This information was contained in a letter sent to me by Arthur Weaner in 1983 after I had asked him about the ministers copy. Unfortunately Mr. Osborn never showed or shared either the Dutch or English cemetery plan, the latter plan he is supposed to have taken to the cemetery between two pieces of glass to facilitate his work. As a guess in the late 1970's his house was robbed and my understanding is that in same he lost the treasured cemetery plot plans. FROM MEMORY, he inferred the loss. I suppose some what grieved that if he had shared with me his loss of the original they could be replaced from my Copy. Mr. Osborn died 7 Nov. 1783, age 67, buried in Biglerville Cem, although he wishes to be buried in the Low Dutch Swift Run Cemetery. I believe the current owner is Carol Joy Baker and she purchased it from the Osborne family. I will have to dig out the advertisement. SO both Mr. Osbourne and Arthur did have some kind of map which they apparently drew, but not the ministers copy which would have been in Dutch. Mr. Osbourne probably made his own map and copy after the robbery. Since many dates on the map Glee has are after 1800, this is not the original, but there were TWO drawings made of the cemetery PLUS the original plat plan. Judy On 04/23/13, marguerite puca<jerseymap@gmail.com> wrote: Could you take pictures of the 7 pages (plus map) and post the pics? On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 12:26 PM, Willora Glee <[1]gleek@ptd.net> wrote: > I have given money in the past to maintain the Conewago cemeteries. I > was given in the past the list of who is buried in the North and > South cemeteries of Conewago. I also have a plot map for them. I > could share them but there are seven pages and I cannot post them to > the list. I have had these maps and burial lists for a long time for > over 15 years. If memory serves me right I shared them with Carolyn > Leonard and her Dutch Cousins list. I could post the burial lists but > not to plot maps. Maria Stryker Banta is supposed to buried in one of > the two cemeteries but there is not listing for her nor is there a > stone for her. She was buried to Henry Banta 4th. He is supposed to > be buried there too. I descend out of them. How do you want me to handle > this? > Glee Van Osdol Krapf > > > At 11:12 AM 4/22/2013, you wrote: > > > Both the Dorland Cemetery on Sunset Road in Montgomery Twp. Somerset > > County, NJ and the Conewago Cemetery on Swift Run Road are comprised > of > > grave makers which are basically field stone rocks which, if lucky, > are > > marked with initials and a date. The date of the Dorland > > Cemetery is around > > 1735 with burials ending by 1800, while the Conewago Cemetery > probably was > > established ca. 1772 however burials continued into the 1900's > > with only two > > burials, one a gypsy boy buried ca. 1910-1912 and David Weaner burial > in > > 1964. More times than not, there is just a stone marker and those > can be > > just the tip of the stone, the stone may have sunk into the ground, > fallen > > on its side so only a odd shaped stone sticks up, that kind of thing. > Most > > of these are rough read colored stones at Conewago and field stones > which > > seem to be cut in a long narrow shape with an indent half way > > down the stone > > at the Dorland cemetery. > > Conewago RDCh. families later erected the more familiar gravestones > on a > > few family plots, but today there are many unmarked graves, the > > field stones > > long gone. There was a man, Gerry Byers, a german man who was > employed by > > the church in the 1700's who was the custodian of the cemetery, > whether or > > not he was responsible for the cutting of the field stones was never > > mentioned but these were not just superficial stones, they were > > long enough > > and mostly narrow, as were the Dorland stones to be sunk deeply into > the > > ground. > > The Dorland field stones were crushed by heavy farm equipment > > which had been > > parked there and/or pushed down under the ground by the weight of the > > equipment. While the Conewago Cemetery was enclosed by a stone wall, > the > > Dorland cemetery was never that fortunate. There is a limited list of > > burials for Conewago but in order to determine whether or > > not your ancestor > > was actually buried there, the baptismal, deacons records and > > wills need to > > be consulted. They are not going to actually state that so and so was > > buried there, however. Since the church was located next door to the > > cemetery, later closer to Route 30, and there was also a southern > cemetery > > for the use of the Low Dutch living in that area. If someone in this > > community died between 1772 and say 1804 when the church was closed > what > > remained of the congregation scattered to other churches. Some of > these > > families were buried in the church cemetery. Burials did, as > mentioned > > take place after 1804, as not all families migrated to Kentucky or > Ohio, > > however, they were few. Burials in the early years seemed to be not > in > > family plots but when the person died, so you have the members of the > > congregation mixed together. Initials and dates, if lucky, were > > chiseled or > > scratched into the stone but they were professionally done. That may > have > > been Mr. Byers job to do. He and his family also migrated down to > Kentucky > > in 1783 -1790. > > At one time apparently there was a list of burials and a map showing > their > > location at Conewago which the caretaker in 1963 had in his > possession. > > Arther Weaner could never get him to show this map to him. He could > point > > out the location of who was buried where, but that document has > > never been > > made public, we know from the John Dorland Cremer book that 30 > > to 40 burials > > were in the Dorland cemetery with head and footstones. > > The major concern is that throughout many counties and states because > they > > ancient Dutch burial grounds did not look like what people in the last > > century felt cemeteries should look like, well then they were just a > field > > of rocks. This is probably been the largest cause of their > > demise, farmers > > plowed them under, developers built houses on them, that kind of > thing. > > Does any one else have a early Dutch family cemetery or know of a > Dutch > > Church cemetery in which the early burials were marked with field > stones? > > Judy Cassidy > > > >------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >DU[2]TCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > >without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DU[3]TCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DU[4]TCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message References 1. mailto:gleek@ptd.net 2. mailto:TCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com 3. mailto:TCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com 4. mailto:TCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com