Dag Frans, Thank you for your most welcome clarifications and corrections. Best regards, Pam Sears > Dear Pam, > you wrote: > >> but we may never know for sure. The >> records for Aernhem do not appear to have survived from that time >> period, or at least are not on-line > > --they are not on-line: I think you are right > --they do not appaer to have survived: as far as I know they did: > reformed church: > bapt.: 1593-- (meaning: starting 1593 and no major gaps till appr. 1811) > marr.: 1581-1587, 1609-- > roman catholic: > bapt.: 1605-79 (several churches with gaps; I have no exact listing here) > marr.: ?? > > And it is Arnhem and not Aernhem. > > I did not follow the whole thread on "uijt" and "van" but till these days > there is no real difference, so sometimes I say: ik kom van Oudenbosch and > sometimes I say: ik kom uit Oudenbosch. > Also in the records from the 16th and 17th century both words were used. > > Have a nice weekend > met vriendelijke groet > Frans Gouverneur