I looked closer at page one and find two dates: opten eersten dach van Mei deses jaers xvi sestenviftich or the first day of May the year 1650 and ten Tienden februarij des jaers Sestenviftich or the tenth February 1650 I think the first date is probably the date it was documented in Amsterdam and the second one in May the day it was announced or registered in Brazil. I've only looked at the dates so far so other than seeing references to the Directors of the West India Company and Amsterdam, I'm not sure what the document is about. Chris On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 9:29 PM, <jarm@nycnuts.net> wrote: > > Thanks Chris. I had missed the reference given that pertains to this > document that gave the date as 10 februari 1656. It also states (with > translation), "List of subscribers to the capital of the WIC stating the > deposited amounts. February 10, 1656. 1 piece"... so does this mean that > these were investors, or creditors, vs debtors? > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] [NEW-NETHERLAND] What is this WIC document > From: Chris Brooks <[1]brookskcmo@gmail.com> > Date: Tue, July 09, 2013 7:17 pm > To: New-Netherland <[2]new-netherland@rootsweb.com> > Cc: [3]dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com > You are correct in that this is a document from the Directors of the > Oude > West India Company in Brazil. At the top of page 2 is a date which > appears > to be "xen Febrúarij Jaers xvij Sestenvijftich" or 10th February in the > year 1650. I've looked at several of the documents relating to the West > India Company but not many in Brazil so this looks like an interesting > document. > Chris > On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 9:00 PM, <[4]jarm@nycnuts.net> wrote: > > > > Does anyone know what these two documents are and can you discern a > > possible > > date? > > > > > > > > They look to me like they pertain to Brazil and are a list of people > > who owe > > money to the WIC. I had trouble viewing the image with Internet > > Explorer, > > but had no problems using Foxfire. Here's the link: > > > > > > > > [1] > > > [5] > http://www.gahetna.nl/en/collectie/archief/inventaris/gahetnascans/nodes/ > > > > > > YToxNDp7aTowO3M6NjoiYzAxOjIuIjtpOjE7czo2OiJjMDE6Mi4iO2k6MjtzOjY6ImMwMToyLiI7 > > > > > > aTozO3M6NjoiYzAxOjIuIjtpOjQ7czo2OiJjMDE6Mi4iO2k6NTtzOjY6ImMwMToyLiI7aTo2O3M6 > > > > > > MTI6ImMwMToyLmMwMjowLiI7aTo3O3M6MTI6ImMwMToyLmMwMjowLiI7aTo4O3M6MTg6ImMwMToy > > > > > > LmMwMjowLmMwMzowLiI7aTo5O3M6MTg6ImMwMToyLmMwMjowLmMwMzowLiI7aToxMDtzOjEyOiJj > > > > > > MDE6Mi5jMDI6MS4iO2k6MTE7czoxMjoiYzAxOjIuYzAyOjEuIjtpOjEyO3M6MTI6ImMwMToyLmMw > > Mjo4LiI7aToxMztzOjEyOiJjMDE6Mi5jMDI6OC4iO30%3D/eadid/ > > 1.05.01.01/open/c01%3A2 > > .c02%3A8./inventarisnr/18C/level/file > > > > References > > > > 1. > > > [6] > http://www.gahetna.nl/en/collectie/archief/inventaris/gahetnascans/nodes/ > > YToxNDp7aTowO3M6NjoiYzAxOjIuIjtpOjE7czo2OiJjMDE6Mi4iO2k6MjtzOjY6ImMwMToyLiI7 > > aTozO3M6NjoiYzAxOjIuIjtpOjQ7czo2OiJjMDE6Mi4iO2k6NTtzOjY6ImMwMToyLiI7aTo2O3M6 > > MTI6ImMwMToyLmMwMjowLiI7aTo3O3M6MTI6ImMwMToyLmMwMjowLiI7aTo4O3M6MTg6ImMwMToy > > LmMwMjowLmMwMzowLiI7aTo5O3M6MTg6ImMwMToyLmMwMjowLmMwMzowLiI7aToxMDtzOjEyOiJj > > MDE6Mi5jMDI6MS4iO2k6MTE7czoxMjoiYzAxOjIuYzAyOjEuIjtpOjEyO3M6MTI6ImMwMToyLmMw > Mjo4LiI7aToxMztzOjEyOiJjMDE6Mi5jMDI6OC4iO30%3D/eadid/ > 1.05.01.01/open/c01%3A2 > .c02%3A8./inventarisnr/18C/level/file > > > > ************** > > For New Netherland Resources - ships lists, church records, land > records > > and more visit [7]http://olivetreegenealogy.com/nn/ > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [8]NEW-NETHERLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > Chris Brooks > Kansas City, Missouri > 816-363-1831 > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [9]DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > References > > 1. mailto:brookskcmo@gmail.com > 2. mailto:new-netherland@rootsweb.com > 3. mailto:dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com > 4. mailto:jarm@nycnuts.net > 5. > http://www.gahetna.nl/en/collectie/archief/inventaris/gahetnascans/nodes/ > 6. > http://www.gahetna.nl/en/collectie/archief/inventaris/gahetnascans/nodes/ > 7. http://olivetreegenealogy.com/nn > 8. mailto:NEW-NETHERLAND-request@rootsweb.com > 9. mailto:DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com > > ************** > For New Netherland Resources - ships lists, church records, land records > and more visit http://olivetreegenealogy.com/nn/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NEW-NETHERLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Chris Brooks Kansas City, Missouri 816-363-1831

