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    1. [DUTCH-COLONIES] Help with Adam Brouwer reference
    2. Steve Brewer
    3. With all the expertise on this list, I'm hoping someone will be able to point me in the right direction. On August 19, 1656 Adam Brouwer sold his lot in Manhattan to Dirck van Schelluyne. Most people when mentioning this, note the date the transaction took place and the quote that Adam was 'at present living on Long Island" and nothing more. The most detailed reference I've found is in Historic Homes and Institutions and genealogical and Family History of New York by William Pelletreau which has the additional detail of "a house and lot north of begun graft, between the lot of Jan the Cooper on the west, and Egbert Woutersen on the east". From this and other info that I've been able to dig up, this was at the corner of Beaver and Broadway. In Floyd Brewer's book on Adam Brouwer he notes the source for this as 1 N.Y. Col. MSS, 8;821 in Alfred H. Brower's The Brouwer and Brower Genealogy, 1985:13. I don't have access to either this book or NY Colonial Manuscripts but it is my understanding that Volume 8 is Land Papers, volumes GG, HH & II. I do have access to this but didn't find the record of this sale. I'd really like to get the full text of this land transaction. Does anyone have access to N.Y. Col. MSS 8? Am I wrong that volume 8 is the Land Papers book? Does anyone know the full text of this land transaction? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Steve Brewer

    04/16/2007 07:26:56
    1. Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] Help with Adam Brouwer reference
    2. Howard Swain
    3. Hi Steve, From: "Steve Brewer" <slbrewer@fuse.net> Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 10:26 AM Subject: [DUTCH-COLONIES] Help with Adam Brouwer reference > With all the expertise on this list, I'm hoping someone will be able to point me in the right direction. > On August 19, 1656 Adam Brouwer sold his lot in Manhattan to Dirck van Schelluyne. Most people when mentioning this, note the date the transaction took place and the quote that Adam was 'at present living on Long Island" and nothing more. The most detailed reference I've found is in Historic Homes and Institutions and genealogical and Family History of New York by William Pelletreau which has the additional detail of "a house and lot north of begun graft, between the lot of Jan the Cooper on the west, and Egbert Woutersen on the east". From this and other info that I've been able to dig up, this was at the corner of Beaver and Broadway. > In Floyd Brewer's book on Adam Brouwer he notes the source for this as 1 N.Y. Col. MSS, 8;821 in Alfred H. Brower's The Brouwer and Brower Genealogy, 1985:13. I don't have access to either this book or NY Colonial Manuscripts but it is my understanding that Volume 8 is Land Papers, volumes GG, HH & II. I do have access to this but didn't find the record of this sale. > I'd really like to get the full text of this land transaction. Does anyone have access to N.Y. Col. MSS 8? Am I wrong that volume 8 is the Land Papers book? Does anyone know the full text of this land transaction? Any help would be appreciated.< The most complete abstract is probably the one in Stokes' Iconography vol II, p. 368. He cites: "Lib. A, Deeds, N. Y. Co.: 69" This is lot 5 on his Dutch Grants map and appears to be where you said, but in a little from the two streets so that there are other lots between it and the streets. Stokes' version says nothing about Long Island. However, David Valentine's Manual of the Corporation of the City of New York for 1861 has a section titled "Old Conveyances in the Time of New Amsterdam". On p. 589 he has an abstract beginning: "19th August 1656. Adam Brouwer, of Long Island, to Dirck van Schelluyne, Notary Public and concierge of the City. A house and lot north of the begun Graft, ..." I do not know what " 1 N.Y. Col. MSS, 8;821" refers to. I doubt that it is Land Papers GG, HH, & II. (Under O'Callaghan's numbering scheme vol 8 is Council Minutes; and p. 821 (as in his Calendar) has nothing to do with Adam or land.) Land Papers GG on original p.l67 (p. 48 of the printed book) has the original grant to Adam in 1647. Note that Stokes says that: "All subsequent transcriptions prove this desc. erroneous." (It also says nothing about Long Island.) Regards, Howard hswain@ix.netcom.com

    04/16/2007 05:01:03
    1. Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] Help with Adam Brouwer reference
    2. j. gonigam
    3. As I recall, one or more of the Brouwer children at the time of marriage was/were listed as being "from" Gowanus. That doesn't pin down Adam Brouwer's exact location but it seems to set his domicile somewhat more precisely than "Long Island." --pete ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Brewer" <slbrewer@fuse.net> To: "dutch-colonies: rootsweb.com" <dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 12:26 PM Subject: [DUTCH-COLONIES] Help with Adam Brouwer reference > With all the expertise on this list, I'm hoping someone will be able to point me in the right direction. > On August 19, 1656 Adam Brouwer sold his lot in Manhattan to Dirck van Schelluyne. Most people when mentioning this, note the date the transaction took place and the quote that Adam was 'at present living on Long Island" and nothing more. The most detailed reference I've found is in Historic Homes and Institutions and genealogical and Family History of New York by William Pelletreau which has the additional detail of "a house and lot north of begun graft, between the lot of Jan the Cooper on the west, and Egbert Woutersen on the east". From this and other info that I've been able to dig up, this was at the corner of Beaver and Broadway. > In Floyd Brewer's book on Adam Brouwer he notes the source for this as 1 N.Y. Col. MSS, 8;821 in Alfred H. Brower's The Brouwer and Brower Genealogy, 1985:13. I don't have access to either this book or NY Colonial Manuscripts but it is my understanding that Volume 8 is Land Papers, volumes GG, HH & II. I do have access to this but didn't find the record of this sale. > I'd really like to get the full text of this land transaction. Does anyone have access to N.Y. Col. MSS 8? Am I wrong that volume 8 is the Land Papers book? Does anyone know the full text of this land transaction? Any help would be appreciated. > > Thanks, > Steve Brewer > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    04/16/2007 09:19:25