It seems that many of the earlier New Amsterdam ministers did not record the mother's name. I find that unusual --in Amsterdam (for example) the mother's name was always included in the records of the Dutch church, and believe also in the French church there. The Luthers in Amsteram didn't seem to be comcerned with who the mother was until sometime later In New Amsterdam later (mid-1650's, maybe, if your Stoutenbergs are an indication), the mother's names were included. Sometimes the mothers were recorded under their maiden names (correct), but in other records their surnames were recorded as some form of their husband's names -- the so-called "husband-nym", a term coined by someone years ago here on D-Col. Liz J On 25 March 2013 18:40, Dawn <dgoldens3@aol.com> wrote: > Thank you! Is it normal that no mother is listed? > > Dawn > > Sent from my iPad > > On Mar 25, 2013, at 4:52 PM, ekipp@rogers.com wrote: > > > I have this item which may be of interest. > > Collections of the New York Genealogical and Biographical Society, Vol > II. > > Baptisms from 1639 to 1730 in the Reformed Dutch Church, New York. > > New York, 1901. Reprinted 1968. > > P. 33 1653 5 Jan Pieter Stoutenburg parent, Engeltje child, no > witnesses. Minister Joannes Megapolensis. > > > > Engeltie Stoutenburg would be my 8th Great-Grandaunt. > > > > Regards > > Edward Kipp > > > >> From the banks of the Ottawa River, river of the voyageurs! > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Dawner <dgoldens3@aol.com> > > To: dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com > > Sent: Monday, March 25, 2013 12:02:04 PM > > Subject: [DUTCH-COLONIES] STOUTENBURG Family > > > > > > Good Morning, > > > > I have been trying to find more information on my 9th great grandmother. > Her name was Engeltje VAN STOUTENBURG. > > > > She married William Waldron. I have found a reference of a possible > birthdate for Engeltje for 1653 in New Amsterdam. > > > > I am not that familiar with Dutch records. Any suggestions would be > great. > > > > Thanks, > > Dawn Christenson > > Wisconsin > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

That is very interesting.... I like when mother's maiden name is mentioned Sent from my iPad On Mar 25, 2013, at 5:59 PM, E Johnson <iris.gates@gmail.com> wrote: > It seems that many of the earlier New Amsterdam ministers did not record > the mother's name. I find that unusual --in Amsterdam (for example) the > mother's name was always included in the records of the Dutch church, and > believe also in the French church there. The Luthers in Amsteram didn't > seem to be comcerned with who the mother was until sometime later > > In New Amsterdam later (mid-1650's, maybe, if your Stoutenbergs are an > indication), the mother's names were included. Sometimes the mothers were > recorded under their maiden names (correct), but in other records their > surnames were recorded as some form of their husband's names -- the > so-called "husband-nym", a term coined by someone years ago here on D-Col. > > Liz J > > On 25 March 2013 18:40, Dawn <dgoldens3@aol.com> wrote: > >> Thank you! Is it normal that no mother is listed? >> >> Dawn >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> On Mar 25, 2013, at 4:52 PM, ekipp@rogers.com wrote: >> >>> I have this item which may be of interest. >>> Collections of the New York Genealogical and Biographical Society, Vol >> II. >>> Baptisms from 1639 to 1730 in the Reformed Dutch Church, New York. >>> New York, 1901. Reprinted 1968. >>> P. 33 1653 5 Jan Pieter Stoutenburg parent, Engeltje child, no >> witnesses. Minister Joannes Megapolensis. >>> >>> Engeltie Stoutenburg would be my 8th Great-Grandaunt. >>> >>> Regards >>> Edward Kipp >>> >>>> From the banks of the Ottawa River, river of the voyageurs! >>> >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> From: Dawner <dgoldens3@aol.com> >>> To: dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com >>> Sent: Monday, March 25, 2013 12:02:04 PM >>> Subject: [DUTCH-COLONIES] STOUTENBURG Family >>> >>> >>> Good Morning, >>> >>> I have been trying to find more information on my 9th great grandmother. >> Her name was Engeltje VAN STOUTENBURG. >>> >>> She married William Waldron. I have found a reference of a possible >> birthdate for Engeltje for 1653 in New Amsterdam. >>> >>> I am not that familiar with Dutch records. Any suggestions would be >> great. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Dawn Christenson >>> Wisconsin >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message