Reply to: In a message dated 6/7/2007 10:42:24 AM Mountain Daylight Time, dsam@sampubco.com writes............... David, If you will please, where did you get the 1585 *about* date for Frederick's birth and the parents of first wife Styntje Hendricksen? Are you saying that Styntje and Tryntje were sisters? Tryntje Hendricks had 6 known children bp. in the NA RDC with her first spouse, Cors Pietersen Vroom, 1640 to 1653. Styntje Hendrickse was still alive at least for those first few years but she does not appear as a sponsor for any of them. One would think that if indeed they were sisters she would have been? According to New Amsterdam and Its People by J. H. Innes, New York: Charles Scribner's Sons, 1902, "Frederick was born in circa 1603 and came from Amsterdam, NL, with his wife Styntje and a daughter Rebecca." If this is true, Rebecca could not have been born in Newton, Orange County, New York? Frederick Lubbertszen and second wife, Tryntje Hendrickse, did have at least 2 children, both bp. in the NA RDC: * 1658 Jul 07; Fredrick Lubbertszen, Tryntje Hendricks; Elsje; Elsje Tymens. * 1660 Jul 25; Fredrick Lubbertszen, Tryntie Hendricks; Aeltje; Johannes Pieterszen Van Brug, Jannetie Van Donck, Susanna Vreught. Lastly, is there a source for Rebecca Fredericks Van Der Grift dying in Bensalem, Bucks Co., Pennsylvania? I know that some of her children settled there but have never seen that she did also. TIA, Cynthia In a message dated 6/7/2007 10:42:24 AM Mountain Daylight Time, dsam@sampubco.com writes: I'm puzzled... two wives with very similiar given and surnames and 30 years apart of marriages. Dorothy? Fredrick Lubbertszen about 1585, Amsterdam, Nederlands married abt 1605 Amsterdam, Nederlands Styntje Hendricksen dau of Hendrick Tomassen and Elsje Martensen born about 1585 died? daughter Rebecca Frederickse Lubbertsen born 15 Aug 1628, Newton, Orange county, New York married 19 Jul 1648 Nieuw Amsterdam, Nieuw Nederlands (that's New York City) died 1711 Bensalem, Bucks, Pennsylvania wife of Jacob Leendertsen Vandergrift 2nd wife Tryntje Hendricksen born about 1612 married 17 Aug 1657 dau of Hendrick Tomassen and Elsje Martensen apparently no children Please help sort this one out. W. David Samuelsen ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.