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    1. Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] Anneke Jans: source of death dates
    2. Howard Swain
    3. Hi all, In fact, Mr. Conover shows Anneke's will at the link Paul provided. At first I thought that the 19 Mar 1663 date might be the date the will was proved. And then I realized that it was handled in the Dutch manner where it was written directly into the register of the local notary, Dirck van Schelluyne on 29 Jan 1663. As I understand it, under the Dutch system it did not later need to be "proved". So, we should not expect to find a date proved. One of several sources of the will is WNYHS vol 4, pp. 487-489 (this is an Appendix). The date of the payment for use of the burial pall is in the Deacons' Account Book. The Dutch Settlers Society of Albany Year Book vol VII (1931-32) printed the burial pall entries. See p. 9 for the fee paid by "Jan Roelefs" on Feb 23, 1663. From surrounding entries, you can see that New Years Day was Jan 1. A more complete transcription of these accounts is in: Deacons' Accounts 1652-1674; First Dutch Reformed Church of Beverwyck / Albany, New York (Picton Press: 1998). Ian Roelef's rental is on p. 110. Totten in his somewhat outdated article in NYGBR vol 56, p. 207 says that Anneke's heirs sold her home in Beverwyck on 21 Jun 1663. So, that is not the mysterious 19 Mar 1663 date. I don't know for sure, but I'd bet that the 19 Mar 1663 alleged death date came from Evjen. See: http://www.rootsweb.com/~nycoloni/evjen/98evj.html Evjen gives no source and from the now known burial date, this date is clearly impossible as a death date. Unless her name was really M. Valdemar. :) Regards, Howard hswain@ix.netcom.com Standard Source Abbreviations: http://www.newyorkfamilyhistory.org/modules.php?name=Sections&op=viewarticle&artid=96 From: "Lilly Martin" <malik@scs-net.org> Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2007 8:59 AM Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] Anneke Jans > Hello Paul, > > According to: "The New York Genealogical and Biographical Record, Vol 104, > Number 2, pages 69-70, written by George Olin Zabriskie, F. A. S. C., > titled: "Anneke Jans in Fact and Fiction", dated April 1973, this author > states the Will was recorded January 29, 1663 (new Style), and on Feb. 23 > 1663, her son Jan Roelofsen paid for the use of the burial pall. The author > says from that information, we can assume she was buried on that day or > shortly prior. > > Best regards, > Lilly Martin. > Researching the descendants of Adam Brouwer b. 1620, who arrived in > Manhattan in 1642. One of his sons married the grandaughter of Anneke Jans. > Adam's own marriage was performed by Anneke's second husband, and Anneke was > a witness to it. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Paul Underwood" <paul_u@hotmail.com> > To: <DUTCH-COLONIES@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2007 12:36 PM > Subject: [DUTCH-COLONIES] Anneke Jans > > >> David Kipp Conover in his website at >> http://www.conovergenealogy.com/conover-p/p1442.htm#i17886id >> gives the death date of Anneke Jans as 19 March 1663. >> >> William Bogardus in his website at >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~ghosthunter/Anneke/image003.gif >> gives a burial date of 23 Feb 1663. >> >> Both dates seem very precise, but they can't both be right! >> >> Paul Underwood

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