Van Gent does not ring any bells? Gent is the city in which Charles Vth was born, and where Gravensteen became legendary. Since then, druppel kot etc became part of our heritage On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 3:01 AM, <dutch-colonies-request@rootsweb.com>wrote: > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Jan Ariansen van Gent (Renee L. Dauven) > 2. Re: Jan Ariansen van Gent (Renee L. Dauven) > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: "Renee L. Dauven" <promine@web-ster.com> > To: dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com > Cc: > Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2013 18:32:49 -0700 > Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] Jan Ariansen van Gent > Thank you to Peter, Liz and David, > > With this information from the three of you, I'm going to continue > treating them as different names. So the "Jan Aertszen" who had > inter-actions with Albert Albertsen Terhune's son and step-son is probably > NOT the same man as the "Jan Ariansen" whom Albert Sr. hired as a > substitute. > Thank you for your help. > > Renee L. Dauven > > On 8/11/2013 7:16 AM, bomendal wrote: > >> RE: Jan Ariansen van Gent. David M. Riker, "Genealogical and Biographical >> Directory to Persons in New Netherland," lists Jan Arienszen and Jan >> Aertszen (family names: Harrison, Arrison, Aertsen, Aerson), but neither >> one >> would appear to be an exact match with Jan Ariaensen van Gent. I see no >> other possible candidates, however. >> >> David Smock >> ============= >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Renee L. Dauven"<promine@web-ster.com> >> To:<DUTCH-COLONIES@rootsweb.**com <DUTCH-COLONIES@rootsweb.com>>; >> "New-Netherland" >> <NEW-NETHERLAND@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2013 1:53 PM >> Subject: [DUTCH-COLONIES] Jan Ariansen van Gent >> >> >> Does anyone on the list have a clue who the Jan Ariansen van Gent of the >>> following document might be? Albert Albertsen is almost certainly to be >>> identified as Albert Albertsen Terhune. But who is the other fellow? >>> Can >>> Ariaensen be understood to be Aertsen or should they be viewed as two >>> seperate names? >>> Thank you for any help you maybe able to give. >>> >>> Renee L. Dauven >>> >> > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: "Renee L. Dauven" <promine@web-ster.com> > To: dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com > Cc: > Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2013 19:09:23 -0700 > Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] Jan Ariansen van Gent > Mike, > > Oh...it is so tantalizing! > It would make his return at close to the time of the English > takeover. But if he left because of the English takeover, would he have > been likely to return to the now English Colony? > I found a "Jan Ariaensen" without the "van Gent" on the 1675 tax > roll for Boswyck. At the same time there is a "Jean Aersen" on the > Brooklyn list. > Jan Ariaensen, with or without the "van Gent", is proving to be > rather elusive. > Thank you for the most interesting information. Someday maybe it > will all tie together. > > Renee L. Dauven > > > On 8/11/2013 7:19 AM, Michael Morrissey wrote: > >> Renee, >> >> One possibility is that he was the son Aryen Van Gent and Maeyken Jans. >> >> Jacob Teunissen de Key married Hillegond Theunis Quick. In his marriage >> intentions at the DRC of New Amsterdam he was said to be of Tuyl. >> 1658 29 Mar; Jacob Toeniszen van Tuyl in Gelderlt; Hilletje Teunis, van >> N. Amsterdam >> [Robert Billard's transcription, online at http://homepages.rootsweb.** >> ancestry.com/~rbillard/vital_**statistics.htm<http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~rbillard/vital_statistics.htm> >> >> Aryen Van Gent and Maeyken Jans were married at the DRC of Tuyl >> 2 Feburari 1640 (Trouwdag); Aryen van Gent, j.m. van Avesaet, Maeyken >> Jans, wedr van Aert Roelofse; >> >> They had at least 2 children baptized there: >> 1 December 1640; Dirck; Arye van Gent, Maeyke Jans >> 11 Mar 1644; Johannes; Aryen van Gent >> >> Dirck married Cornelia Florissen there and had at least 3 children >> baptized there: >> 14 Mei 1663 (trouwdag); Dirck van Gent, J.M. "van Tuyl", Cornelia >> Florissen "van Hermen" >> Februari 1664; Johanna Catharyn; Dirck van Gent >> 17 Mei 1668; Ariaentje; Dirck van Gent >> 20 Juni 1671; Adriaen; Dirck van Gent >> >> Johannes Van Gent may be the Jan Van Gent in the baptismal record from >> Tuyl below >> 25 Juli 1665; Ariaentje; Jan van Gent >> >> If he is the same Jan Ariansen Van Gent, then his time of service was >> short and he returned to Tuyl. >> >> Tuyl records are from FHL scans of index cards of the original records, >> online at: >> https://familysearch.org/**search/image/index#uri=https%** >> 3A%2F%2Ffamilysearch.org%**2Frecords%2Fwaypoint%2FM99D-** >> H3F%3An1751338716%3Fcc%**3D2038506<https://familysearch.org/search/image/index#uri=https%3A%2F%2Ffamilysearch.org%2Frecords%2Fwaypoint%2FM99D-H3F%3An1751338716%3Fcc%3D2038506> >> >> The records at the church begin in 1639. Witnesses, if recorded, do not >> appear on the cards. >> >> Hope this helps. >> >> Mike Morrissey >> >> >> Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2013 11:53:38 -0700 >>> From: promine@web-ster.com >>> To: DUTCH-COLONIES@rootsweb.com; NEW-NETHERLAND@rootsweb.com >>> Subject: [DUTCH-COLONIES] Jan Ariansen van Gent >>> >>> Does anyone on the list have a clue who the Jan Ariansen van Gent >>> >>> To-day, the 30th of June 1663, appeared before me, Walewyn van der >>> Veen, Notary Public, etc., Albert Albertsen, living in the Village of >>> New Utrecht on Long Island, who declared that he had agreed with Jan >>> Ariansen van Gent, bachellor, who also appearing admitted to have >>> accepted as follows: he, the said Ariaensen, agrees to serve personally >>> as substitute for said Albert Albertsen as a soldier of the West India >>> Company in the present war against (p. 54) the Esopus Indians, according >>> to the proclamation by the Director General and Council of this Province >>> of June 25th last, for which said Albertsen shall pay him, besides the >>> usual pay and the booty to be found at the next harvest, or in his >>> absence to his cousin Jacob Teunissen Kay, Burgher of this City, >>> >>> >> >> ------------------------------**- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> DUTCH-COLONIES-request@**rootsweb.com<DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com>with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body >> of the message >> >> > > To contact the DUTCH-COLONIES list administrator, send an email to > DUTCH-COLONIES-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the DUTCH-COLONIES mailing list, send an email to > DUTCH-COLONIES@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > >