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    1. [DUTCH-COLONIES] How I found I was Dutch...
    2. Barbara Whiteside
    3. was a huge surprise. I was told at age ten by my dad that his mother's family were in Kentucky VERY early, were French Huguenots and the last name was Montfort. It took forever to dig through to find the Montforts that were mine....with them joining the Shakers in 1805-1806 creating a bit of a trial in finding them. I knew the oldest one, in my line that I could find, was probably the son of Francis and Charity Banta Montfort Sr, but could not prove it till I discovered the original Shaker journals at the Filson Historical Society in Louisville, KY. Charity was the youngest daughter of the marriage of Hendrick Banta 3rd and his first wife, Rachel Brower. Charity's son Francis Montfort Jr, would marry the daughter of her half brother, John Banta, son of the second marriage of Hendrick Banta 3rd to Antie Demarest. Confused? I was for awhile. For those who are not familiar with the Shakers, they believed in celibacy and splitting apart families that joined...putting them into Shaker 'Families". For DAR my cousin and I had to prove through the records and journals kept by the Shakers, that three small children were indeed the children of Francis Montfort Jr and his wife/cousin, Polly Banta Montfort. We were able to prove it to their satisfaction and that line was entered into the rolls of Rev War soldiers serving from York County, PA. If you are a descendant of Francis Montfort Sr, you are now eligilble for membership in DAR through his line and I am happy to share with anyone interested. Through the Montfort-Banta line, I have enough Dutch to give me the appearance of a little old Dutch lady of the house...just don't look for the cleaniless is next to Godliness in my own home....someone mentioned a genetic trait for housekeeping...I don't have it either. I did, however, visit Holland, MI and was told I must be Dutch, with my blondish/white hair, fair skin, and very light blue eyes. My lines include, Banta, Montfort, Terhune, Riker, deTruiex, Demarest, Seubering, Stryker, Brinckerhoff, Sohier, dePlanck, Fonda, Samuels, Helling/Hendrickse, Bricker, Brower, etc, For good measure, my Montfort/Banta line married into the family of Boones, Squire and Daniel, through their eldest sister, Sarah Boone Wilcoxson. On the eyes, I learned something interesting at a visit to my eye doctor a couple of years ago. As he was checking inside the eye for problems...he asked if my ancestry was northern European and I said Dutch, northern France...etc...he said he knew it. When I asked how, he explained my eyes were what they called true blue in the field of optometry...jokingly I said...yeah, couldn't get any bluer. He then explained that most people with blue eyes have flecks of color when the doctor inspects the inner eye but people of northern European ancestry many times have no flecks....that is called true blue...and it indicates where your ancestors are from. Its not rare, but not a common to have no flecks...and being a bit on the eccentric side anyway, did wish it were rare instead of not common. HA! Anyway just a bit of trivia to share. I did have the notion of true blue eyes confirmed by another eye doctor and was told the same thing. Interesting. Barbara Whiteside http://bar-b-k.tripod.com THE MONTFORT FAMILY: A NARRATIVE Barbara Whiteside bobbeo60@yahoo.com --------------------------------- Get your own web address. Have a HUGE year through Yahoo! Small Business.

    03/20/2007 08:28:20
    1. Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] How I found I was Dutch...
    2. Donna Stark
    3. Barbara, do you have the orange Demarest set of books? I have the set and am putting it into a sale in August. If you know of anyone who wants the set I could bring it to the meeting and let someone there have it. OK, I have forgotten the date of the reunion and I decided to stay in Shelbyville instead of driving from Frankfort. need to call and make a reservation soon. Could you let me know. Donna ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara Whiteside" <bobbeo60@yahoo.com> To: "Dutch -" <dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 5:28 PM Subject: [DUTCH-COLONIES] How I found I was Dutch... > was a huge surprise. I was told at age ten by my dad that his mother's > family were in Kentucky VERY early, were French Huguenots and the last > name was Montfort. It took forever to dig through to find the Montforts > that were mine....with them joining the Shakers in 1805-1806 creating a > bit of a trial in finding them. I knew the oldest one, in my line that I > could find, was probably the son of Francis and Charity Banta Montfort Sr, > but could not prove it till I discovered the original Shaker journals at > the Filson Historical Society in Louisville, KY. Charity was the youngest > daughter of the marriage of Hendrick Banta 3rd and his first wife, Rachel > Brower. Charity's son Francis Montfort Jr, would marry the daughter of > her half brother, John Banta, son of the second marriage of Hendrick Banta > 3rd to Antie Demarest. Confused? I was for awhile. > > For those who are not familiar with the Shakers, they believed in > celibacy and splitting apart families that joined...putting them into > Shaker 'Families". For DAR my cousin and I had to prove through the > records and journals kept by the Shakers, that three small children were > indeed the children of Francis Montfort Jr and his wife/cousin, Polly > Banta Montfort. We were able to prove it to their satisfaction and that > line was entered into the rolls of Rev War soldiers serving from York > County, PA. If you are a descendant of Francis Montfort Sr, you are now > eligilble for membership in DAR through his line and I am happy to share > with anyone interested. > > Through the Montfort-Banta line, I have enough Dutch to give me the > appearance of a little old Dutch lady of the house...just don't look for > the cleaniless is next to Godliness in my own home....someone mentioned a > genetic trait for housekeeping...I don't have it either. I did, however, > visit Holland, MI and was told I must be Dutch, with my blondish/white > hair, fair skin, and very light blue eyes. > > My lines include, Banta, Montfort, Terhune, Riker, deTruiex, Demarest, > Seubering, Stryker, Brinckerhoff, Sohier, dePlanck, Fonda, Samuels, > Helling/Hendrickse, Bricker, Brower, etc, For good measure, my > Montfort/Banta line married into the family of Boones, Squire and Daniel, > through their eldest sister, Sarah Boone Wilcoxson. > > On the eyes, I learned something interesting at a visit to my eye doctor > a couple of years ago. As he was checking inside the eye for > problems...he asked if my ancestry was northern European and I said Dutch, > northern France...etc...he said he knew it. When I asked how, he > explained my eyes were what they called true blue in the field of > optometry...jokingly I said...yeah, couldn't get any bluer. He then > explained that most people with blue eyes have flecks of color when the > doctor inspects the inner eye but people of northern European ancestry > many times have no flecks....that is called true blue...and it indicates > where your ancestors are from. Its not rare, but not a common to have no > flecks...and being a bit on the eccentric side anyway, did wish it were > rare instead of not common. HA! > > Anyway just a bit of trivia to share. I did have the notion of true blue > eyes confirmed by another eye doctor and was told the same thing. > Interesting. > > Barbara Whiteside > http://bar-b-k.tripod.com THE MONTFORT FAMILY: A NARRATIVE > > > Barbara Whiteside > bobbeo60@yahoo.com > > > --------------------------------- > Get your own web address. > Have a HUGE year through Yahoo! Small Business. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >

    03/21/2007 04:06:51
    1. Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] How I found I was Dutch...
    2. Donna Stark
    3. Maybe this is where I got my coloring. When I was young i was almost an albino. My sisters were considered to have blonde hair but even in black/white pictures you can see my hair is white. Donna ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara Whiteside" <bobbeo60@yahoo.com> To: "Dutch -" <dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 5:28 PM Subject: [DUTCH-COLONIES] How I found I was Dutch... > was a huge surprise. I was told at age ten by my dad that his mother's > family were in Kentucky VERY early, were French Huguenots and the last > name was Montfort. It took forever to dig through to find the Montforts > that were mine....with them joining the Shakers in 1805-1806 creating a > bit of a trial in finding them. I knew the oldest one, in my line that I > could find, was probably the son of Francis and Charity Banta Montfort Sr, > but could not prove it till I discovered the original Shaker journals at > the Filson Historical Society in Louisville, KY. Charity was the youngest > daughter of the marriage of Hendrick Banta 3rd and his first wife, Rachel > Brower. Charity's son Francis Montfort Jr, would marry the daughter of > her half brother, John Banta, son of the second marriage of Hendrick Banta > 3rd to Antie Demarest. Confused? I was for awhile. > > For those who are not familiar with the Shakers, they believed in > celibacy and splitting apart families that joined...putting them into > Shaker 'Families". For DAR my cousin and I had to prove through the > records and journals kept by the Shakers, that three small children were > indeed the children of Francis Montfort Jr and his wife/cousin, Polly > Banta Montfort. We were able to prove it to their satisfaction and that > line was entered into the rolls of Rev War soldiers serving from York > County, PA. If you are a descendant of Francis Montfort Sr, you are now > eligilble for membership in DAR through his line and I am happy to share > with anyone interested. > > Through the Montfort-Banta line, I have enough Dutch to give me the > appearance of a little old Dutch lady of the house...just don't look for > the cleaniless is next to Godliness in my own home....someone mentioned a > genetic trait for housekeeping...I don't have it either. I did, however, > visit Holland, MI and was told I must be Dutch, with my blondish/white > hair, fair skin, and very light blue eyes. > > My lines include, Banta, Montfort, Terhune, Riker, deTruiex, Demarest, > Seubering, Stryker, Brinckerhoff, Sohier, dePlanck, Fonda, Samuels, > Helling/Hendrickse, Bricker, Brower, etc, For good measure, my > Montfort/Banta line married into the family of Boones, Squire and Daniel, > through their eldest sister, Sarah Boone Wilcoxson. > > On the eyes, I learned something interesting at a visit to my eye doctor > a couple of years ago. As he was checking inside the eye for > problems...he asked if my ancestry was northern European and I said Dutch, > northern France...etc...he said he knew it. When I asked how, he > explained my eyes were what they called true blue in the field of > optometry...jokingly I said...yeah, couldn't get any bluer. He then > explained that most people with blue eyes have flecks of color when the > doctor inspects the inner eye but people of northern European ancestry > many times have no flecks....that is called true blue...and it indicates > where your ancestors are from. Its not rare, but not a common to have no > flecks...and being a bit on the eccentric side anyway, did wish it were > rare instead of not common. HA! > > Anyway just a bit of trivia to share. I did have the notion of true blue > eyes confirmed by another eye doctor and was told the same thing. > Interesting. > > Barbara Whiteside > http://bar-b-k.tripod.com THE MONTFORT FAMILY: A NARRATIVE > > > Barbara Whiteside > bobbeo60@yahoo.com > > > --------------------------------- > Get your own web address. > Have a HUGE year through Yahoo! Small Business. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >

    03/21/2007 04:08:03
    1. Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] How I found I was Dutch...
