Hi Jim, Thank you very much for the marriage record and will abstract, and for the like to the will. Greatly appreciated, Liz J On 10 April 2013 05:08, James Harder <jaharder88@yahoo.com> wrote: > Hi Liz, > > Apparently both daughters lived long lives as per in Cornelia's 1786 will, > proved in 1787, which mentions her 4 children with Jeremias Blauw > (1707/8-1759), and her sister Sara Waldron. NYHS Abstract below. A copied > record of the will and probate begins on page 31 here: > http://tinyurl.com/d4523sx > > NY Marriage License: 1737 29 Dec; Jeremiah Blauw; Cornelia Waldron > > Jim > > > > ABSTRACTS OF WILLS— LIBER 40 > 124 > > Page 39. — Cornelia Blaau, of New York City, wid- > ow of Jeremiah Blaau, late of the said City, to my ex- > ecutors, all my real estate in New York City or else- > where, upon trust that they sell the same within three > months after my decease, and the moneys so arising, > after my debts and funeral charges are paid, to put > £200 out at interest, upon sufficient landed security > and to pay the interest so arising to my sister, Sarah > Waldron, during her life ; one equal third part of the > residue to my son, Abraham, for his use and benefit, > and his heirs share and share alike; one other equal > third part to my daughter, Cornelia Alboy, wife of > John Alboy, late of the said City, deceased, to her > heirs share and share alike; the remaining third part > to be put out at interest, upon sufficient landed secur- > ity, the interest so arising to be paid to my daughter, > Sarah Jarvis, wife of Arthur Jarvis, of New York > City for her use and benefit during the joint lives of > my daughter Sarah, and her husband; if the interest > is not sufficient, then I order my executors to give > part of the principal of the one-third part not exceed- > ing in the whole £300, to be paid to my daughter, > Sarah Jarvis ; her receipt alone shall be a sufficient dis- > charge to my executors ; if my daughter, Sarah Jarvis, > should die before the said one the third part is put > 125 > out at interest, then it is to be paid to her child or > children which shall be living at the time of her decease, > share and share alike ; in default of such child or chil- > dren, the same to be paid to my daughter, Cornelia > Alboy, and my son, Abraham Blaau, for their use, > share and share alike, to them, their heirs, as tenants > in common; after the death of my sister, Sarah > Waldron, two equal third parts of the above mentioned > sum of £200 to my son, Abraham Blaau, and Cornelia > Alboy, to them, their heirs, share and share alike as > tenants in common; the remaining equal third part > of the said £200 to my executors to put out at interest > for my daughter, Sarah Jarvis, for her use during her > life, to her, her heirs, share and share alike as tenants > in common; all my household furniture and plate to > my children, Abraham, Cornelia Alboy, and Sarah > Jarvis, and my sister, Sarah Waldron, for their use > and benefit ; if either die before my decease, the share > to be divided among the survivors, share and share > alike; as my son, Waldron Blaau, has in his lifetime > received more than his full share I cannot, in justice > to my other children, give his children anything by > my last will. I appoint His Excellency, George Clin- > ton, Esq., Governor of New York State, and Nicholas > Bogart, merchant, of New York City (son of Cornelius > Bogart), executors. > > Dated August, 24, 1786. Witnesses, Gerret Van > Gelden, Robt. Troup, Esq., Theophilus De Bow. > Proved, July 24, 1787. On July 28, 1787, the executors > having refused to serve, the Court appointed Robert > Richardson Cross and Arthur Jarvis, of New York, > gentlemen, to administer the estate. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: E Johnson <iris.gates@gmail.com> > To: dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com; new-netherland@rootsweb.com > Cc: > Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2013 7:31 PM > Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] Cornelia Maas, wife of Johannes Holsaert & > Rutgert Waldron; Jannetje so-called "Boonen" (who isn't) > > I hope you find something useful, Dawn. > > I hope someone knows if Cornelis Maas' two daughters with Rutgert Waldron > (Sara Waldron 1716, and Cornelia Waldron 1619) lived to adulthood, and if > so, who they married. Their father died when they were only little girls. > > I also need a death date for Cornelis (Maas) Waldron, or info on whatever > happened to her after Rutgert Waldron died. > > Thanks for the thanks, > Liz J > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

