Thank you listers for answering my question. As usual, an answer raises more questions. Lambert Huybertsz Moll emigrated to New Amsterdam with four known children, Marretje, Ryyer, Hendrick and Huybert. Lambert arrived in New Amsterdam shortly before 29 July 1641 when he purchased a house and plantation on Long Island from Cornelis Jacobsen Stille. Register of Provincial Secretary 1638-1642. [NYHM:Dutch Vol.1:340] On 7 May 1646, the marriage banns of his daughter Marretje to Gerrit Hendricksz Blauvelt were recorded in the New Amsterdam DRCh. "Gerrit Hendrickszen, j.m. Van Deventer, en Marie Lamberts, j.d. Uyt N.Nederlt" Banns: 7 May 1646 [NYDC 1:14] Lambert Moll was not in this country early enough to have a daughter born here about 1628 so I thought this was an error in the church records and should read she was born in the Netherlands and not born in New Netherlands. Thanks to all your replies, I went back to the drawing board. Please note. He is a Van and she is an Uyt. Is Gerrit from [possibly born] Deventer? Is Marie from [the area of ]New Netherland? Is the marriage record correct? Regards, Ethel ========================= Original message 3-15-07 In the New Amsterdam Dutch Church marriage records, it usually states the bride and groom are either "Uyt" or "Van". "Van N.Yorke" Uyt N. N ederlt" "Van Aernhem in Gelderlt" "Uyt Noordt Holldt" "Uyt Engelt" etc. I checked my Dutch-English dictionary and Van means from, but Uyt is not listed in the dictionary. What does Uyt mean. Ethel ************************************** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.

Dear Ethel, In 2004 David M. Riker published a supplementary volume to his original 4-volume compendium, "Genealogical and Biographical Directory to Persons in New Netherland, 1613-1674". It is my belief that the additions and corrections in the 2004 Supplement were vetted by Henry Hoff. The revised listing for Lambert Huybertszen Mol says that he possibly came from Arnhem in Gelderland and that he arrived in New Amsterdam in 1626. This would be just two years after the first settlers arrived in "de Eeendracht" in the spring of 1624. Riker says that Lambert married about 1626 in New Netherland Tryn Pieters, widow of Cornelis Tijsoon van Woggelem. All 6 Mol children are listed as having been born in New Netherland: 1626 Reyer 1628 Marretje 1638 Huybert 1640 Hendrick 1642 Abraham 1648 Geertje These years are "approximate". In Riker's 1999 Directory, Lambert Huybertszen Mol's date of arrival indeed was given as 1641 befoire it was corrected. Dorothy > >Thank you listers for answering my question. As usual, an answer raises >more questions. > >Lambert Huybertsz Moll emigrated to New Amsterdam with four known children, >Marretje, Ryyer, Hendrick and Huybert. Lambert arrived in New Amsterdam >shortly before 29 July 1641 when he purchased a house and plantation on Long >Island from Cornelis Jacobsen Stille. Register of Provincial Secretary >1638-1642. [NYHM:Dutch Vol.1:340] > >On 7 May 1646, the marriage banns of his daughter Marretje to Gerrit >Hendricksz Blauvelt were recorded in the New Amsterdam DRCh. "Gerrit >Hendrickszen, j.m. Van Deventer, en Marie Lamberts, j.d. Uyt >N.Nederlt" Banns: 7 May >1646 [NYDC 1:14] Lambert Moll was not in this country early >enough to have >a daughter born here about 1628 so I thought this was an error in the >church records and should read she was born in the Netherlands and >not born in New >Netherlands. Thanks to all your replies, I went back to the drawing board. > >Please note. He is a Van and she is an Uyt. Is Gerrit from [possibly >born] Deventer? Is Marie from [the area of ]New Netherland? Is >the marriage >record correct? > >Regards, >Ethel > >========================= >Original message 3-15-07 >In the New Amsterdam Dutch Church marriage records, it usually states the >bride and groom are either "Uyt" or "Van". "Van