    2. Donna Stark
    3. Do you have the Shaker Books. I have "The People Called Shakers". I am getting rid of many of my books. I plan to take this to the Dutch Cousins in Shelbyville in Sept. YOu have all the same names that I have . I also have the huge Boone Book that I am wanting to sell. I will take it to the Reunion in Sept. I also plan to make pictures of John Calvin and the Vories Bros. and take them. I need to check and see how many are going to be there and how many might want pictures. Donna ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara Whiteside" <bobbeo60@yahoo.com> To: "Dutch -" <dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 5:28 PM Subject: [DUTCH-COLONIES] How I found I was Dutch... > was a huge surprise. I was told at age ten by my dad that his mother's > family were in Kentucky VERY early, were French Huguenots and the last > name was Montfort. It took forever to dig through to find the Montforts > that were mine....with them joining the Shakers in 1805-1806 creating a > bit of a trial in finding them. I knew the oldest one, in my line that I > could find, was probably the son of Francis and Charity Banta Montfort Sr, > but could not prove it till I discovered the original Shaker journals at > the Filson Historical Society in Louisville, KY. Charity was the youngest > daughter of the marriage of Hendrick Banta 3rd and his first wife, Rachel > Brower. Charity's son Francis Montfort Jr, would marry the daughter of > her half brother, John Banta, son of the second marriage of Hendrick Banta > 3rd to Antie Demarest. Confused? I was for awhile. > > For those who are not familiar with the Shakers, they believed in > celibacy and splitting apart families that joined...putting them into > Shaker 'Families". For DAR my cousin and I had to prove through the > records and journals kept by the Shakers, that three small children were > indeed the children of Francis Montfort Jr and his wife/cousin, Polly > Banta Montfort. We were able to prove it to their satisfaction and that > line was entered into the rolls of Rev War soldiers serving from York > County, PA. If you are a descendant of Francis Montfort Sr, you are now > eligilble for membership in DAR through his line and I am happy to share > with anyone interested. > > Through the Montfort-Banta line, I have enough Dutch to give me the > appearance of a little old Dutch lady of the house...just don't look for > the cleaniless is next to Godliness in my own home....someone mentioned a > genetic trait for housekeeping...I don't have it either. I did, however, > visit Holland, MI and was told I must be Dutch, with my blondish/white > hair, fair skin, and very light blue eyes. > > My lines include, Banta, Montfort, Terhune, Riker, deTruiex, Demarest, > Seubering, Stryker, Brinckerhoff, Sohier, dePlanck, Fonda, Samuels, > Helling/Hendrickse, Bricker, Brower, etc, For good measure, my > Montfort/Banta line married into the family of Boones, Squire and Daniel, > through their eldest sister, Sarah Boone Wilcoxson. > > On the eyes, I learned something interesting at a visit to my eye doctor > a couple of years ago. As he was checking inside the eye for > problems...he asked if my ancestry was northern European and I said Dutch, > northern France...etc...he said he knew it. When I asked how, he > explained my eyes were what they called true blue in the field of > optometry...jokingly I said...yeah, couldn't get any bluer. He then > explained that most people with blue eyes have flecks of color when the > doctor inspects the inner eye but people of northern European ancestry > many times have no flecks....that is called true blue...and it indicates > where your ancestors are from. Its not rare, but not a common to have no > flecks...and being a bit on the eccentric side anyway, did wish it were > rare instead of not common. HA! > > Anyway just a bit of trivia to share. I did have the notion of true blue > eyes confirmed by another eye doctor and was told the same thing. > Interesting. > > Barbara Whiteside > http://bar-b-k.tripod.com THE MONTFORT FAMILY: A NARRATIVE > > > Barbara Whiteside > bobbeo60@yahoo.com > > > --------------------------------- > Get your own web address. > Have a HUGE year through Yahoo! Small Business. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >

    04/09/2007 06:35:37
    1. Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] How I found I was Dutch...
