Thank you Regina. Appreciate the explanation about the Hussites. I hadn't found time yet to dig into that. > Grietje Cosyn's (later Haring) first husband Harmen Theuniszen worked for > Augustine Herman. Harmen Theuniszen only appears in the records at his > marriage to Grietje in 1654 and in reference to working for Harmen > Theuniszen. Grietje was widowed and able to marry Jan Pieterse Haring by > 1662, but we don't know anything about Harmen Theuniszen's death and I have > wondered if he had perhaps followed Augustine Hermann south. Well, could be. I will add him to my "wanted" list and see what comes up. Maryland archives, which also include parts of what are now Delaware and Virginia, are online, and searchable, which helps very much in some cases. Some records of Maryland date back to the 1630's. > Harmen Theuniszen only appears in the records at his > marriage to Grietje in 1654 and in reference to working for Harmen > Theuniszen. Er --I think you mean to say that Harmen Theuniszen was working for Augustine Herman, which you wrote in the precious paragraph. May I ask in what capacity he worked for Augustine Herman? Also --if you know who was Harmen Theuniszen's father, please let me know. I'm looking into some business records about tobacco deals in this era and would be interested to see if this man or his family fits into that sort of business. Thank you again, I'll see if I can find anything on Harmen Theuniszen farther south. Best wishes, Liz J

Yes, of course Liz I meant that Harmen Theuniszen was working for Augustine Hermann ---- having a Harmen and a Herman in the mix was just too much for me! I don't think anything more is known about Grietje's husband's father (there, avoided the trap) and I'll check on what capacity he worked for Augustine, but memory says it was as a farmhand. Thanks! Regina Haring ----- Original Message ----- From: "E Johnson" <iris.gates@gmail.com> To: <dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 11:54 AM Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] Augustine HERMAN and the Hussites > Thank you Regina. > > Appreciate the explanation about the Hussites. I hadn't found time yet > to dig into that. > >> Grietje Cosyn's (later Haring) first husband Harmen Theuniszen worked for >> Augustine Herman. Harmen Theuniszen only appears in the records at his >> marriage to Grietje in 1654 and in reference to working for Harmen >> Theuniszen. Grietje was widowed and able to marry Jan Pieterse Haring by >> 1662, but we don't know anything about Harmen Theuniszen's death and I >> have >> wondered if he had perhaps followed Augustine Hermann south. > > Well, could be. I will add him to my "wanted" list and see what comes > up. Maryland archives, which also include parts of what are now > Delaware and Virginia, are online, and searchable, which helps very > much in some cases. Some records of Maryland date back to the 1630's. > >> Harmen Theuniszen only appears in the records at his >> marriage to Grietje in 1654 and in reference to working for Harmen >> Theuniszen. > > Er --I think you mean to say that Harmen Theuniszen was working for > Augustine Herman, which you wrote in the precious paragraph. May I ask > in what capacity he worked for Augustine Herman? Also --if you know > who was Harmen Theuniszen's father, please let me know. I'm looking > into some business records about tobacco deals in this era and would > be interested to see if this man or his family fits into that sort of > business. > > Thank you again, I'll see if I can find anything on Harmen Theuniszen > farther south. > > Best wishes, > Liz J > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.5/707 - Release Date: 3/1/2007 > 2:43 PM > >

Liz and all - Found the reference to Harman Teunissen working for Augustine Hermann in Fernow, Volume III, page 43: "Tuesday, the 9th Sept 1659. In the City Hall. Present the Heeren Olof Stevenszen Cortlandt, Marten Kregier, Pieter Wolfersen van Couwenhoven, Joannes Pieterzen van Brugh, Hendrick Janzen Vander Vin, Jacob Kip. On the petition of Augustyn Heermans, wherein he requests revision of the judgment dated 19. August between him and the brick makers, and that adverse party be ordered to use the wood for brickmaking on petitioner's land or by removal of what is cut and no more, that his farmer HARMEN TEUNISSEN may draw it and they enter security for the brick already agreed on and pay immediately before carting the wood and in addition for the said wood, because it then by removal comes within the nature of a sale and not a leasing, and the petitioner is not disposed at present to sell to them, but in time he intends to erect a brick kiln himself and to pay what arbitrators shall value which he considers fair. Marginal order: - The Court persist by their previous judgment." This was 1659 - Harmen Teunissen had died before the spring of 1662 when his widow, Grietje Cosyns, married Jan Pieterse Haring. Regina Haring