WDS, Some of us have learned that your indexes are a helpful shortcut to finding recorded documents on FamilySearch.  I'm sure that was not the purpose of your work, but thank you. I was simply pointing out without any criticism intended that your NY County will index indicates: RUTGERS, HARMAN NYC NY-31-8-38 The online Liber 8 has the old recording of the will of Harman Rutgers on Page 32, and I see now there is a much later copy on a Page 38 at the back.  Both copies of the Probate include the language in question: "well and truely administring" which you found in the later document. I'm not a big fan of will abstracts or modern transcriptions, but any rendering that can get us to the original language and intent of our ancestors is greatly appreciated. I know that Wyoming is not the only county that has numerous old documents stacked in boxes in a back room! Jim ________________________________ From: W David Samuelsen <dsam52@sampubco.com> To: dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 12:22 AM Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] Catharin de Hooges, wife of Harmanus Rutgers James Harder, Actually the index is correct. I sent a rebuke message to the team who scanned and SPLICED two volumes and passed them off as one volume, and noticed they did same for all volumes up to volume 44. One set, Wills and administrations (New York County, New York), 1680-1804 The other set (the one I am still indexing) is Record of wills, 1665-1916; index to wills, 1662-1923 (New York County) (the index herein is misleading and do not match any volume's pagings at all.) If you want to see the recopied volumes - go to end of each "volume" The original will books have Administrations (the one you saw) and the recopied ones do NOT have administrations recorded. And they screwed up on Wyoming Co, NY wills, labelled all as wills, not taking into account the difference of ORIGINAL Wills and the RECORD of Wills. The original wills aren't in any volume, they're in BOXES with no page numbers. Yikes! W. David Samuelsen On 3/23/2013 7:15 PM, James Harder wrote: > The original recording of the Will of Harman Rutgers dated 6 Mar 1709 is at Liber 8 Page 32 (incorrectly indexed at Sampubco): > http://tinyurl.com/bv7n4m5 > > > "Lastly I do hereby nominate and appoint my said wife Catharin to be the only and sole Executrix of this my last will and Testament." ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hope you won't pull your hairs off your head when you try Ulster County's backwardish filming of probate files The index card is at the end of each file, rather than the start then go backward because the next sheet is not at the beginning but at the end, right before the index card, 3rd sheet likwise before 2nd, so on. David Samuelsen On 3/24/2013 12:53 AM, James Harder wrote: > I know that Wyoming is not the only county that has numerous old documents stacked in boxes in a back room! > > Jim

Are the majority of Ulster's probate records filmed and online or through Sampubco, even if backwards, or were some abandoned unsorted in those storage boxes? ________________________________ > > From: W David Samuelsen <dsam52@sampubco.com> > > . . .Ulster County's backwardish filming of probate files. . . > ===========================================================