My gg-gm, Deborah Rivers Skaats was b. 1826, NYC, NY, the daughter of Bartholomew Skaats and his wife, Mary Ann (b. ca. 1800-05). Mary Ann was known as Grandma Banta to her grandchildren, including my g-grandmother. This confused me until I found her subsequent marriage, Jun 5, 1842, to Albert Zabriskie BANTA (#737), in George Olin ZABRISKIE’s “Zabriskie Family”. Zabriskie shows her as Mary Ann Hopper, wid of Bartholomew Skaats. So, who was Mary Ann HOPPER? Ree HOPPER, in her “Hopper Family,” lists her as an unknown and unattached HOPPER. Was she a descendant of the large Dutch HOPPER family, or the NY, English HOPPERS? Further research, rather than shedding light on the situation, makes it muddier. On Deborah R. (SKAATS) GESLAIN’s Death Certificate, Kings Co # 7717, Apr 20, 1909, located at the NYC Municipal Archives shows her father as Batholomew SKAATS, but her mother as Mary Ann PRICE. Is this a mistake? Or was Zabriskie wrong? Or did Zabriskie just miss her first marriage to an unknown HOPPER, before she married Batholomew SKAATS? Does anyone have information on a Mary Ann PRICE? Or a PRICE Family in NYC (including Brooklyn) or northern NJ, in the early 1800’s? Does anyone have access to the SAYRE Genealogy, by Theodore M. BANTA? Is there any information on Albert Zabriskie BANTA and his wives in it? Theoodore M. BANTA, the genealogist, was the son of Albert Zabriskie BANTA and Sarah Ann SAYRE, and hence a step-son of Mary Ann HOPPE(R) SKAATS BANTA. Bob Protzmann