Baptism is a sacrament in the Lutheran church, but I don't think it is in the Reformed. That could be the reason for noting it, although Lutherans believe one Baptism is sufficient no matter who did it. It is perfectly acceptable for someone to do it other than a pastor in case of emergency. Barbara L. de Mare, Esq. Historian, genealogist and attorney 155 Polifly Road Hackensack, New Jersey 07601 (201) 567-9440 office BarbaradeMare@yahoo.com (home) http://historygenealogyesq.blogspot.com/ ----- Original Message ---- From: Elsie H. Wilson <ehwilson@charter.net> To: dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, March 9, 2007 2:13:20 PM Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] Baptism, Reform and Lutheran Part of my research has been into a colony of French Huguenots who were granted by the MarkGraff Friedrich of Karlshure-Palmbach, in Baden German, in 1700, the right to establish a village on his land. This village was named for the MarkGraff, as Friedrichstahl and is an interesting community in Germany even today. The first church records of Friedrichstahl are in French and gradually over the years shifted to a mixture of French and German and now German. However, the traditions of the French in the community have remained strong. Within a few years of its founding, some Germans became part of the community. Today the village is a mixture of French and German ancestry. In my own case, my ancestor, Johannes Heinrich Fussler, came from Boeblingen to Friedrichstahl about 1728 as a carpenter. He married into a French family and down through the years, records for his family along with other's with German Lutheran backgrounds have been noted in the church records, as well as the French family lines. They all lived together, went to the same schools, intermarried, and worshiped as members of the same church, but especially the baptism records noted whether the parents were "Reformed" or "Evangelical". I do not know if the ceremony was any different, but they find it important to note the difference: all my Fussler ancestors were noted as Evangelical and my Gorenflo, La Croix etc. ancestors were noted as Reformed. Traditions that seemed unimportant to us today, were big items in earlier times. Also, there are notations in the records of when a child was baptized "in the home", because of weakness of the child. During the 1800's, groups from this village came to America and settled in Erie, PA, in Marion, Ohio, in Lehigh Co. PA and several other localities. Elsie Wilson Elsie H. Wilson 5620 Harris Cir. Fitchburg, WI 53575 (608) 835-6791 ehwilson@charter.net ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

For many of the Protestant sects baptism is sufficient as long as the formulation of doing so in the "Name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit." But of interesting note (from my New Jersey ancestors) many were baptized twice or more in the Presbyterian faith. My example is the church in Whippany to the church in Morristown. The Morristown minister required second baptisms, possibly because no documentation was given by the first church. Edward Otte -----Original Message----- From: dutch-colonies-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:dutch-colonies-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Barbara de Mare Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 8:23 PM To: dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] Baptism, Reform and Lutheran Baptism is a sacrament in the Lutheran church, but I don't think it is in the Reformed. That could be the reason for noting it, although Lutherans believe one Baptism is sufficient no matter who did it. It is perfectly acceptable for someone to do it other than a pastor in case of emergency. Barbara L. de Mare, Esq. Historian, genealogist and attorney 155 Polifly Road Hackensack, New Jersey 07601 (201) 567-9440 office BarbaradeMare@yahoo.com (home) http://historygenealogyesq.blogspot.com/ ----- Original Message ---- From: Elsie H. Wilson <ehwilson@charter.net> To: dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, March 9, 2007 2:13:20 PM Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] Baptism, Reform and Lutheran Part of my research has been into a colony of French Huguenots who were granted by the MarkGraff Friedrich of Karlshure-Palmbach, in Baden German, in 1700, the right to establish a village on his land. This village was named for the MarkGraff, as Friedrichstahl and is an interesting community in Germany even today. The first church records of Friedrichstahl are in French and gradually over the years shifted to a mixture of French and German and now German. However, the traditions of the French in the community have remained strong. Within a few years of its founding, some Germans became part of the community. Today the village is a mixture of French and German ancestry. In my own case, my ancestor, Johannes Heinrich Fussler, came from Boeblingen to Friedrichstahl about 1728 as a carpenter. He married into a French family and down through the years, records for his family along with other's with German Lutheran backgrounds have been noted in the church records, as well as the French family lines. They all lived together, went to the same schools, intermarried, and worshiped as members of the same church, but especially the baptism records noted whether the parents were "Reformed" or "Evangelical". I do not know if the ceremony was any different, but they find it important to note the difference: all my Fussler ancestors were noted as Evangelical and my Gorenflo, La Croix etc. ancestors were noted as Reformed. Traditions that seemed unimportant to us today, were big items in earlier times. Also, there are notations in the records of when a child was baptized "in the home", because of weakness of the child. During the 1800's, groups from this village came to America and settled in Erie, PA, in Marion, Ohio, in Lehigh Co. PA and several other localities. Elsie Wilson Elsie H. Wilson 5620 Harris Cir. Fitchburg, WI 53575 (608) 835-6791 ehwilson@charter.net ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message