The Waldron connections are most interesting but what about the children of Cornelia's first marriage? Who were they and what became of them? In Rutgert's will, (see below) Ann Holsaert is usually thought by Holsaert researchers to have been a married daughter of Rutgert. But the will seems a bit confusing. It specifies seven children which would include, counting the names given, Ann. However, she is named last which seems to indicate that she was the youngest. Yet of the three daughters she is the only one who appears to be married...which may indicate that she is the oldest of Rutgert's children. Furthermore, if the youngest, she would have been underage at the time the will was written as the will talks about bringing up "my younger children". Rutgert married first per the following NY DRC record: 1700 04 May; Rutgert Waldron, jm van N. Yorck; Debora Pel, jd ut Supra. beyde woonende alhier. With that marriage date, a list of the baptisms of Rutgert's children seems to preclude Ann from being his daughter. 1700 Dec 04; Rutgert Waldron, Debora Pel; Debora; Willem Pel, Sara Rutgers wife of Daniel Waldron 1702 Mar 04; Rutgert Waldron, Debora Pell; Daniel; Daniel Waldron, Anna Waldron 1703 Aug 15; Rutgert Waldron, Debora Pell; Daniel; Joseph Waldron, Anna Waldron 1705 Aug 30; Rutgert Waldron, Debora Pel; Samuel; Daniel Walderon, Sara Walderon 1707 Dec 28; Ruthgert Waldron, Debora Pell; Richard; Albartus Coenradus Bosch, Elisabeth Montanje 1709 Nov 09; Ruthgerd Waldrom, Debora Pell; Sara; Isaac Boele, Grietje Brestede 1711 Aug 12; Ruthgerd Waldrom, Debora Pel; William; Pieter Brestede, Anna Paretre [Peartree] 1713 Sep 20; Ruthgert Waldrom, Debora Pel; Johannes; Fredrik Willemse, Marytje Waldrom By Aug 1716, Rutgert had married Cornelia Mass. 1716 Aug 05; Rutgerd Waldrom, Cornelia Maas; Sara; Pieter Brestede, Grietje Brestede 1718 Aug 29; Rutgerd Waldrom, Cornelia Maas; Cornelia; Gerret de Freest, Cornelia de Freest There just doesn't seem to be a place for Ann in this list. The most likely answer is that she is actually the youngest daughter of Cornelia and her first husband. She remained with her mother following the mother's remarriage and was raised by Rutgert. The older children may have gone to live with other relatives. Another possible solution is to declare the will wrong and the daughter called Ann in the will is actually a mistake for Debora, the oldest documented daughter of Rutgert...or that the baptismal record is incorrect and the child called Debora in the 1700 baptism was actually named Ann. If that is the case than by 1700 it is entirely possible that Rutgert's oldest daughter may have married a Holsaert. Who was he and was he a son of Cornelia and Johannes? As of now, the only documented child that I have for Cornelia and Johannes is known to have died in 1704 as on 31 Dec 1704 Johannes paid 12 gulden for a grave and pall for a son (name not given) said to be documented per New Utrecht church records. Were there any other children? Thanks for any insight. Renee L. Dauven Will of Rutgert Waldron: Abstracts of Wills Vol II 1708-1728, page 226: Page 209.--RUTGERT WALDRON. In the name of God, Amen. I, Rutgert Waldron, of New York, turner. I leave to my wife Cornelia (pounds Sterling)100. I leave to each of my seven children, to wit, Daniel, Samuel, Richard, Johanes, Sarah and Cornelia Waldron, and Ann Holsaert, 20 shillings. I leave to my son Samuel two iron vises, to be delivered to him at the expiration of his apprenticeship. I leave to my son Daniel all the rest of my working tools when of age, provided he continues to live with my wife Cornelia and assist her in bringing up my younger children. Otherwise he is to pay her (pounds Sterling)30. I also give to my wife my Large Dutch Bible. I leave all the rest of my goods to my wife to enable her to bring up the children, and she is to take care that they are brought up and instructed in the Holy Evangelical Religion. I make my loving friends, Mr. Harmanus Rutgers, Mr. Philip Van Cortlandt and Mr. John Nicolls trustees of my estate, and I make my wife executor. Dated June 14, 1720. Witnesses, John Nicolls, Richard Nicolls, Duncan Hutchinson. Proved before Governor William Burnet, November 3, 1720.

