Are there clues to tell if a surname is of Dutch colonial origin versus from the Palatine/German immigrations? How often were there intermarriages between the two groups in the 1700's? Before my mother infected me with the genealogical sleuth bug, I always thought we were English and Dutch. Lo and behold, tracing those female lines, once you can find the maiden name, leads to many surprises. I am primarily looking in New York state. My known lines are Terpening/ Terwilliger, Beem, Degraff, Shutts,Hooglandt and associated lines, Dingman, Rouw, Swartout, Gardenier, Van Valkenburgh, Yates, Vandenburg, Coppernoll and many other  maternal line feeders. Sue

Hi Sue,   There are resources for identifying surnames and early family origins: For Dutch era surnames:  David M. Riker's Genealogical and biographical directory to persons in New Netherland, from 1613 to 1674 For New York Palatines: Henry Z. Jones’ Palatine Families of New York 1710, and other volumes in his series.   Marriages between the Palatine Germans and the earlier families occurred from the time the Germans arrived and increased among those born in New York in later generations. It's unusual to find families with Dutch era roots that don't have Palatine intermarriages.   From the surnames you mention, I assume you’ve reached either Jacob or Gerrit Terpenning, who married Annatje and Maria Beem.  Jones identifies the daughters of Joh. Albert Beem, a 1710 immigrant with his father Henrich Bohm (Hunter #63).  Some of their records from the Kingston Ref. Church which confirm the placement:   1721 07 Apr; Hendrik Beem, wid Maria Appel, born Germany; Juliana _. (banns)   1721 23 Aug; Albert Beem; Margrietjen Beeshaaren, both born Germany, both liv Kingstown. (with ill. child)   1721 Aug 27; Albert Beem, Margrietjen Beesharen; Marytjen; Jan Oet, Hillegonda Slegtenaar   1728 Feb 11; Albert Been, Grietjen Peeshaar; Anna; Willem Douwdie, Anna Beem   1746 25 May; Jacob Teerpenning, jm, born New Paltz liv Kingston; Marreitje Bem, jd, of Kingston.   1750 20 Sep; Gerret Teerpenning, jm, born New Palz liv Kingston; Annaatje Beem, jd, of Kingston.   1752 Apr 12; Gerret Teerpenning, Annaatje Bem; Margriet; Albert Bem & wife Margriet Beesharen   Jim ________________________________ From: Sue Christensen <suemeadowbrook@yahoo.com> To: "DUTCH-COLONIES@rootsweb.com" <DUTCH-COLONIES@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 9:01 AM Subject: [DUTCH-COLONIES] Surnames Are there clues to tell if a surname is of Dutch colonial origin versus from the Palatine/German immigrations? How often were there intermarriages between the two groups in the 1700's? Before my mother infected me with the genealogical sleuth bug, I always thought we were English and Dutch. Lo and behold, tracing those female lines, once you can find the maiden name, leads to many surprises. I am primarily looking in New York state. My known lines are Terpening/ Terwilliger, Beem, Degraff, Shutts,Hooglandt and associated lines, Dingman, Rouw, Swartout, Gardenier, Van Valkenburgh, Yates, Vandenburg, Coppernoll and many other  maternal line feeders. Sue ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message