Arnoldus de la Grange and Cornelia de la Fontaine baptized a son Arnoldus in New York (NA) DRC on on 22 January 1679. Witnesses were Jeremias Janszen and Sara de Foreest. Can someone help me with the identities of these two witnesses? On the Jeremias Janszen here I have no clue --can someone identify him?? Which Sara de Foreest was this? I don't seem to have a Sara de foreest the right age. Could this have been Sara du Trieux, wife of Isaac de Foreest? I have no death date for her --was she still around by 1679? She would have been maybe 54 or so. If this is Sara du Trieux, she is "almost" a great-aunt of this little Arnoldus: Back in 1641, Sarah du Trieux married Isaac de Foreest, whose father Jesse de Foreest was a brother of Gerard de Forest, who was married on 12 August 1611 in Leyden, to Hester de la Grange --who is probably a sister of Pieter de la Grange, father of Joost, father of Arnoldus, whose son Arnoldus Jr. is being baptized in NYDRC in 1679. Or am I missing another Sara de Foreest, who was old enough to witness this baptism in 1679? Please would someone help me with the identities of these two witnesses. Thanks very much, Liz J

Hi Liz, From: "E Johnson" <iris.gates@gmail.com> Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 9:22 AM Subject: [DUTCH-COLONIES] De Foreest, de la Grange bapt. > Arnoldus de la Grange and Cornelia de la Fontaine baptized a son > Arnoldus in New York (NA) DRC on on 22 January 1679. Witnesses were > Jeremias Janszen and Sara de Foreest. > > Can someone help me with the identities of these two witnesses? > > On the Jeremias Janszen here I have no clue --can someone identify him?? My guess is that he is the Jermias Janszen who was also known with a surname of (den) Hagenaar. Later the family adopted the name of (van) Westerhout. His father was Jan Janszen. We had quite a discussion of this family here in the fall of 1999. This Jeremias married with int. 16 Aug 1664 Catalyntie, the daughter of Joris Janszen Rapalje and Catalyntje Trico. So, as you know, that gives some connection to the De la Grange family. > Which Sara de Foreest was this? I don't seem to have a Sara de foreest > the right age. Could this have been Sara du Trieux, wife of Isaac de > Foreest? I have no death date for her --was she still around by 1679? > She would have been maybe 54 or so. I agree with your identification of Sara. Riker's Harlem (p. 781) says she didn't die until Nov. 1692. Regards, Howard hswain@ix.netcom.com