I have to admit to being puzzled and intrigued about the unpaid passage question - that those who were recorded were those whose passage would be paid on arrival in New Netherlands. My knowledge is pretty much confined to the people recorded aboard 'De Bever' in 1661. Of the families from Beesd, some were certainly capable of paying their way, judging by their standing in the community and evidence of land sales just before leaving. I've yet to establish who might have guaranteed the passage of these particular families and would love to hear some expert opinion! Terry HJ

There was no one else guaranteeing passage. If your name was on the list, you were the responsible person for your passage. You would pay the company out of your earnings in America. Sort of like buying your ticket with a credit card, and paying for it in installments. ----- Original Message ----- From: "THJ" <tchj@btinternet.com> To: <dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 6:55 PM Subject: [DUTCH-COLONIES] Who paid for passage? >I have to admit to being puzzled and intrigued about the unpaid > passage question - that those who were recorded were those whose > passage would be paid on arrival in New Netherlands. > > My knowledge is pretty much confined to the people recorded aboard > 'De Bever' in 1661. Of the families from Beesd, some were certainly > capable of paying their way, judging by their standing in the > community and evidence of land sales just before leaving. I've yet > to establish who might have guaranteed the passage of these > particular families and would love to hear some expert opinion! > > Terry HJ > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Did Terry mean that someone (not the Company but an individual) had paid the passage of certain persons, who then must be paid back through the person's work or earnings once they arrived here? Such as, an individual here who hired someone from the Netherlands to come work. Also, I just wanted to comment that there may be many persons whose names do not appear on lists here, because they would have paid their passage up front, just as we do today. Those names may exist on lists buried in archives or family memorabilia in the Netherlands, or may be long-gone by now. But clearly the ships lists that exist or have been reconstucted from records don't account for the number of individuals here in the NN colonies. Liz J