I wrote: <Does anyone have a copy of: "Ariaentje Cuvilje (Adrienne Cuvellier), Matriarch of New Amsterdam” by Herbert F Seversmith, National Genealogical Society Quarterly vol.35 (1947), pp.65-69.> Thanks to the kind person who sent me a copy. In the article Herbert F Seversmith wrote: <However, high feeling existed between the Dutch and the Indians; and it has been said of Adrienne Cuvellier that when one of her sons-in-law returned from the massacre of the Pavonia Indians in February 1643, with thirty prisoners and also heads of several of the defunct enemy, she, "forgetful of those finer feelings that do honor to her sex, amused herself in kicking about the heads of the dead men which had been brought in as bloody trophies of the midnight slaughter"> Seversmith put the 'kick-head' part in quotes but I could not find which reference it came from. This sounds more like a family story handed down through the generations. Can anyone document the above story? I hope not. This is my 10th great-grandmother. [Adrienne Cuvilje married Ghislain Vigne] Regards, Ethel ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Hi Ethel, I, also, cannot see a reference that might apply. You might also like to read his chapter on her in his Colonial Families of Long Island ... See here at the end: http://www.newyorkfamilyhistory.org/modules.php?name=Sections&op=viewarticle&artid=67 This work by Seversmith is available on HeritageQuest online. He recounts the same head kicking incident in that chapter and, again, I cannot see what his source is unless it is one of the several secondary family history books he mentions at the end on p. 862. (I did not check the later additions pages the Macy article mentions.) Regards, Howard hswain@ix.netcom.com From: <ETHELKK@aol.com> Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2007 3:31 PM Subject: [DUTCH-COLONIES] Ariaentje Cuvilje,Matriarch of New Amsterdam - Again >I wrote: <Does anyone have a copy of: "Ariaentje Cuvilje (Adrienne > Cuvellier), Matriarch of New Amsterdam” by Herbert F Seversmith, National > Genealogical Society Quarterly vol.35 (1947), pp.65-69.> Thanks to the kind person who > sent me a copy. In the article Herbert F Seversmith wrote: > > <However, high feeling existed between the Dutch and the Indians; and it has > been said of Adrienne Cuvellier that when one of her sons-in-law returned > from the massacre of the Pavonia Indians in February 1643, with thirty prisoners > and also heads of several of the defunct enemy, she, "forgetful of those > finer feelings that do honor to her sex, amused herself in kicking about the > heads of the dead men which had been brought in as bloody trophies of the > midnight slaughter"> > > Seversmith put the 'kick-head' part in quotes but I could not find which > reference it came from. This sounds more like a family story handed down > through the generations. Can anyone document the above story? I hope not. > This is my 10th great-grandmother. [Adrienne Cuvilje married Ghislain Vigne] > > Regards, > Ethel