Let me correct my multiple errors, I can't seem to type correctly. The year is 1656. Chris On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 9:32 PM, Chris Brooks <brookskcmo@gmail.com> wrote: > I looked closer at page one and find two dates: > > > opten eersten dach van Mei deses jaers xvi sestenviftich or the first day > of May the year 1650 > and > ten Tienden februarij des jaers Sestenviftich or the tenth February 1650 > I think the first date is probably the date it was documented in > Amsterdam and the second one in May the day it was announced or registered > in Brazil. I've only looked at the dates so far so other than seeing > references to the Directors of the West India Company and Amsterdam, I'm > not sure what the document is about. > > Chris > > > On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 9:29 PM, <jarm@nycnuts.net> wrote: > >> >> Thanks Chris. I had missed the reference given that pertains to this >> document that gave the date as 10 februari 1656. It also states (with >> translation), "List of subscribers to the capital of the WIC stating >> the >> deposited amounts. February 10, 1656. 1 piece"... so does this mean >> that >> these were investors, or creditors, vs debtors? >> >> -------- Original Message -------- >> Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] [NEW-NETHERLAND] What is this WIC >> document >> From: Chris Brooks <[1]brookskcmo@gmail.com> >> Date: Tue, July 09, 2013 7:17 pm >> To: New-Netherland <[2]new-netherland@rootsweb.com> >> Cc: [3]dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com >> You are correct in that this is a document from the Directors of the >> Oude >> West India Company in Brazil. At the top of page 2 is a date which >> appears >> to be "xen Febrúarij Jaers xvij Sestenvijftich" or 10th February in >> the >> year 1650. I've looked at several of the documents relating to the West >> India Company but not many in Brazil so this looks like an interesting >> document. >> Chris >> On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 9:00 PM, <[4]jarm@nycnuts.net> wrote: >> > >> > Does anyone know what these two documents are and can you discern a >> > possible >> > date? >> > >> > >> > >> > They look to me like they pertain to Brazil and are a list of people >> > who owe >> > money to the WIC. I had trouble viewing the image with Internet >> > Explorer, >> > but had no problems using Foxfire. Here's the link: >> > >> > >> > >> > [1] >> > >> [5] >> http://www.gahetna.nl/en/collectie/archief/inventaris/gahetnascans/nodes/ >> > >> > >> >> YToxNDp7aTowO3M6NjoiYzAxOjIuIjtpOjE7czo2OiJjMDE6Mi4iO2k6MjtzOjY6ImMwMToyLiI7 >> > >> > >> >> aTozO3M6NjoiYzAxOjIuIjtpOjQ7czo2OiJjMDE6Mi4iO2k6NTtzOjY6ImMwMToyLiI7aTo2O3M6 >> > >> > >> >> MTI6ImMwMToyLmMwMjowLiI7aTo3O3M6MTI6ImMwMToyLmMwMjowLiI7aTo4O3M6MTg6ImMwMToy >> > >> > >> >> LmMwMjowLmMwMzowLiI7aTo5O3M6MTg6ImMwMToyLmMwMjowLmMwMzowLiI7aToxMDtzOjEyOiJj >> > >> > >> >> MDE6Mi5jMDI6MS4iO2k6MTE7czoxMjoiYzAxOjIuYzAyOjEuIjtpOjEyO3M6MTI6ImMwMToyLmMw >> > Mjo4LiI7aToxMztzOjEyOiJjMDE6Mi5jMDI6OC4iO30%3D/eadid/ >> > 1.05.01.01/open/c01%3A2 >> > .c02%3A8./inventarisnr/18C/level/file >> > >> > References >> > >> > 1. >> > >> [6] >> http://www.gahetna.nl/en/collectie/archief/inventaris/gahetnascans/nodes/ >> >> YToxNDp7aTowO3M6NjoiYzAxOjIuIjtpOjE7czo2OiJjMDE6Mi4iO2k6MjtzOjY6ImMwMToyLiI7 >> >> aTozO3M6NjoiYzAxOjIuIjtpOjQ7czo2OiJjMDE6Mi4iO2k6NTtzOjY6ImMwMToyLiI7aTo2O3M6 >> >> MTI6ImMwMToyLmMwMjowLiI7aTo3O3M6MTI6ImMwMToyLmMwMjowLiI7aTo4O3M6MTg6ImMwMToy >> >> LmMwMjowLmMwMzowLiI7aTo5O3M6MTg6ImMwMToyLmMwMjowLmMwMzowLiI7aToxMDtzOjEyOiJj >> >> MDE6Mi5jMDI6MS4iO2k6MTE7czoxMjoiYzAxOjIuYzAyOjEuIjtpOjEyO3M6MTI6ImMwMToyLmMw >> Mjo4LiI7aToxMztzOjEyOiJjMDE6Mi5jMDI6OC4iO30%3D/eadid/ >> 1.05.01.01/open/c01%3A2 >> .c02%3A8./inventarisnr/18C/level/file >> > >> > ************** >> > For New Netherland Resources - ships lists, church records, land >> records >> > and more visit [7]http://olivetreegenealogy.com/nn/ >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > [8]NEW-NETHERLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without >> > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >> -- >> Chris Brooks >> Kansas City, Missouri >> 816-363-1831 >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [9]DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> References >> >> 1. mailto:brookskcmo@gmail.com >> 2. mailto:new-netherland@rootsweb.com >> 3. mailto:dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com >> 4. mailto:jarm@nycnuts.net >> 5. >> http://www.gahetna.nl/en/collectie/archief/inventaris/gahetnascans/nodes/ >> 6. >> http://www.gahetna.nl/en/collectie/archief/inventaris/gahetnascans/nodes/ >> 7. http://olivetreegenealogy.com/nn >> 8. mailto:NEW-NETHERLAND-request@rootsweb.com >> 9. mailto:DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com >> >> ************** >> For New Netherland Resources - ships lists, church records, land records >> and more visit http://olivetreegenealogy.com/nn/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NEW-NETHERLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > -- > Chris Brooks > Kansas City, Missouri > 816-363-1831 > -- Chris Brooks Kansas City, Missouri 816-363-1831

Hello Jim and Chris, I have transcribed the document and it's a financial settlement the WIC had for it's investors and shareholders, because their financial situation was rather poor due to the war in Brasil and other events. They probably did sent a clerk to all the residences of those who invested, that would explain all the different kinds of ink and pens. If you're interested I could translate it, but I now started deciphering all the names and signatures. That is interesting to me. Regards Cor Snabel On 9 July 2013 22:35, Chris Brooks <brookskcmo@gmail.com> wrote: > Let me correct my multiple errors, I can't seem to type correctly. The year > is 1656. > > Chris > > > On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 9:32 PM, Chris Brooks <brookskcmo@gmail.com> wrote: > > > I looked closer at page one and find two dates: > > > > > > opten eersten dach van Mei deses jaers xvi sestenviftich or the first day > > of May the year 1650 > > and > > ten Tienden februarij des jaers Sestenviftich or the tenth February 1650 > > I think the first date is probably the date it was documented in > > Amsterdam and the second one in May the day it was announced or > registered > > in Brazil. I've only looked at the dates so far so other than seeing > > references to the Directors of the West India Company and Amsterdam, I'm > > not sure what the document is about. > > > > Chris > > > > > > On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 9:29 PM, <jarm@nycnuts.net> wrote: > > > >> > >> Thanks Chris. I had missed the reference given that pertains to > this > >> document that gave the date as 10 februari 1656. It also states > (with > >> translation), "List of subscribers to the capital of the WIC stating > >> the > >> deposited amounts. February 10, 1656. 1 piece"... so does this mean > >> that > >> these were investors, or creditors, vs debtors? > >> > >> -------- Original Message -------- > >> Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] [NEW-NETHERLAND] What is this WIC > >> document > >> From: Chris Brooks <[1]brookskcmo@gmail.com> > >> Date: Tue, July 09, 2013 7:17 pm > >> To: New-Netherland <[2]new-netherland@rootsweb.com> > >> Cc: [3]dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com > >> You are correct in that this is a document from the Directors of the > >> Oude > >> West India Company in Brazil. At the top of page 2 is a date which > >> appears > >> to be "xen Febrúarij Jaers xvij Sestenvijftich" or 10th February in > >> the > >> year 1650. I've looked at several of the documents relating to the > West > >> India Company but not many in Brazil so this looks like an > interesting > >> document. > >> Chris > >> On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 9:00 PM, <[4]jarm@nycnuts.net> wrote: > >> > > >> > Does anyone know what these two documents are and can you discern a > >> > possible > >> > date? > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > They look to me like they pertain to Brazil and are a list of > people > >> > who owe > >> > money to the WIC. I had trouble viewing the image with Internet > >> > Explorer, > >> > but had no problems using Foxfire. Here's the link: > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > [1] > >> > > >> [5] > >> > http://www.gahetna.nl/en/collectie/archief/inventaris/gahetnascans/nodes/ > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > YToxNDp7aTowO3M6NjoiYzAxOjIuIjtpOjE7czo2OiJjMDE6Mi4iO2k6MjtzOjY6ImMwMToyLiI7 > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > aTozO3M6NjoiYzAxOjIuIjtpOjQ7czo2OiJjMDE6Mi4iO2k6NTtzOjY6ImMwMToyLiI7aTo2O3M6 > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > MTI6ImMwMToyLmMwMjowLiI7aTo3O3M6MTI6ImMwMToyLmMwMjowLiI7aTo4O3M6MTg6ImMwMToy > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > LmMwMjowLmMwMzowLiI7aTo5O3M6MTg6ImMwMToyLmMwMjowLmMwMzowLiI7aToxMDtzOjEyOiJj > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > MDE6Mi5jMDI6MS4iO2k6MTE7czoxMjoiYzAxOjIuYzAyOjEuIjtpOjEyO3M6MTI6ImMwMToyLmMw > >> > Mjo4LiI7aToxMztzOjEyOiJjMDE6Mi5jMDI6OC4iO30%3D/eadid/ > >> > 1.05.01.01/open/c01%3A2 > >> > .c02%3A8./inventarisnr/18C/level/file > >> > > >> > References > >> > > >> > 1. > >> > > >> [6] > >> > http://www.gahetna.nl/en/collectie/archief/inventaris/gahetnascans/nodes/ > >> > >> > YToxNDp7aTowO3M6NjoiYzAxOjIuIjtpOjE7czo2OiJjMDE6Mi4iO2k6MjtzOjY6ImMwMToyLiI7 > >> > >> > aTozO3M6NjoiYzAxOjIuIjtpOjQ7czo2OiJjMDE6Mi4iO2k6NTtzOjY6ImMwMToyLiI7aTo2O3M6 > >> > >> > MTI6ImMwMToyLmMwMjowLiI7aTo3O3M6MTI6ImMwMToyLmMwMjowLiI7aTo4O3M6MTg6ImMwMToy > >> > >> > LmMwMjowLmMwMzowLiI7aTo5O3M6MTg6ImMwMToyLmMwMjowLmMwMzowLiI7aToxMDtzOjEyOiJj > >> > >> > MDE6Mi5jMDI6MS4iO2k6MTE7czoxMjoiYzAxOjIuYzAyOjEuIjtpOjEyO3M6MTI6ImMwMToyLmMw > >> Mjo4LiI7aToxMztzOjEyOiJjMDE6Mi5jMDI6OC4iO30%3D/eadid/ > >> 1.05.01.01/open/c01%3A2 > >> .c02%3A8./inventarisnr/18C/level/file > >> > > >> > ************** > >> > For New Netherland Resources - ships lists, church records, land > >> records > >> > and more visit [7]http://olivetreegenealogy.com/nn/ > >> > ------------------------------- > >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> > [8]NEW-NETHERLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > >> without > >> > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > > >> -- > >> Chris Brooks > >> Kansas City, Missouri > >> 816-363-1831 > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to > >> [9]DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > >> without > >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > >> References > >> > >> 1. mailto:brookskcmo@gmail.com > >> 2. mailto:new-netherland@rootsweb.com > >> 3. mailto:dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com > >> 4. mailto:jarm@nycnuts.net > >> 5. > >> > http://www.gahetna.nl/en/collectie/archief/inventaris/gahetnascans/nodes/ > >> 6. > >> > http://www.gahetna.nl/en/collectie/archief/inventaris/gahetnascans/nodes/ > >> 7. http://olivetreegenealogy.com/nn > >> 8. mailto:NEW-NETHERLAND-request@rootsweb.com > >> 9. mailto:DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com > >> > >> ************** > >> For New Netherland Resources - ships lists, church records, land records > >> and more visit http://olivetreegenealogy.com/nn/ > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> NEW-NETHERLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Chris Brooks > > Kansas City, Missouri > > 816-363-1831 > > > > > > -- > Chris Brooks > Kansas City, Missouri > 816-363-1831 > > ************** > For New Netherland Resources - ships lists, church records, land records > and more visit http://olivetreegenealogy.com/nn/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NEW-NETHERLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >