I'm puzzled... two wives with very similiar given and surnames and 30 years apart of marriages. Dorothy? Fredrick Lubbertszen about 1585, Amsterdam, Nederlands married abt 1605 Amsterdam, Nederlands Styntje Hendricksen dau of Hendrick Tomassen and Elsje Martensen born about 1585 died? daughter Rebecca Frederickse Lubbertsen born 15 Aug 1628, Newton, Orange county, New York married 19 Jul 1648 Nieuw Amsterdam, Nieuw Nederlands (that's New York City) died 1711 Bensalem, Bucks, Pennsylvania wife of Jacob Leendertsen Vandergrift 2nd wife Tryntje Hendricksen born about 1612 married 17 Aug 1657 dau of Hendrick Tomassen and Elsje Martensen apparently no children Please help sort this one out. W. David Samuelsen

Dear David, I checked the record for Frederick's second marriage in Samuel Purple's translation of New Amsterdam/New York City marriages. You'll note on page 22 that there is no definite date given for the recording of the marriage intention. "Sonder datum" in the margin means "without a date [recorded]". Still, the second marriage intention was recorded sometime between 17 August 1657 and 13 October 1657. The actual marriage probably took place three weeks later after the calling of the banns three times. "Fredrick Lubbertszen, widower of Stijntje Jans, and Trijntje Hendricks, widow of Cors. Pieterszen." The women's names are similar to the degree that each of them was the daughter of a man named "Hendrick". The given names may be spelled "closely" in Dutch, but "Stijntje" is the diminutive of Christina, and "Trijntje" is the diminutive for Catherine. "Tiny" and "Cathy" seem more distinct in English equivalents. I don't see the "puzzlement". Dorothy >I'm puzzled... > >two wives with very similiar given and surnames and 30 years apart of >marriages. > >Dorothy? > >Fredrick Lubbertszen >about 1585, Amsterdam, Nederlands >married abt 1605 Amsterdam, Nederlands >Styntje Hendricksen >dau of Hendrick Tomassen and Elsje Martensen >born about 1585 >died? > >daughter Rebecca Frederickse Lubbertsen >born 15 Aug 1628, Newton, Orange county, New York >married 19 Jul 1648 Nieuw Amsterdam, Nieuw Nederlands (that's New York City) >died 1711 Bensalem, Bucks, Pennsylvania >wife of Jacob Leendertsen Vandergrift > >2nd wife >Tryntje Hendricksen >born about 1612 >married 17 Aug 1657 >dau of Hendrick Tomassen and Elsje Martensen > >apparently no children > >Please help sort this one out. > >W. David Samuelsen > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message