    2. Barbara Whiteside
    3. I do have the People Called Shakers and it is by a recognized authority on Shakers and quite interesting...which Boone book do you have? I might be interested in it if it is on my have to have list. I do want copies of the photos if you don't mind....am planning to go but have not sent in info yet..waiting on my cousin in VA to let me know her plans. Barb Donna Stark <donnaStarkKy@fewpb.net> wrote: Do you have the Shaker Books. I have "The People Called Shakers". I am getting rid of many of my books. I plan to take this to the Dutch Cousins in Shelbyville in Sept. YOu have all the same names that I have . I also have the huge Boone Book that I am wanting to sell. I will take it to the Reunion in Sept. I also plan to make pictures of John Calvin and the Vories Bros. and take them. I need to check and see how many are going to be there and how many might want pictures. Donna ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara Whiteside" To: "Dutch -" Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 5:28 PM Subject: [DUTCH-COLONIES] How I found I was Dutch... > was a huge surprise. I was told at age ten by my dad that his mother's > family were in Kentucky VERY early, were French Huguenots and the last > name was Montfort. It took forever to dig through to find the Montforts > that were mine....with them joining the Shakers in 1805-1806 creating a > bit of a trial in finding them. I knew the oldest one, in my line that I > could find, was probably the son of Francis and Charity Banta Montfort Sr, > but could not prove it till I discovered the original Shaker journals at > the Filson Historical Society in Louisville, KY. Charity was the youngest > daughter of the marriage of Hendrick Banta 3rd and his first wife, Rachel > Brower. Charity's son Francis Montfort Jr, would marry the daughter of > her half brother, John Banta, son of the second marriage of Hendrick Banta > 3rd to Antie Demarest. Confused? I was for awhile. > > For those who are not familiar with the Shakers, they believed in > celibacy and splitting apart families that joined...putting them into > Shaker 'Families". For DAR my cousin and I had to prove through the > records and journals kept by the Shakers, that three small children were > indeed the children of Francis Montfort Jr and his wife/cousin, Polly > Banta Montfort. We were able to prove it to their satisfaction and that > line was entered into the rolls of Rev War soldiers serving from York > County, PA. If you are a descendant of Francis Montfort Sr, you are now > eligilble for membership in DAR through his line and I am happy to share > with anyone interested. > > Through the Montfort-Banta line, I have enough Dutch to give me the > appearance of a little old Dutch lady of the house...just don't look for > the cleaniless is next to Godliness in my own home....someone mentioned a > genetic trait for housekeeping...I don't have it either. I did, however, > visit Holland, MI and was told I must be Dutch, with my blondish/white > hair, fair skin, and very light blue eyes. > > My lines include, Banta, Montfort, Terhune, Riker, deTruiex, Demarest, > Seubering, Stryker, Brinckerhoff, Sohier, dePlanck, Fonda, Samuels, > Helling/Hendrickse, Bricker, Brower, etc, For good measure, my > Montfort/Banta line married into the family of Boones, Squire and Daniel, > through their eldest sister, Sarah Boone Wilcoxson. > > On the eyes, I learned something interesting at a visit to my eye doctor > a couple of years ago. As he was checking inside the eye for > problems...he asked if my ancestry was northern European and I said Dutch, > northern France...etc...he said he knew it. When I asked how, he > explained my eyes were what they called true blue in the field of > optometry...jokingly I said...yeah, couldn't get any bluer. He then > explained that most people with blue eyes have flecks of color when the > doctor inspects the inner eye but people of northern European ancestry > many times have no flecks....that is called true blue...and it indicates > where your ancestors are from. Its not rare, but not a common to have no > flecks...and being a bit on the eccentric side anyway, did wish it were > rare instead of not common. HA! > > Anyway just a bit of trivia to share. I did have the notion of true blue > eyes confirmed by another eye doctor and was told the same thing. > Interesting. > > Barbara Whiteside > http://bar-b-k.tripod.com THE MONTFORT FAMILY: A NARRATIVE > > > Barbara Whiteside > bobbeo60@yahoo.com > > > --------------------------------- > Get your own web address. > Have a HUGE year through Yahoo! Small Business. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Barbara Whiteside bobbeo60@yahoo.com --------------------------------- Food fight? Enjoy some healthy debate in the Yahoo! Answers Food & Drink Q&A.

    04/09/2007 03:48:24