Hi Liz, From: "E Johnson" <iris.gates@gmail.com> Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 8:21 PM Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] Anna HERMAN > The earliest generations of the Colonial HACK family of Eastern Shore > Virginia and Maryland have a series of sons called George Nicholas and > they also have many wives called Ann. > > One of my biggest questions lately is whether or not there was a > George Nicholas HACK, son of the Joris HACK who was baptized in Cologne in > 1620, and his wife Ann VERLET, sister of Jannetje VERLET, > Augustine HERMAN's wife. Their son, George Nicholas, probably born > around 1646, is said to have married "Anna Leisler HERMAN." But > nobody seems to have documentation on this marriage and as you > (Howard) noticed, there's not much if anything around on the Anna > HERMAN who is supposed to be the sister of Augustine. We had a discussion on this list back in Dec 2003 to Jan 2004 on the Verleth / Varlet family. (Other priorities came up for me and I had to bow out around the end of Dec.) Later I got a chance to see the extensive article on the family by Edwin Purple in NYGBR starting in vol 9, p. 54 and continuing for several issues. He shows the same 5 children of Casper Varlet as does David Riker: Nicholas, Jannetje, Maria, Catherina, and Judith. The court records in New Amsterdam show that Paulus Schrick (who m. Maria Verlet) called Guiliam Verlett his brother in law. [RNA 3:29] Guiliam is also said to be deceased then (26 Aug 1659) Also, on 28 June 1655, Judith Verleth refers to her sister, Sarah. [RNA 1:326] Could she be a sister in law, instead? The most likely, it seems to me, would be possibly the wife of Guiliam. For what its worth, on that same page (326) O'Callaghan has footnote listing the siblings of Judith Verleth: Nicholas, Janneke, "Anna, wife of George Hawke of Virginia", Maria, Catharine, and Sarah. I believe we discussed 3 years ago that there was a Anna Verlett, wife of George Hack. See, eg., CDM p. 129. Mr. Purple also mentions them and thinks she was probably a sister of Casper. You should also read NYGBR vol 71, pp 117-119, which has an interesting deposition of Judith Varlet re. their arrival. And is followed by research in Europe by William Hoffman. He found siblings of Casper as: Pieter, Daniel, and Catharina. So, far no one seems to have definitively proven whether the wife of George Hack is Casper's daughter or sister or niece or whatever. Mr. Hoffman also found Casper's marriage at Utrecht on 17 Oct 1615 to Judith Tintenier. If George Hack (who marr. Anna Verlet) was born in 1620 then we might assume Anna was born about then or a little later. Hoffman shows that Casper's parents married in 1590 at Cologne. From these dates it seems more likely that Anna was the dau. of Casper rather than his sister. However, she could also be a niece, it seems to me. I note also that Mr. Hoffman shows that Catharina Varleth (sister of Casper) married Jacques Hack. So, there is another possible connection between the families. > Joris HACK and Anna Verlet also had son Peter who had many > descendents. But for now the focus is on son george Nicholas and his > wife or wives. > > The possibility have been raised that two generations of men called > "George Nicolas > HACK could have been made of one --George N #1 married "Anna Leisler > HERMAN"; George N #2 married Ann Wright. > > Info on these two generations of Joris HACK descendents seems to have > come from a monument on a grave: > > The only place anyone seems to cite as a source for this supposed > marriage to "Anna Leisler HERMAN" is in a book which describes a > memorial obelisk in Fairview Cemetery in Accomack County VA, near the > HACK home. This obelisk was erected by descendents, possibly in place > of or above a > group of family tombstones. Ralph T. Whitelaw in Vol. II of Virginia's > Eastern Shore, pps. 658-659 makes comments and gives the text of > inscriptions on the faces of this monument. He has no sources but is > simply reporting what is engraved in the stone. He says "Some years > ago, all of the tombstones in the family graveyard were buried, a > granite coping set around the plot, and a shaft raised in > the center. Upon the shaft is inscribed: > > WEST FACE > > (Hack Coat of Arms) > > In Memory of > Dr. Joris Hack, baptized > in Cologne, Germany, March > 20, 1620, died in Virginia, 1665; > Married Anna Varlett > daughter of Casper and > Judith Varlett > Their son, Dr. George > Nicholas Hack, born in > Cologne, Germany, died in > Accomac County, Virginia; > Married Anne Leisler > Herman, born in Amsterdam, > Holland, sister of > Augustine Herman of > Bohemian Manor, > Cecil County, Maryland, > Lieutenant Colonel George > Nicholas Hack, died 1705. > and Ann, his wife, daughter of > Richard Wright and Ann. > his wife, daughter of Colonel John. > Mottrom of Northern > Neck, Virginia." > > The other sides of the shaft have inscriptions about descendents of Joris HACK. <snip> > There is an image online of this monument. It's impossible to tell > from the image if the motto and the words, "Joris Hack 1646" are on > the crest, and simply not reported in the second descriptiion of this > monument. > http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/g/o/d/Bryan-S-Godfrey/PHOTO/0267photo.html The text at the bottom says it was erected in 1929. That is about 300 years after the fact. Who knows what they based the info on. The name "Anne Leisler Herman" doesn't make sense to me. I've never seen someone with a surname as a middle name in that time period. And since she is said there to be the sister of Augustine Herman, then Leisler couldn't even be a maiden name. Ie. she couldn't be Anna Leisler who married _____ Herman. Unless -- maybe she married a brother (assuming one existed) of Augustine, and so is Augustine's sister-in-law. Of course, if that were the case in the 17th C. she would be normally be called Anna Leisler or maybe Anna Herman. > In the absence of evidence of "Anne Leisler Herman's" existence, I > wonder if a source of confusion may have been the 1663 and 1666 > petitions for naturalization of Augustine Herman and his wife and > children, with Anna and Joris/George Hack and their children. In those > documents, transcripts of which are in Maryland State Archives, > Augustine HERMAN and Joris (George) HACK are described as > brothers-in-law. In MSA Volume 1, Page 462 "Proceedings and Acts of > the General Assembly January 1637/8-September 1664" is a record of a > petition of > Augustine Herman for an "Act of Naturalizacon for himselfe, Children > and his brother in Lawe George Hack." > "On Thursday Sept 17th, 1663, it was ordered that "an Acte of > Naturalizacon be prepared for Augustine Herman, and his Children and > his brother in Lawe George Hack and his wife and Children."" This seems the best evidence to date that Anna Verlet was a dau. of Casper and a sister to Jannetie who married Augustine. Could there be another way Augustine and George could be brothers in law? Regards, Howard hswain@ix.netcom.com Standard Source Abbreviations: http://www.newyorkfamilyhistory.org/modules.php?name=Sections&op=viewarticle&artid=96