I think it probably means born and living in Colonial Rensselaerwyck Manor. Are you sure that these are the parents of your Tryntje? I have the parents of the Tryntje who married Pieter Waldron as Cornelius Gysbertse Van Den Bergh and Cornelia Van Der Poel, but I could be wrong. His will dated 3 Mar 1714 and proved 6 July 1717. Mentions his wife, their children, real property in the cities of Albany and New York City, and a home farm on the east side of the Hudson River, 1 mile back into the woods. The children listed in order from the will were Gysbert, Gerrit, Cornelia, Tryntje, Maritje, Cornelia, Mathias, Gertje, Wynant, and Goosen. I only have one child listed for Cornelis and Maria (although there are probably more) so I can't help with that Tryntje but I do have some history going back on either line. Probably someone else on the list can help with parents. I have Maria as the daughter of Maas Cornelius Van Buren. Maria was the sister of Pieter Martense Van Buren who was the great-grandfather of Pesident Martin Van Buren. Sally -----Original Message----- From: dgoldens3@aol.com Sent: Friday, April 12, 2013 8:34 PM To: dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] VANDEN BERG/VAN BUREN Thank you so much. Question: What does b. and l. mean So Maria is most likely the daughter of Martin Cornelise Van Buren?? Thanks, Dawn -----Original Message----- From: dutch-colonies-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:dutch-colonies-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of SShreeve Sent: Friday, April 12, 2013 8:37 PM To: dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] VANDEN BERG/VAN BUREN >From the records of the Albany Reformed Dutch Church: 1702, Nov. 21. Reg. Cornelis Gerritse Van den Berg, y.m., and Maria Van Bueren, wid. of Jan Teewisse Van Deuse, both b. and l. in Col. R. Ma., r Dec. 20, at h. of Mayor, Albert Rykman. Cornelis Van den Berg's father was Gerrit Gybertse Van den Berg. My notes on him: In 1663 he lived in Beverwyck, Albany, NY, as a servant to Jan Barent WEMP and was a commissioner of Kinderhook, Albany, NY, in 1686. In 1662 removed to farm of Martin Cornelise Van Buren on west side of river south of Albany, NY, and in records up to 1685; his occupation was a farmer. Source is page 11 of "The Van Den Berghs in America" compiled by D. Wade Stockman, and potter@capital.net, Ruth Potter. I have brief notes on Pieter: PAR: William Waldron and Engeltie Stoutenbrught (of NY) (VAN HIS 001) CHR: Witnesses Pieter Stoutenburg and Aeltie Walkdron (VAN HIS 067) Sally Idaho -----Original Message----- From: dgoldens3@aol.com Sent: Friday, April 12, 2013 5:19 PM To: dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com Subject: [DUTCH-COLONIES] VANDEN BERG/VAN BUREN HI, I am trying to find more information on my 9th great grandparents. Their names were: Cornelius Vanden Bergh Marial Van Buren I am direct granddaughter thru their daughter: Tryntje Cornelis Vanden Bergh She was married to Pieter Waldron - grandson of Resolved Waldron. I don't know much about them. I suspect that they were alive around early 1700s? Any suggestions would be great. Dawn Wisconsin ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2904 / Virus Database: 2641/6223 - Release Date: 04/03/13 Internal Virus Database is out of date. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message