The plot of land that Adam Brouwer purchased from Hendrick Jansen and the patent he received from the company both appear to be for the same parcel of land. Was this common to receive a patent for land you already owned? What is the distinction between land owned through purchase and land granted by patent? Did a patent grant different rights to the property? Any clarification would be appreciated. Thanks, Steve

Steve, I'll try and sort it out for you, but I am going to need more specific information. Such as the date of the "purchase", date of the "patent", the location of the property and the names of the parties to each of the above enumerated instruments. I feel that title work in New York State is nothing if not complicated and difficult. The parties to any instrument could convey only the interest, which they actually held in the land. Consequently, no one gets good fee simple title to real estate in New York State until 1841. So please delete all of your modern notions of land ownership and we shall dig into the matter. Since the details of this matter could become tedious for the rest of the list, you may want to consider contacting me "off list". Leslie I feel that title work in New York State is nothing if not complicated and difficult. The parties could only convey the interest which they actually held in the land. Consequently, no one gets good fee simple title to real estate in New York State until 1841. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Brewer" <slbrewer@fuse.net> To: "dutch-colonies: rootsweb.com" <dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 1:25 PM Subject: [DUTCH-COLONIES] Purchase vs Patent grant > The plot of land that Adam Brouwer purchased from Hendrick Jansen and the > patent he received from the company both appear to be for the same parcel > of land. Was this common to receive a patent for land you already owned? > What is the distinction between land owned through purchase and land > granted by patent? Did a patent grant different rights to the property? > Any clarification would be appreciated. > > Thanks, > Steve > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Guys-- While the specific details of the transaction might be tedious I suspect it still might be of interest generally as an illustrative example. I, for one, look forward to gleaning whatever I can from the discussion. For those whom it fails to interest there is the ever-handy "delete" key. --pete ----- Original Message ----- From: "Leslie B. Potter" <lbpotter@comcast.net> To: <dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 2:21 PM Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] Purchase vs Patent grant > Steve, > I'll try and sort it out for you, but I am going to need more specific > information. Such as the date of the "purchase", date of the "patent", the > location of the property and the names of the parties to each of the above > enumerated instruments. > > I feel that title work in New York State is nothing if not complicated and > difficult. The parties to any instrument could convey only the interest, > which they actually held in the land. Consequently, no one gets good fee > simple title to real estate in New York State until 1841. So please delete > all of your modern notions of land ownership and we shall dig into the > matter. Since the details of this matter could become tedious for the rest > of the list, you may want to consider contacting me "off list". > > Leslie > > > I feel that title work in New York State is nothing if not complicated and > difficult. The parties could only convey the interest which they actually > held in the land. Consequently, no one gets good fee simple title to real > estate in New York State until 1841. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Steve Brewer" <slbrewer@fuse.net> > To: "dutch-colonies: rootsweb.com" <dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 1:25 PM > Subject: [DUTCH-COLONIES] Purchase vs Patent grant > > > > The plot of land that Adam Brouwer purchased from Hendrick Jansen and the > > patent he received from the company both appear to be for the same parcel > > of land. Was this common to receive a patent for land you already owned? > > What is the distinction between land owned through purchase and land > > granted by patent? Did a patent grant different rights to the property? > > Any clarification would be appreciated. > > > > Thanks, > > Steve > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message