Hi Marge Smith, I have these persons in my file at www.angelfire.com/ga4/myhayes_family 7 x GGrandparents: Casper Pieterszen MABIE, Bp. 15 Feb 1660 in New Amsterdam DRC. , m. Lysbeth SCHUERMANS, b. September 1665 on 14 Dec 1687, the first banns were made on 18 Nov 1687, probably in the New Amsterdam DRC 8 x GGrandparents: Pieter Casparszen van NAERDEN, b.c. 1610, m. Aechtje Jans van NORDEN Pieter Casparszen Mebie immigrated from the Netherlands about 1647. He married Aechtje Jans van NORDEN about 1650. I have 6 children for them. Pieter Casparszen died between 1662 and 1665 in New Amsterdam, NY. Aechtje Jans died after Dec 1697 in New York City. You can find addition information on the Mabie family in Pearson's "First Settlers of Albany County", p. 79 or Pearson's "First Settlers of Schenectady County", p. 118 or here : http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~smabie Richard