Hi Ethel. From: <ETHELKK@aol.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 8:47 AM Subject: [DUTCH-COLONIES] Jan Tiebout from Bruges? > Trying to find proof for some statements in Riker's Revised History of Harlem > > 1) Jan Tiebout was born at Bruges [pp.68,69,393] > 2) Took Oath of Allegiance to English on 20 Nov 1665. > 3) Was a court messenger at Bergen in 1662. > > 1) Per Riker: "Jan Tibout was born at Bruges, (see p.69) [Riker:393]. I haven't been able to find any more on this. Riker seems to have had people do research for him in Europe who are neither credited nor cited. Maybe it came from that effort. > 2) Per Broadhead. "Names of Dutch who swore Allegiance after the surrender > of New York. . . October the 21st, 22nd, 24th, and 26th days 1664." Jan > Tiebout is not on this list. [Broadhead V.3:74-77]. Where is the 20 Nov 1665 > list? The list you cite is the New York City list. There is a list of those taking the oath at Bergen on Nov. 22, 1665, in NJ Archives vol I, pp 48 - 49. But Jan Tiebout does not seem to be on it. > 3) Per Riker: "Jan Tibout was born at Bruges, (see p.69) and after > emigrating lived for a short time at Fort Casimer, on the Delaware, where he was, in > 1656, and whence coming, he and his wife, Sarah Vander Vlucht, joined the > church at New Amsterdam in January 1660. There and at Flatbush (save while at > Bergen, where he was court messenger, in 1662, and took the oath of Allegiance > to the English, 20 November 1665), he spent most of the ensuing years till he > came to Harlem. [Riker:393] Is there any proof he was a court messenger > at Bergen in 1662? I could not find any. I checked RNA and CDNY. But did not check the NJ Archives series of books. Regards, Howard hswain@ix.netcom.com