Renee, Here's a record from NY Dutch church: 1726 Apr 20; John Cooper, Antje Holsaardt; Johannes; John Stanton, Cornelia Waldrom The witness Cornelia "Waldrom" would be Annetje's mother. Child Johannes could be named for his grandfather Johannes Holseart II (Cornelis Maas' first husband), on his own father. This is the only Cooper (spelled this way) in the NYDRC until 29 October 1730, when Mary Cooper was a baptism witness for a child of John Le Montes and Aaltje Van Norden. These two records seem to be the only Coopers (spelled that way) in the NA/NYDRC. I did not check NA/NYDRC for alternate spellings of the Cooper name. John Cooper's wife, 'Antje Holsaardt' could be as young as 17 in this record, assuming she was married at 16, which would put her birth at around 1709, and assuming I'm not having a Bad Math Day. There isn't much room for a daughter Annetje to be born to Rutgert Waldron in between his known children with Deborah Pel, AND married by 1720, who could have been married by 1720 when Rutgert Waldrom made his will. Now I'll go out on a limb... I have Annetje Holseart remarried with William Bennet, a son of Jacob Adriaens Bennet and Barbara Verdon. But I have almost zero documentation for this! Could use help. Apparently in her second marriage, some of Annetje Holseart's children were baptized at New Utrecht, for instance: -- Jacob Bennet, bapt. 31 January 1732 (would have named the paternal grandfather Jacob Adriaens Bennet) -- Neeltje Bennet, bapt. 4 May 1735 (would have been named after the maternal grandmother, Cornelia Maas). There were several more born later, up til about 1748. Annetje could therefore have been born as early as about 1700, but my guess is a little later. I don't have enough documentation on this second marriage and family to really be commenting on it much, but maybe someone can help with baptism witnesses from New Utrecht. If so, I could use help on this group, too. If anyone can saw off this limb, please do, but let me climb down from this tree first. I am jhappier to have something corrected than I am with having an error in my own database or my work. Thanks. This William Bennet's will should appear in WNYHS:5:336, whatever that is. I don't have this abstract. This note came from a series of articles written in the 1960's by Ledley for the NYGBR. He made a heroic effort to straighten out the many Dutch Bennets, but there are some differences that I and others have recently noted. Buyt my bottom line is, that Rutgert Waldron's so-called dughter, mentioned _last_ in his 1720 will, was most likely his stepdaughter. He raised her with her mother. That's why she was mentioned last after the series of other children. Annetje Holseart inherited the same amount as the Waldron children, which accords with the usual Dutch custom when a special settlement on "voorkinderen" (fore-children = earlier children of a second spounse) have not been settled upon previous to the second marriage of the testator. Liz J On 12 April 2013 16:54, Renee L. Dauven <promine@web-ster.com> wrote: > The Waldron connections are most interesting but what about the > children of Cornelia's first marriage? Who were they and what became of > them? > In Rutgert's will, (see below) Ann Holsaert is usually thought by > Holsaert researchers to have been a married daughter of Rutgert. But > the will seems a bit confusing. It specifies seven children which would > include, counting the names given, Ann. However, she is named last > which seems to indicate that she was the youngest. Yet of the three > daughters she is the only one who appears to be married...which may > indicate that she is the oldest of Rutgert's children. Furthermore, if > the youngest, she would have been underage at the time the will