>>> Pam Sears wrote: "The above should read: <snip> 'married Ferdinand >>> Schureman, son of JACOBUS> Schureman and Antje Terhune' <snip>" Thanks, Pam. I was quoting those passages, ad litteram, from The Van Voorhees Family in America. In my print copy of the genealogy, it is Thomas, not Jacobus. Has there been an update? Great to have the correction. If you'll cite the source, please, I'll write it in my book in permanent marker! Nancy On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 12:01 PM, Pamela J. Sears wrote: > Dear all, > > Nancy Terhune wrote: > > "Neeltje VanVoorhees (Roelof, Lucas, Stephen); baptized 4 April 1731 > at >> > Ref. Ch., New Brunswick, Middlesex Co., NJ; married Ferdinand > Schureman, >> > son of Thomas Schureman and Antje Terhune, circa 1753; died 29 Jul > 1809 >> > at age 78; >> > > Nancy, > > The above should read: <snip> "married Ferdinand Schureman, son of > JACOBUS > Schureman and Antje Terhune" <snip> > > Mike, > > You shared the URL (which was truncated) for the bible records at > GSNJ, but > the records are not on line. You must contact them directly for > copies. > However, Abraham Van Voorhees is not the father of this Neeltje (wife > of > Ferdinand Schureman). > > Also, the website URL is as follows: > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~njgsnj/collectionguide.html > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~njgsnj/FR4600_4799.htm > > > David, > > Ferdinand Schureman's wife was Neeltje Van Voorhees, the daughter of > Roelof > Van Voorhees and his wife Neeltje Schenck. The given name of Neeltje > in a > Dutch colonial family was probably one of the more interchangeable > and/or > had more variations than all the others. In this case, the father > Roelof > Van Voorhees, called his daughter Neeltje "Helena" at birth and > continued > to do so probably throughout life and certainly in his will (see NJA > 3:342-3). Variations of this given name (Helena) include Lena, > Leentje, > Elena, Neeltje, Eleanor, Nelly (and perhaps others). A lot depended > upon > what she was called by her siblings, and this may have been totally > different from what her husband called her. This is no different from > what > happens today. Furthermore, there may have been a variety of reasons > why > there was no son named Roelof, but the "why" would only be speculation > on > our part. > > > Best regards, > Pam Sears > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Nancy, For updates on the Voorhees Family genealogy, you should contact Robert Voorhees, chairman of the family association's genealogical committee, at rfvoorhees@gmail.com. I am sure he will be glad to receive your information, with original source indicated, if he doesn't already have the information. I expect that corrections would be noted in the association's newsletter. My late wife was always more than willing to admit that in dealing with over 80,000 names she was bound to get a few wrong. Peter -----Original Message----- From: dutch-colonies-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:dutch-colonies-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Nancy Terhune Sent: Friday, March 01, 2013 12:27 PM To: dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] Neeltje Voorhees >>> Pam Sears wrote: "The above should read: <snip> 'married Ferdinand >>> Schureman, son of JACOBUS> Schureman and Antje Terhune' <snip>" Thanks, Pam. I was quoting those passages, ad litteram, from The Van Voorhees Family in America. In my print copy of the genealogy, it is Thomas, not Jacobus. Has there been an update? Great to have the correction. If you'll cite the source, please, I'll write it in my book in permanent marker! Nancy On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 12:01 PM, Pamela J. Sears wrote: > Dear all, > > Nancy Terhune wrote: > > "Neeltje VanVoorhees (Roelof, Lucas, Stephen); baptized 4 April 1731 > at >> > Ref. Ch., New Brunswick, Middlesex Co., NJ; married Ferdinand > Schureman, >> > son of Thomas Schureman and Antje Terhune, circa 1753; died 29 Jul > 1809 >> > at age 78; >> > > Nancy, > > The above should read: <snip> "married Ferdinand Schureman, son of > JACOBUS Schureman and Antje Terhune" <snip> > > Mike, > > You shared the URL (which was truncated) for the bible records at > GSNJ, but the records are not on line. You must contact them directly > for copies. > However, Abraham Van Voorhees is not the father of this Neeltje (wife > of Ferdinand Schureman). > > Also, the website URL is as follows: > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~njgsnj/collectionguide.html > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~njgsnj/FR4600_4799.htm > > > David, > > Ferdinand Schureman's wife was Neeltje Van Voorhees, the daughter of > Roelof Van Voorhees and his wife Neeltje Schenck. The given name of > Neeltje in a Dutch colonial family was probably one of the more > interchangeable and/or had more variations than all the others. In > this case, the father Roelof Van Voorhees, called his daughter Neeltje > "Helena" at birth and continued to do so probably throughout life and > certainly in his will (see NJA 3:342-3). Variations of this given name > (Helena) include Lena, Leentje, Elena, Neeltje, Eleanor, Nelly (and > perhaps others). A lot depended upon what she was called by her > siblings, and this may have been totally different from what her > husband called her. This is no different from what happens today. > Furthermore, there may have been a variety of reasons why there was no > son named Roelof, but the "why" would only be speculation on our part. > > > Best regards, > Pam Sears > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Nancy, I do not know which version (year of publication) of the Van Voorhees Family in America by Florence Christoph that you might be using, but whatever it is......it cannot be correct. There was no Thomas Schureman of that generation; nor was there a Thomas Schureman in the next 2 or 3 generations. According to: Richard Wynkoop's Schuremans of New Jersey New York: Knickerbocker Press, 1902, p 23 (Ferdinand Shureman begins on p 30, but does not identify his wife). Jacobus Schureman came to New Jersey in the company of Rev. Theodorus Jacobus Freylinghuysen as his voorleser, and indeed the two gentleman soon married Terhune sisters. (verification thanks to list member Barb "old bat" Terhune). It was this Jacobus Schureman who was the father of Ferdinand Schureman. Best regards, Pam Sears On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 12:26 PM, Nancy Terhune <nancyterhune@optonline.net>wrote: > >>> Pam Sears wrote: "The above should read: <snip> 'married Ferdinand > >>> Schureman, son of JACOBUS> Schureman and Antje Terhune' <snip>" > > Thanks, Pam. > > I was quoting those passages, ad litteram, from The Van Voorhees Family > in America. > > In my print copy of the genealogy, it is Thomas, not Jacobus. Has there > been an update? > > Great to have the correction. If you'll cite the source, please, I'll > write it in my book in permanent marker! > > Nancy > > > On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 12:01 PM, Pamela J. Sears wrote: > > > Dear all, > > > > Nancy Terhune wrote: > > > > "Neeltje VanVoorhees (Roelof, Lucas, Stephen); baptized 4 April 1731 > > at > >> > > Ref. Ch., New Brunswick, Middlesex Co., NJ; married Ferdinand > > Schureman, > >> > > son of Thomas Schureman and Antje Terhune, circa 1753; died 29 Jul > > 1809 > >> > > at age 78; > >> > > > > Nancy, > > > > The above should read: <snip> "married Ferdinand Schureman, son of > > JACOBUS > > Schureman and Antje Terhune" <snip> > > > > Mike, > > > > You shared the URL (which was truncated) for the bible records at > > GSNJ, but > > the records are not on line. You must contact them directly for > > copies. > > However, Abraham Van Voorhees is not the father of this Neeltje (wife > > of > > Ferdinand Schureman). > > > > Also, the website URL is as follows: > > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~njgsnj/collectionguide.html > > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~njgsnj/FR4600_4799.htm > > > > > > David, > > > > Ferdinand Schureman's wife was Neeltje Van Voorhees, the daughter of > > Roelof > > Van Voorhees and his wife Neeltje Schenck. The given name of Neeltje > > in a > > Dutch colonial family was probably one of the more interchangeable > > and/or > > had more variations than all the others. In this case, the father > > Roelof > > Van Voorhees, called his daughter Neeltje "Helena" at birth and > > continued > > to do so probably throughout life and certainly in his will (see NJA > > 3:342-3). Variations of this given name (Helena) include Lena, > > Leentje, > > Elena, Neeltje, Eleanor, Nelly (and perhaps others). A lot depended > > upon > > what she was called by her siblings, and this may have been totally > > different from what her husband called her. This is no different from > > what > > happens today. Furthermore, there may have been a variety of reasons > > why > > there was no son named Roelof, but the "why" would only be speculation > > on > > our part. > > > > > > Best regards, > > Pam Sears > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >