouth in the province of New Jersey Beginning at the meeting of Coopers brook with the Mine Brook.......and so as the sd Hendrick Hendrickse bought of Abraham Emans except that part of said land which Abraham Emans hath sold to Hendrick Verwye." The above (except for the mention of Abraham's wife and Hendrick Verwye) and the rest of the description of the property is almost the exact same wording in both deeds, including a reference to Nicholas Lake as the current owner of land bordering the property. His is probably the Nicholas Lake who had his son, Jacobus, baptized at the DRC of Freehold in 1721 [GMNJ 22:87], but beginning in 1723 had his children baptized at the First Reformed Church of New Brunswick [PNJHS 11:209, and following ]. While he could have still owned the property, that seems unlikely. Though a number deeds for Hendrick Hendrickson on New Utrecht are recorded, I don't see one where Jacques and Teunis sell their land back to Hendrick. It seems to me they may have just renegotiated the original deal between themselves and only recorded the final deal in Monmouth County. I still question the reference to his residence in Middletown as the 1731 deed seems to mostly be a modification of the previous one, but even if correct, Hendrick had only lived at Middletown for at most a year as the 1730 deed implies. Hendrick Hendrickson of Middletown appears to have lived at Middletown consistently from 1701 through 1727. Mike Morrissey > From: dleavitt@cableone.net > To: dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com > Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2013 13:52:00 -0600 > Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] Hendrick Hendrickson and Van Dyke Families > > > Mike, > > > >The second deed, the one of 31 May 1731 to Teunis Denyse, a year later, > >does >say that Hendrick Hendrickson was of Middletown (Monmouth County > >Deeds, >Vol H, pg 57.)" > > I am not so sure that this deed belongs to the Hendrick Hendrickson who > married Helena Cortelyou as the H H mark on it is widely spaced and has > {seal} written in between. So if you are right and there were two Hendricks > then the 1718 deed that it cites might prove this one way or another. If it > lists a Hendrick Hendrickson from Middletown then we defiantly know there > were two of them since the HH who married Helena Cortelyou was defiantly > living in NY at that time. If it is between Abram Emans and the HH living > in New Utrecht or "On the Narrows" then I think that it opens up the debate > again as it indicates that Hendrick's mark varies a bit as recorded by the > Monmouth County Recorder as Chris has pointed out. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Michael Morrissey" <mikemorr@hotmail.com> > To: <dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2013 1:10 PM > Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] Hendrick Hendrickson and Van Dyke Families > > > Del, > > It is possible that Hendrick Hendrickson, husband of Helena Cortelyou, moved > to Middletown towards the end of his life, but he did not live there until > after 1730. > > He was in New Utrectht until 1727 when he gives power of attorney to his > step-son, Jacques Denys, on 28 Apr 1727 (note that Hendrick Hendrickson Jr. > of Middletown turned 21 that year and was not given the power of attorney). > See Reminiscences of Old New Utrecht and Gowanus, by Mrs. Bleeker Bangs, pg > 42. > > In 1720 Hendrick and Helen sell the property they are living on in New > Utrecth to Jacques Denys. Jacques then executes an agreement to allow his > mother and step-father to live there without hassle for as long as his > mother is alive, plus 2 years. Kings Co. Conveyances, Liber 4, pg 260. > > I don't know when Helen died, but it could be that after 2 years Hendrick > decided to leave. > > I think there are 2 deeds that state or imply that Hendrick Hendrickson, > husband of Helen Cortelyou, was living in New Jersey at the end of his life. > > Hendrick Hendrickson, Jacques Denyse and Abraham Emans of Freehold > (unreadable) all of this county of Monmouth, province of New Jersey... sell > to Stephen Amack 96 ½ acres purchased by Hendrick Hendrickson and Jacques > Denyse of New Utrecht on 1 May 1719; by deed dated 5 May 1730. The mark of > Hendrick Hendrickson is difficult to read, but begins H with something > following, but is possibly a double HH. > Monmouth County Deeds, Vol H, pg 114. > > This appears to state that Hendrick and Jacques were of New Utrecth in 1719, > but that they were all of Freehold, not Middletown, in 1730. I don't think > Jacques Denyse ever lived in Freehold (his will was written in July 1739 and > states he was of New Utrecht at that time), so the residence may only apply > to Abraham whom I believe was living in Freehold. It is not clear, but I > think the residence of Hendrick Hendrickson and Jacques Denyse is not stated > at the beginning of the deed because it was the same as their residence on > the original deed, i.e. New Utrecht. In either case, it was not Middletown. > > The second deed, the one of 31 May 1731 to Teunis Denyse, a year later, does > say that Hendrick Hendrickson was of Middletown (Monmouth County Deeds, Vol > H, pg 57.) The land in the deed was probably in Freehold, see > The New York Genealogical and Biographical Record, Volume 49, "Teunis Denyse > of Freehold", by Helen Linklean Fairchild, pg 354. > > Nothing earlier indicates that Hendrick Hendrickson, h/o Helena, had any > land or family in Middletown. He had numerous land transactions in Freehold > and until a short time earlier was not living in Middletown, so I take this > indication of his residence in Middletown with some reserve. > > So, while the two Hendrick Hendricksons may have lived in Middletown at the > same time for a short time, but they clearly are two men living mostly in > two different places. > > Mike Morrissey > > > > > > > > > > From: dleavitt@cableone.net > > To: dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com > > Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2013 10:59:45 -0600 > > Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] Hendrick Hendrickson and Van Dyke Families > > > > Mike. > > > > You wrote: > > > > "It is almost certain that Hendrick Hendrickson of Middletown, NJ and > > father of Hendrick and Geesje, is not the same person as Hendrick > > Hendrickson, husband of Helena Cortelyou." > > > > Wow we have gone full circle on this once again and we are where we > > started at the beginning of this conversation several months ago. > > > > You may be right, however, you forgot about the Monmouth Co., Deed dated > > 31 May 1731 where Hendrick Hendrickson of Middletown sells the land on > > Cooper's Brook he bought of "Abraham Emans & Margreta his wife by deed > > bearing the date the eighteenth Day of September Anno Dom: 1718", to Tunis > > Denys bearing the mark of H H. > > > > I don't seem to have the 1718 Monmouth Co., Deed but if it lists Hendrick > > Hendrickson as being from New Utrecht then we must assume that the > > Hendrick who married Helena Cortelyou and the Hendrick who was the parent > > of Geesje, Jannetje and Hendrick were the same, however if it lists > > Hendrick as being from Middletown in 1718 then I think you are right, they > > were not the same individual. Del