was > written as the will talks about bringing up "my younger children". > > Rutgert married first per the following NY DRC record: > 1700 04 May; Rutgert Waldron, jm van N. Yorck; Debora Pel, jd ut Supra. > beyde woonende alhier. > > With that marriage date, a list of the baptisms of Rutgert's > children > seems to preclude Ann from being his daughter. > > 1700 Dec 04; Rutgert Waldron, Debora Pel; Debora; Willem Pel, Sara > Rutgers wife of Daniel Waldron > 1702 Mar 04; Rutgert Waldron, Debora Pell; Daniel; Daniel Waldron, Anna > Waldron > 1703 Aug 15; Rutgert Waldron, Debora Pell; Daniel; Joseph Waldron, Anna > Waldron > 1705 Aug 30; Rutgert Waldron, Debora Pel; Samuel; Daniel Walderon, Sara > Walderon > 1707 Dec 28; Ruthgert Waldron, Debora Pell; Richard; Albartus Coenradus > Bosch, Elisabeth Montanje > 1709 Nov 09; Ruthgerd Waldrom, Debora Pell; Sara; Isaac Boele, Grietje > Brestede > 1711 Aug 12; Ruthgerd Waldrom, Debora Pel; William; Pieter Brestede, > Anna Paretre [Peartree] > 1713 Sep 20; Ruthgert Waldrom, Debora Pel; Johannes; Fredrik Willemse, > Marytje Waldrom > > By Aug 1716, Rutgert had married Cornelia Mass. > > 1716 Aug 05; Rutgerd Waldrom, Cornelia Maas; Sara; Pieter Brestede, > Grietje Brestede > 1718 Aug 29; Rutgerd Waldrom, Cornelia Maas; Cornelia; Gerret de Freest, > Cornelia de Freest > > There just doesn't seem to be a place for Ann in this list. The > most > likely answer is that she is actually the youngest daughter of Cornelia > and her first husband. She remained with her mother following the > mother's remarriage and was raised by Rutgert. The older children may > have gone to live with other relatives. > > Another possible solution is to declare the will wrong and the > daughter > called Ann in the will is actually a mistake for Debora, the oldest > documented daughter of Rutgert...or that the baptismal record is > incorrect and the child called Debora in the 1700 baptism was actually > named Ann. > If that is the case than by 1700 it is entirely possible that > Rutgert's > oldest daughter may have married a Holsaert. Who was he and was he a > son of Cornelia and Johannes? > As of now, the only documented child that I have for Cornelia and > Johannes is known to have died in 1704 as on 31 Dec 1704 Johannes paid > 12 gulden for a grave and pall for a son (name not given) said to be > documented per New Utrecht church records. Were there any other children? > > Thanks for any insight. > > Renee L. Dauven > > Will of Rutgert Waldron: > > Abstracts of Wills Vol II 1708-1728, page 226: > Page 209.--RUTGERT WALDRON. In the name of God, Amen. I, Rutgert > Waldron, of New York, turner. I leave to my wife Cornelia (pounds > Sterling)100. I leave to each of my seven children, to wit, Daniel, > Samuel, Richard, Johanes, Sarah and Cornelia Waldron, and Ann Holsaert, > 20 shillings. I leave to my son Samuel two iron vises, to be delivered > to him at the expiration of his apprenticeship. I leave to my son Daniel > all the rest of my working tools when of age, provided > he continues to live with my wife Cornelia and assist her in bringing up > my younger children. Otherwise he is to pay her (pounds Sterling)30. I > also give to my wife my Large Dutch Bible. I leave all the rest of my > goods to my wife to enable her to bring up the children, and she is to > take care that they are brought up and instructed in the Holy > Evangelical Religion. I make my loving friends, Mr. Harmanus Rutgers, > Mr. Philip Van Cortlandt and Mr. John Nicolls trustees of my estate, and > I make my wife executor. > > Dated June 14, 1720. Witnesses, John Nicolls, Richard Nicolls, Duncan > Hutchinson. Proved before Governor William Burnet, November 3, 1720. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >