Liz, Thank you for the information in the two emails. There is a lot of good information even though we are still not sure about the early ancestors. Perhaps someone will have the necessary connections documented. Sally -----Original Message----- From: E Johnson Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2013 1:58 PM To: Dutch Colonies Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] Parentage of Nicholas Van Dyke (1738-1789) Wow. Now looking at Sally's question again (with the uncertainty she finds), and the Delaware Van Dycks I have lined up, my answer doesn't look too good. In order for Nicholas VD the governor to be born in 1738, his father should be born at least by 1718, or before. That means his father must be born before 1698. This Andreas > Andrew > Nicholas the Gov. thing would only work if Andrew was the oldest son of Andreas (which he could be), AND if both Andreas and Andrew married rather young (just around age 18 or 20). That timing is very tight, both times. So set that aside for now. That is, I don't think that is right. Now I'm looking at Nicholas Van Dyck, brother of Andreas. First he married Tryntje Reyniers on 20 April 1689 in Flatbush [Voorhees, David. Records of the Reformed Protestant Dutch Church of Flatbush, Kings County, New York, Volume 1, 1677-1720 (New York, 1998) p 265] Thet had daughter Tryntje. Then he married Fransyntje Hendricks on 4 June 1692 at Flatbush [Voorhees p. 277] and had about eleven children with her. Will abstract (wife name is totally garbled in abstract, but it should be Fransyntje): Nicholas Vandyke, Yeoman. St Geo Hd. Mar 19, 1728. Nov. 19, 1729. Misc. I.481. Sons, John and Nicholas; wife (Juan saney?); eldest son, Thomas; dau Catherine, wife of Hendrick Vanboorin (?); former wife; youngest son, Daniel; dau Grace VanDike, wife of Owen Carty; dau, Mary Van, wife of William _____ (?); dau, Margaret, wife of Standley Van Dike; dau, Ann van Dike, wife of James Anderson; son, Abraham; son, Hendrick; son Daniel. Exec., sons John and Nicholas. [National Society of the Colonial Dames of America in the State of Delaware. Historical Research Committee, A Calendar of Delaware Wills, New Castle County, 1682-1800, p. 28] The (?) after daughter Catherine wife of Hendrick (van Boerum) probably said 'child of former (meaning first) wife' or somethiing like that. Daughter Maria (Mary) I believe married Willem Willems Bennet (ca 1692-1750) on 14 June 1717 at Flatbush. Daughter Grace was baptized as Geesje at Brooklyn in 1694. Margaret married her first cousin Staats van Dyck (here called Stanley). He was Andreas' son, but left out of Andreas' will. Nicholas' son Nicholas, I have born about 1706, but it could have been a little later. He is probably a better candidate for the father of Nicholas the governor. I'm not sure if a will for this Nicholas exists. Liz J On 17 August 2013 14:33, E Johnson <iris.gates@gmail.com> wrote: > His grandfather should be Andrew, married with an unknown wife. Here's the > problem, because I am not aware of a will of this Andrew's. > > And we have his father's will, from will abstracts of New Castle County: > > Nicholas van Dike. St. Geo Hd. Jan 16, 1755. Apr. 4, 1755. Misc. I.496. > Sons, Nicholas and Abraham, dau, mary Van Dike; dau, Rachel. > Exec, wife, son, Nicholas. > Appraisers, David Stewart and John Van Dike. > > And then there is the will of his cousin Jacob: > > Jacob Van Dike. Farmer St. Geo Hd. July, 1765. Mar. 14, 1772. K.8. > Sister, Mary, wife of Henry Foster, four cousins, Nicholas, Abraham, Mary > and Rachek Van Dike, all children of my uncle, Nicholas Van Dike, dec., > and > Rachel, his wife; uncle, Thomas Van Dike, his four children, Thomas, > James, > Elizabeth and Daniel. > Exc. Henry Foster, Nicholas Van Dike. > > I don't know who the above Jacob's father was, though. > > Andrew's father was Andreas. I have that he was first marrried with Geesje > de Groot at Sleepy Hollow on 30 Oct. 1698, but I don't have the book > number. Baptisms of at least some of their children took place there. But > he ends up married second with a Jemima, no idea who she was, and he died > 1730 in St. George's Hundred, New Castle County, Delaware. He had one last > child, David, with the second wife Jemima --the "unborn child" in the > will. > David was born in Delaware, and was about 14 years younger than his sister > Elizabeth. > > Andreas Vandike, Yeoman. May 20, 1730. June 15, 1730. Misc. I 484. > Wife, Jemima, sons, Abram, Andreas and Jacob; unborn child; son John; two > daus Mary and Elizabeth. Exec., son John Vandike. > > Then I have these land records pertaining to Andreas: > > New Castle County Delaware Land Records 1673-1710 by Carol Bryant, p. 138 > Deed. On 01-OCT-1706. Andrew Peterson of Appoquinimink, yeoman, to Thomas > Hyatt of the County of West Chester in the province of New York, yeoman, > and Andrew VanDike of the same county, yeoman. ...A tract of land on the > north side of Appoquinimink Creek bounded by the first point of land in a > small creek called Drawyers Creek & the swamp containing 400 acres. Now > Andrew Peterson for 90 pounds granted to Isaac Gooding, Thomas Hyatt & > Andrew VanDike the said tract of land. Isaac Gooding is to hold two full > fifths parts of said tract, Thomas Hyatt to have two full fifths parts of > said tract & Andrew VanDike to have one full fifth part. > > He is the witness in this deed: > New Castle County Delaware Land Records 1715-1728 by Carol Bryant, p.67 > Deed. On 19 Nov 1723 Whereas there is a tract of land lying at St George's > Creek fronting on a branch commonly called Canoe Branch, bounded by land > of > Albert Vansands, Christopher Vander Grists & Andrew Anderson containing > 150 > acres, which said tract lately belonged to John Peirce of St George's > Creek, yeoman, who died intestate leaving behind issue, 3 children: John, > Alice & Sarah Peirce, who became joint heirs of the said John Peirce, dec. > Now Thomas Peirson & Alice his wife, the eldest daughter of John Peirce, > dec. & Peter Houlston & Sarah his wife, the youngest daughter of John > Peirce, for L20 granted to John Peirce, the son of John Peirce, dec all > right, title & interest in the said land. Delivered in the presence of > Joseph Stewart, Andrys Vandyke. Recorded Oct. 1724. (G1:356) > > New Castle County Delaware Land Records 1738-1743 by Carol Garrett, pp. > 18-19 > Deed. 12 Aug 1738. John VanDike of St. George's Hundred in Co. of New > Castle, Executor of the Last Will & Testament of Andrew VanDike of sd > place, dec'd., for the sum of 40 pounds, sold unto Abraham Gooding of sd > place, yeoman (as high bidder), a seventh part of a plantation & tract of > land, late the share of David VanDyke. This is property that sd Andrew in > his lifetime was seized of. It was situate on the north side of Drawyers > Creek, bounding the lands of Thomas Hyatt, Gart Dushene, sd Abraham > Gooding, and contained 160 acres. In sd Andrew's Last Will, dated 20 May > 1730, he bequeathed his land to be equally divided amongst all his sons & > daughters, excepting his son Stanley. Division made insufficient for > bringing up the youngest child of sd Andrew, afsd son David. Orphans Court > on 16 May 1738 before John Richardson, Charles Springer, Jehu Curtis, John > Finney, Thomas James and Thomas Noxon ordered selling 1/7 of said > plantation belonging to sd. David. The nearest relations of sd David, > namely Thomas Hyatt and Isaac Cannon, certified the desired sale; > condition > was when sd David reaches 21, the amount of forty pounds (amt. paid to > each > of his brothers and sisters for like share) be accountable to him. In the > meantime, sd David to be put out as an apprentice when he becomes 14 > years. > He shall be taught to read English and write and arithmetic to Rule of > three without bringing further charge against sd Court. Signed: Jo > VanDike. > Wit: Jno Robinson, Thos Noxon. Recorded 14 Nov 1738. (M1:102) > > There is additional support in New Castle County Delaware Land Records > 1715-1728, p. 89 concerning heirs of Andreas, which apparently I didn't > type up or digitize, but we'll try to get the scanner to cooperate this > afternoon; then I can OCR it. > > After I check everything again and add what's srill missing here, I could > probably post a Descendents report on my website temporarily, which may be > of interest. > > Hope this helps. Sorry I don't have a better handle on the Sleepy Hollow > church records, but maybe someone here can help fill in. I could use help > on those, too. > > Liz J > > On 17 August 2013 13:41, SShreeve <calandsally@cableone.net> wrote: > >> Concerning another Van Dyke >> >> Can someone tell me the ancestry of the Nicholas Van Dyke (1738-1789) who >> served as the President of Delaware? >> Wikipedia says parents are Nicholas Van Dyke and Rachael Alee and that >> Nicholas’s >> father was Andrew. I have mixed information. >> >> Any information you can give me would be appreciated. >> >> Thank you, >> Sally Shreeve >> > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Delaware suffers from the same lack of pre-Revolutionary records as New Jersey does. Burnt Courthouse Syndrome plus ministers who moved away or died leaving the church books in their attics, and (often) circuit ministers who kept record books in their saddlebags. Your best bet would probably be to order the wills, except Andrew's doesn't seem to exist, or at least not an abstract. Otherwise to look for land records that contain a chain of title. Nicholas Van Dyke the governor, b. 1738 at Berwick (his father's plantation in St. George's Hundred, New Castle County, Delaware), died at Berwick. Tracking the chain of title of this property might nail it down. There's a little about Nicholas Van Dyke and earlier Van Dykes in the Hundred here in a 1906 article: http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=2293&dat=19030503&id=3x0nAAAAIBAJ&sjid=1gIGAAAAIBAJ&pg=893,6494494 This article contains speculation about who the original Van Dykes in this part of the country descended from, but was looking at the wrong person. And adapted from a 1908 Delaware History Text, here: http://www.livingplaces.com/DE/New_Castle_County/St_Georges_Hundred.html. This one says Nicholas the gov. was born at Dutch Neck, not Berwick, but they say 1740, not 1738. Neither define the governor's lineage, but I was trying to discover exactly where "Berwick" was located. If you look up Annondale, Delaware on a map, that's in Dutch Neck. It's below Scott's Run where it meets the Delaware and Chesapeake Canal. Delaware Place Names has: "Dutch Neck: neck of land, between the Chesapeake and Delaware Canal and the Delaware River, just SW of Delaware City; New Castle County; 39°33'45" N, 75°34'30" W." With this information, I went back through the New Castle land records. These I had missed (I don't have them all typed or OCR's). Now I think these two land records are going to nail it for you: Bryant, New Castle County Land Records 1715-1728 p. 16 Deed. On 19 May 1719 Andrew Hamilton, Esq. of the City of Philadelphia on Delaware Bay to Isaac Vandyke of Araritan within the county of Somerset in the province of New Yersey, yeoman. Andrew Hamilton for ₤50 paid and ₤20 secured to be paid by Isaac Vandyke granted to Isaac Vandyke a tract of land called by the name of Bernsuk lying on the west side of Delaware Bay by virtue of a warrant laid out for James Crawford & now in the possession of John Baheckle lying on the south side of St Georges Creek bounded by a swamp called the Doctors swamp, opposite the plantation of Jacob Young containing 210 acres being in Sr. George's Hundred in the County of New Castle late in the tenure of Robert Smith, dec. [The balance of this deed is missing] (E1:342). The transcription of the above must have been difficult. John Baheckle would be John Van Heckle. The plantation name Bernsuk will appear correctly in the next deed: p. 35 Deed. On 12 Nov. 1723 Isaac Vandyke of George's Hundred, yeoman, to Nicholas Vandyke of the same, yeoman. Isaac Vandyke for ₤350 granted to Nicholas Vandyke a tract of land called Berwick situated on the west side of the Delaware Bay, the south side of St George's Creek, bounded by St George's Creek, the swamp called the Doctor swamp, a plantation in the possession of Jacob Young containing 210 acres. Signed Isaac Vandyke. Delivered in the presence of Francis Land & John Rees. Recorded 10 Jan 1722/3. (G1:167). Isaac VD must be selling to his brother Nicholas, then in his mid-60's, since his nephew Nicholas (son of Nicholas I), would not be of age until about 1727. That should do it. So the bio in the wiki or wherever, which said the governor's grandfather was Andrew, contained some kind of journalistic error. Granddad was Nicholas, son of Thomas Jans VD. Liz J On 18 August 2013 10:51, SShreeve <calandsally@cableone.net> wrote: > Liz, > Thank you for the information in the two emails. There is a lot of good > information > even though we are still not sure about the early ancestors. Perhaps > someone will > have the necessary connections documented. > Sally >