N.Yorke" Uyt N. N >ederlt" >"Van Aernhem in Gelderlt" "Uyt Noordt Holldt" "Uyt Engelt" etc. > >I checked my Dutch-English dictionary and Van means from, but Uyt is not >listed in the dictionary. What does Uyt mean. > >Ethel > > > > > > > >************************************** AOL now offers free email to everyone. > Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi all, From: "Dorothy Koenig" <dkoenig@lmi.net> Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 5:10 PM Subject: [DUTCH-COLONIES] Marretje Lamberts "uyt Nieuw Nederlandt" > Dear Ethel, In 2004 David M. Riker published a supplementary volume > to his original 4-volume compendium, "Genealogical and Biographical > Directory to Persons in New Netherland, 1613-1674". It is my belief > that the additions and corrections in the 2004 Supplement were vetted > by Henry Hoff. > > The revised listing for Lambert Huybertszen Mol says that he possibly > came from Arnhem in Gelderland and that he arrived in New Amsterdam > in 1626. This would be just two years after the first settlers > arrived in "de Eeendracht" in the spring of 1624. Riker says that > Lambert married about 1626 in New Netherland Tryn Pieters, widow of > Cornelis Tijsoon van Woggelem. All 6 Mol children are listed as > having been born in New Netherland: My first reaction to Ethel's first message was that N. Nederl't probably should be just Nederl't -- since there are a few errors in these marr. records. But now with Dorothy's message I decided to look further. Here is the children's origin info as shown in their marriage records. Marr. date in ( ). > 1626 Reyer > 1628 Marretje (1646) Uyt N. Nederl't > 1638 Huybert (1662) Van Aernhem > 1640 Hendrick (1660) Van Amsterd. > 1642 Abraham > 1648 Geertje Since the Amsterdam bap. records are now online I decided to look for Hendrick here: http://gemeentearchief.amsterdam.nl/archieven/genealogie/doopregisters/zoek/index.nl.html Since I thought Lambert wasn't a very common name I searched for father with a forename of Lambert, son with a forename of Hendrick and years 1626 to 1640. I found him. Lambert Huibertsz and Trijn Pieters bap. son Hendrick on 5 July 1637 in the Oude Kerk in Amsterdam. So, now we might want to switch the order of Huybert and Hendrick: 1626 Reyer 1628 Marretje (1646) Uyt N. Nederl't 1637 Hendrick (1660) Van Amsterd. 1639 Huybert (1662) Van Aernhem 1642 Abraham 1648 Geertje Now that is quite a gap between Marretje and Hendrick. But we now have Hendrick's bap. and since Marretje marr. in 1646 she could not be born much later than 1628. I would bet Lambert had 2 wives. And that Trijn Pieters was the second. _If_ he was in NN in 1626, it appears he went back to The Netherlands. And then returned to NN about 1640 or 1641. Since Marretje was being married in NN, it seems strange to me for her origin to be stated as Uyt N. Nederl't. How can you be 'out of' the place you are now in? That seems a thin reed on which to hang the idea he was in NN in 1626-1628. Maybe you should next 'cherchez la femme', ie. look more into Tryn Pieters. Was she really the wid. of Cornelis Tijsoon? Can either of them be placed in NN in 1626? There were mighty few people known to be there then. Tijsoon looks to me like the kind of spelling I'd expect in The Netherlands. My gut feel is that in NN, he'd be more likely shown as Tyson. Of course, a search for a marriage between Lambert and Tryn in Amsterdam in the 1635 to 1636 timeframe would be a great idea, too. Unfortuntately, I don't think those are on-line. I looked for more children of Lambert in Amsterdam and didn't find any. I don't know if Aernham records are online or not. > These years are "approximate". > > In Riker's 1999 Directory, Lambert Huybertszen Mol's date of arrival > indeed was given as 1641 befoire it was corrected. Strange; CDROM version of the 1st ed. has 1626 as his arrival. Regards, Howard hswain@ix.netcom.com