Jason, Here are some of my notes, plus the URL for one of my articles where you can find more. "22nd of August 1679: Bill of Sale: Ruthgert Albertsz to Catharina Cronenborgh. (Liber AA:99,101,103.) Desc.: A house, yard and orchard as it was in use by he seller for 3000g. in 3 installments; 1st at Christmas 1680, 1681 and 1682 at 1000g. each. Surrender 1st of May 1680. Appended: On the 3rd of May 1682 Ruth Albertsz has received 1400g. Further received 24th of July 168[] 500g. On the 17th of January 1685 Rutger Albertse received from Jan Teuninsz 5000g. This came from Flatbush records, but it looks like I don't have a good reference for this. Maybe Renee has it; I don't remember if we have ever discussed this or not. Comments: Catharina Cronenborgh wife of Jan Theunisz assisted by Amstelhoup Jansz, bachelor and Rithset Panter." ["The Flatbush Lots" by Jeff Snedeker in New Netherland Connections, Volume 10:113]. Amstels Hoop (Jansen), as a 3-year-old orphan had been "adopted" by Tryntje Croonenburg. For his story, plus more about Tryntje Croonenburg, see my article here: http://17thcenturyhollanders.pbworks.com/w/page/742576/Nieuw-Amstels%20Hoop%2C%20the%20Orphan Amstels Hoop (Jansen) had maintained a connection with Tryntje Croonenburg and Jan Teunissen, into his adulthood. The "assistance" that he and Richard Painter gave to Tryntje was probably as guarantors (as security or bondsmen) for her purchase of the property from Rutgert Alberts. Here is more about Tryntje Croonenburg in New Amstel: The New Amstel records: Jan Teunissen and Tryntje Croonenberg were in New Amstel in 1659. They were in trouble with the court at New Amstel in late November, 1659, after making arrangements for an unauthorized departure from there. "Tryntien Croonenburg, wife of Jan Theunissen, being summoned and asking for her husband, who had broken out of jail at night, and how was she to have gone away with Karreman, and on what conditions, she hath declared..." They and some others had arranged with Michiel Karreman to leave for Manhattan aboard his sloop. [PA Arch 2, Volume: V "Papers Relating to the Colonies on the Delaware, 1614-1682", pp. 382-384] These persons were not free to leave New Amstel because they had not yet finished their contracts and/or they owed money to the city of Amsterdam for passage or for food and supplies disbursed in New Amstel. Jan Theunissen, a carpenter, had probably made a contract with Jacob Alrichs to work for a term at New Amstel. Alrichs notes in his first report from New Amstel that although carpenters are sorely needed, "not one carpenter has been sent out among us"; also that "diverse other families" (besides the ones who arrived aboard the "Prins Maurits," "de Beer" and "de Gelderse Blom") have applied to move to the colony. [Alrichs letter of 7 May 1657 to the Burgomasters of Amsterdam in PA Arch. 2, Vol. VII, p 295] But in November 1659, Jan Theunissen had been briefly imprisoned at New Amstel for attempting to leave, but escaped, and apparently he and Tryntje did go to Maryland shortly after 20 November 1659, remaining until April 1660, when his return was reported by Beeckman: "On the 16th inst. Sergeant Andries Lourens returned from Maryland, he has met only a few fugitives, who were still free; upon showing your Noble Worship's pass, he brought away only one Jan Tomissen [sic] with his wife and child, whose property came back in Karman's yacht and fell into the hands of Mr. D'Hinojossa, who had it valued and would not surrender it... The said carpenter Jan Tomissen will not go to the Manhattans without his tools and property, but would rather go back to the English, as he has had there the use of the tools of one Jan Barentsen, who was killed by the savages and whose wife died at Colonel Utie's or at my friend Jacop's. Their child was also brought hither by the Sergeant, on which account I wrote at the request of the sister of Jan Barens, the wife of a soldier here, expressly to Jacob Claesen (alias my friend). This child has yet due him there 821 pounds of tobacco and 200 lbs by the said Jan Tomissen; some trifles brought along by the Sergeant were entered upon the list and provisionally delivered together with the child to our soldier's wife. Jacob Claesen took over to Holland besides these, according to the letter of his partner, Frank Wryght, two silver key-chains and two or three silver knife-handles belonging to the child. This child was born at the departure of Mr. Alrichs in the ship Prins Maurits and was at the request of the Lords Burgomasters christened Amsteloop. [sic] Your honor will please issue an order, whether it is to be turned over to the Orphan-Masters at N. Amstel or elsewhere." [PA Arch. 2, Vol. VII "Papers Relating to the Dutch and Swedish Settlements on the Delaware River" pp. 633-4] [Nore EJ: The name, Jan TOMISSEN is most likely a transcriber error. This was Jan THEUNISSEN who appears in New Amstel court records of November 1659. Beeckman's, or the transcriber's interpretation of the name "Amsteloop" is also incorrect]. I have further notes on Tryntje and Jan, but these are too long for a message to the list here. Also, these various persons have been discussed on this list several times before. Check advanced search here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search?aop=1. Input Dutch-Colonies under the list, then start inputting names & checking results. Remember to vary the spelling of these names, since they do tend to vary in the different records. Hope this helps. If you have further questions, I'll try to answer whatever I can. Liz J On 26 May 2013 15:28, James Harder <jaharder88@yahoo.com> wrote: > > Hi Jason, > > Nash cites a 1679 deed at Flatbush from Ruthgert Albertsz to "the worthy Catharina Cronenborgh, wife of Jan Theunisz" as the primary document source of the name Cronenberg. She also mentions that "Tryntien Croonenberg, wife of Jan Theunissen" was interrogated at New Amstel on 22 November 1659 (O'Callaghan DRCHSNY 2:103-4). She provides some context to these records, but notes "there were two contemporary Catharina Cronenbergs in New York and several Jan Teunissens (at least three married to a Catharina)". > > Jim > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Jason Gervase <gervasius@gmail.com> > To: DUTCH-COLONIES@rootsweb.com > Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2013 9:35 AM > Subject: [DUTCH-COLONIES] Catharina CRONENBERG > > > Does anyone have the complete article by Carolyn Nash titled "Magdalena > Hendricks, Wife of Cornelis Vonk/Vonck, and Her Mother, Catharina > Cronenberg, Wife of Jan Teunissen Dam" that was published in the The New > York Genealogical and Biographical Record last year? > > Catharina Cronenberg is my direct maternal ancestor so I'm curious about > the sources for her newly discovered surname. > > Thank you, > > Jason N. 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